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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:32 am

    JohninMK wrote:The Odessa fire is apparently still burning. This is a huge amount of what going up?

    Its all food.  Those secondary explosions must be the corn popping...  Razz

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    Post  Hole Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:56 am

    DISNEY!
    Only Rey can save us!  lol1

    Pedo groomers are best soldiers. 
    Best chance of victory for the US in a long time.
    Those woke warriors will start a conversation with the enemy about pronouns 
    and after a few seconds those fighters will shake their heads and turn around and
    leave.

     This is a huge amount of what going up?
    A fuel depot was hit there.
    Most smoke could be from the burning tanks.

    Unless you sign up to fight and die.
    Or you go to Russia.

    It all makes sens if you are asking me!
    He has a evil masterplan.
    Just look what he is doing to the people in Gaza!
    (Can´t be for long until western MSM will claim that he is responsible for that.)

    It is quite a clear example of Russia being capable of doing soft power when it needs and the surroundings allow that.
    Because evil Russians are bribing local politicians, according to some dude from a western paid
    "NGO" talking to a slut from german state TV. Which means both participants in the "conversation"
    were paid by the same people.  clown

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:24 am

    On the trucks ready to roll. A couple of months ago in a desert, today on a transporter in nearly snow, next week the heat of cremation. The life and death of a Bradley.

    Yesterday he was pressganged, today he's on a course, tomorrow a Bradly driver. The life of a conscript.

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:28 am

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:So today, Ukrainian men between 18 and 60 who reside abroad are effectively stateless persons unless they submit to mobilization.
    ....

    Good, does this mean we can finally start deporting those parasites? Hopefully Russian deserters as well soon?




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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:35 am

    This is quickly turning serious for the UA as the advance here has averaged around a Km a day for the last 10 days.

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    The dynamics of the front, as unimaginable as it would have been a short time ago, are accelerating. It is truly amazing how such a stronghold as Ocheretino is being assaulted so easily. Its fall seriously endangers any Ukrainian position south of the Novobakhmutivka-Sokil axis.

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    Where will the Russian army advance after taking Ocheretyne?

    🔺 Currently, there are ongoing operations to clear the town and inspect the defensive positions abandoned by the Ukrainian Armed Forces (UAF). It is likely that operations will continue in the near future.

    Why was Ocheretyne taken so quickly?

    One reason for the swift capture of Ocheretyne was the retreat of units from the 115th Motorized Infantry Brigade of the UAF. This unit was effectively abandoned as a human shield, after which local commanders decided to leave the town and retreat. This allowed units from the 30th Motorized Rifle Brigade from Samara (which also participated in the breakthrough at Avdiivka) and the 27th Motorized Rifle Brigade to quickly reach the center of Ocheretyne and begin clearing operations.

    Why is Ocheretyne so important?

    Once the town and its surroundings are cleared and secured, and the consolidation groups occupy the UAF strongholds in the northwestern part, the key heights and numerous buildings will allow for an ideal center for force concentration. During the battle for Artyomovsk, Chasiv Yar served a similar role for the UAF, but they were unable to leverage the advantageous conditions.

    How will Russian forces advance further?

    After taking Ocheretyne, it would be logical to continue along the tactical heights and move toward the UAF logistical hub of Novohrodivka-Selydove-Pokrovsk-Myrnohrad. Much of this will depend on the continued activity of operational-tactical aviation, the use of aerial bombs, artillery fire, and UAF attempts to retake the dominant heights. Additionally, the fate of the UAF garrison between Berdychi and Novopokrovske remains uncertain. After the advance toward Ocheretyne from the north and Netailovo from the south, these units are in a semi-encirclement and have little chance of achieving any success even at a tactical level. However, the command of the “Tavria” Operational-Strategic Grouping is in no hurry to withdraw them.


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    Set against the movements west of Donetsk

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:43 am

    And I thought that we had already got rid of all the old crap.

    Britain intends to announce a new package of military aid to Ukraine - Sky News

    The total package is $617 million and will include:
    ▪400 vehicles.
    ▪60 boats.
    ▪1600 strike and anti-aircraft missiles.
    ▪4 million units of ammunition.
    - RVvoenkor


    Couldn't resist this. Our PM really knows how to use a hammer



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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:45 am

    The delusion is strong Laughing Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:53 am

    The latest Ukrainian stamp Laughing Laughing

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:04 am

    JohninMK wrote:The delusion is strong Laughing Laughing



    once comedian always comedian lol1 lol1 lol1

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    Post  Arrow Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:31 am



    Something is brewing towards Kharkov?

