Upgraded Kirov class: Project 11442 [Admiral Nakhimov] #2

Arrow wrote:Admiral Nahimov should be scrapped. Loading a huge amount of resources into this ship is a waste of resources.
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Podlodka77 wrote:If the cost of modernizing one such cruiser would amount to 3 or 4 project 22350 frigates, as some write, then the whole job pays off.
On the other hand, the first 4 frigates of project 22350 have less striking power than "Nakhimov". One "Nakhimov" alone against the first four frigates of project 22350; it has more UKSK, a far more versatile air defense system and a far greater range, one less helicopter, nuclear propulsion, an immeasurably higher sailing speed and radius. The only thing is that it is not known how many Paket-NK systems will be installed on the ship.

Perhaps it is better to have four smaller ships and not keep all eggs in one basket, but the more versatile air defense on the "Nakhimov" again gives that ship a better chance compared to the first 4 frigates of project 22350. And most importantly, the speed of construction of those frigates has not yet reached the desired level . Therefore, I would rather sacrifice "Marshal Ustinov" and "Varyag" than "Peter the Great". The potential for modernization is far greater on 1144 cruisers.
The cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov" will most likely not be operational until at least 2025, and when it finally becomes operational, it will probably serve for no less than 20 years and maybe until 2050.

As for the other four frigates, that is, from the 5th to the 8th, project 22350, with 24 missiles (per ship) in UKSK, they would surpass "Nakhimov" and its striking power. And if we are talking about 32 missiles per ship, then even three frigates would surpass "Nakhimov". However, there is no hint that the number of missiles has been increased for air defense, as well as whether close air defense will be strengthened with "Pantsir-M".
If Russia proves that it is able to deliver one frigate from 2025 and launch another one in the same year, then it is pointless to spend money on older ships. Although, withdrawing "Peter the Great", who has only been in service for 24 years, is a sin and idiocy. As I wrote, I would sacrifice both project 1164 cruisers first, which are non-nuclear, are older, and have far less potential for modernization.

Let these two bad boys (Pavel and Peter) keep sailing the seas…

mnztr wrote:i read that some cracks were found in the nuclear plant inspection and test. It kinda surprises me that this was only just done instead of much earlier in the project. Everything is repairable. It will be nice to see this ship powered up again.