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    Post  TMA1 Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:27 am

    Hmm I wonder if we and uk were holding off funding and Ukraine conscription and everything else as a delusional chip to throw in the ante against Russia's coming offensive. To try and e8ther dissuade the offensive or to blunt the negative military and psychological impact of the new offensive.
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    Post  kvs Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:44 am

    It takes at least six months to properly train conscripts. Scott Ritter talks about three months but I have not seen this being applied
    by Russia where the training period looks like a solid year judging by the mobilization and volunteer soldier training over the last year and half.

    Ukria can send random meat to the front, but it will be just going into the grinder. I do not see this being a card of any sort. Micron's
    intervention looks more like a card since Russia cannot engage NATzO forces the same way it can Ukrian ones. I know that the Russian
    government has announced that NATzO soldiers are legitimate targets, but I am not so sure that this will be followed up fully in practice.
    Targeting French irregulars in Ukria is a whole other ball game.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:47 pm

    kvs wrote:It takes at least six months to properly train conscripts.   Scott Ritter talks about three months but I have not seen this being applied
    by Russia where the training period looks like a solid year judging by the mobilization and volunteer soldier training over the last year and half.

    Ukria can send random meat to the front, but it will be just going into the grinder.  I do not see this being a card of any sort.   Micron's
    intervention looks more like a card since Russia cannot engage NATzO forces the same way it can Ukrian ones.    I know that the Russian
    government has announced that NATzO soldiers are legitimate targets, but I am not so sure that this will be followed up fully in practice.
    Targeting French irregulars in Ukria is a whole other ball game.


    Yeah, that's about right. Even more if you are throwing in the physically lame and mentally feeble. Also, I can't imagine how having criminals, not exactly known for their adherence to law and regulation, will help with training. Basically you are looking at a bunch of fragging and complete breakdown of military discipline in the ranks.

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    Post  sepheronx Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:10 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:So today, Ukrainian men between 18 and 60 who reside abroad are effectively stateless persons unless they submit to mobilization.
    ....

    Good, does this mean we can finally start deporting those parasites? Hopefully Russian deserters as well soon?





    I learned recently from some of your compatriots I deal with daily, that due to all these migrants from Ukraine and Russia, that what was 400 euros a month for rent is 800 euros now because of demand.  Crazy

    kvs wrote:It takes at least six months to properly train conscripts.   Scott Ritter talks about three months but I have not seen this being applied
    by Russia where the training period looks like a solid year judging by the mobilization and volunteer soldier training over the last year and half.

    Ukria can send random meat to the front, but it will be just going into the grinder.  I do not see this being a card of any sort.   Micron's
    intervention looks more like a card since Russia cannot engage NATzO forces the same way it can Ukrian ones.    I know that the Russian
    government has announced that NATzO soldiers are legitimate targets, but I am not so sure that this will be followed up fully in practice.
    Targeting French irregulars in Ukria is a whole other ball game.


    They totally could engage NATO forces directly in Ukraine simply because there is no NATO backing in Ukraine so those French troops have no real mandate or backing. They are sitting ducks. Engaging them can be done the same since they would be operating same equipment as Ukies. As well, Russia has already hit western forces in Ukraine that are guised as "mercenaries"

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:27 pm

    So, over 850,000 Ukrainian men of military age (18-60) currently reside in the EU, 650,000 of which fled in the past 2 years.

    In addition to that, Ukrainian prosecutors say there are over 100,000 individuals being investigated for deserting post-draft.

    The only place in the world where these Ukrainians are truly safe is Russia, as it stands. Zelensky and the west seem hellbent on actual genocide. The population pyramid looked bad before, now it's almost inverted.



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    Post  Hole Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:28 pm

    The life and death of a Bradley.
    The video shows roughly 15 to 20 vehicles.  Sleep

    How will Russian forces advance further?
    Just the way they want it. 

    1,600 precision weapons.
    Funny how some simple ATGM´s turn into "precision weapons" in western media.
    They are, but if this were a report from some other country they would never call them that way.

    The delusion is strong
    Cocaine.

    Something is brewing towards Kharkov?
    silent

    To try and e8ther dissuade the offensive or to blunt the negative military and psychological impact of the new offensive.
    FAB-3000 doesn´t care.

    So, over 850,000 Ukrainian men of military age (18-60) 
    Above 50 you belong to the Volkssturm category.

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:53 pm

    Regarding the "moving house" tank (or "testudo tank") of Russia

    https://www.facebook.com/K01Archive/videos/2200661756943979/

    The "moving house" Russian tank has been mocked by NAFO and Maidanists, they put a satirical music into the clips and compare the Russian tank with Orc armies. They also claimed that Russia have already exhausted all options so that they resort to the "moving house" design.

    However, the facts show that this Russian "moving house" has achieved impressive successes in the frontline. The Ukrainian soldiers were defeated by what they claimed as "farce" from Russia.

    It is clear that the "moving house" cover for Russian tank is meant to protect it against FPV and cluster ammo fired from 155mm cannon. The cluster ammuntions have long been a threat to tanks. Both Soviet and NATO tanks since 1980s developed methods to counter cluster ammo. Russians put ERA on the top of turret, BMP-3 put spaced armour on the top, and Germans increase the thickness of top armour and the hatch of the commander and gunner. Other vehicles have spiked armour.

    The "moving house" tank Russia deployed is effective against cluser ammunition, but the shortcomings is that it is very visible and has no camouflage ability.

    But at the moment in Ukraine, as Russian tanks mostly use predetermined roads to attack (so that they can avoid minefields) and Ukrainian side has always been cautious against Russian tank atttacks, the need for camouflage is no longer important.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:48 pm

    🎥 A new batch of US Abrams tanks has been spotted in Moscow

    In shops in the Russian capital, in the dessert section, among the usual cakes there is now a chocolate “Abrams Tank.” For just 759 rubles (less than $9), a cake can be bought in the shape of a destroyed US main battle tank.


    https://t.me/ForeignAgentIntel/10340

    Cool

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:55 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:So, over 850,000 Ukrainian men of military age (18-60) currently reside in the EU, 650,000 of which fled in the past 2 years.

    In addition to that, Ukrainian prosecutors say there are over 100,000 individuals being investigated for deserting post-draft.

    The only place in the world where these Ukrainians are truly safe is Russia, as it stands. Zelensky and the west seem hellbent on actual genocide. The population pyramid looked bad before, now it's almost inverted.


    Come thinking about it, the vast majority of these folks are natively Russophone, so they've already cleared the main hurdle for obtaining Russian citizenship.

    Should we except a surge in applications?

    How many are banderists? Potential security issues for Russia (apart from the millions of Ukrainians who already fled there, many banderists included). Don't assume that just because they don't want to die for Bandera they're not (in fact the more hardcore pro-Ukrainian you are the further you are from the front, it seems like, with Canada being a real hotspot).

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:26 pm

    Arrow wrote:

    Something is brewing towards Kharkov?

    No offensive

    Nothing to see here

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:26 pm

    kvs wrote:It takes at least six months to properly train conscripts.   Scott Ritter talks about three months but I have not seen this being applied
    by Russia where the training period looks like a solid year judging by the mobilization and volunteer soldier training over the last year and half.

    Ukria can send random meat to the front, but it will be just going into the grinder.  I do not see this being a card of any sort.   Micron's
    intervention looks more like a card since Russia cannot engage NATzO forces the same way it can Ukrian ones.    I know that the Russian
    government has announced that NATzO soldiers are legitimate targets, but I am not so sure that this will be followed up fully in practice.
    Targeting French irregulars in Ukria is a whole other ball game.


    Why not? What is the big deal with targeting NATO troops

    A fair game is a fair game

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:31 pm

    You can train a soldier in a shorter time, if you have a gut who already served.
    Just ... ekhm ... refurbish him.
    But ukrs are lack of those.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:09 pm

    Ukrainian FPV drone operators are terrorizing Ukrainian civilians now, apparently. Nasty material showing up.

    They blew up their own POWs on multiple occasions before, but this is a new (?) low.

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:52 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:So today, Ukrainian men between 18 and 60 who reside abroad are effectively stateless persons unless they submit to mobilization.
    ....

    Good, does this mean we can finally start deporting those parasites? Hopefully Russian deserters as well soon?


    I learned recently from some of your compatriots I deal with daily, that due to all these migrants from Ukraine and Russia, that what was 400 euros a month for rent is 800 euros now because of demand.  Crazy
    .....

    Correct

    That scum literally ruined people's lives

    And most of them are no better than stereotypical Gypsies, difference being that Gypsies these days rarely act like stereotype suggests while these vermin do 24/7





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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:57 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:....
    Come thinking about it, the vast majority of these folks are natively Russophone, so they've already cleared the main hurdle for obtaining Russian citizenship.

    Should we except a surge in applications?

    How many are banderists? Potential security issues for Russia (apart from the millions of Ukrainians who already fled there, many banderists included). Don't assume that just because they don't want to die for Bandera they're not (in fact the more hardcore pro-Ukrainian you are the further you are from the front, it seems like, with Canada being a real hotspot).

    All of them

    Better safe than sorry




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