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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:48 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Tripolskaya TPP has left the grid permanently if you are asking me ...

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    I find it very neighborly that Russia is helping Ukraine decommunize itself.  Actually, that would be a good way to select targets.  Any government buildings, military base, factory, or infrastructure built or rebuilt (the Nazis they want so desperately to join destroyed a lot of stuff in Ukraine) in Ukraine from 1918 to 1991 is a fair target.  If they want decommunization then decommunization they shall have.


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    Post  ALAMO Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:59 pm

    Leaving them with all-ukrainian heritage is a blessing.
    They will just shit behind the barn, as used to.
    And keep a bat in their hands, to scare off the wolves.
    As I have said, salo production needs no refrigerator, it can be kept in dwell.
    Only salt is needed, they can trade it for some chicks. Old way.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:18 pm

    Sunday bang

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    Post  Hole Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:59 pm

    hall be called Soyuzski and mars rover Lunokhodsky
    In that case it would be McSoyuz or McLunokhod.

    army with ammunition from warehouses in Germany 
    Who cares? That delivery will last a week or two.

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    Post  mnztr Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:58 am

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    ALAMO wrote:Tripolskaya TPP has left the grid permanently if you are asking me ...


    I find it very neighborly that Russia is helping Ukraine decommunize itself.  Actually, that would be a good way to select targets.  Any government buildings, military base, factory, or infrastructure built or rebuilt (the Nazis they want so desperately to join destroyed a lot of stuff in Ukraine) in Ukraine from 1918 to 1991 is a fair target.  If they decommunization then decommunization they shall have.

    Maybe the Russian plan is to prevent Urkaine from building more power plants so they are dependant on Russia for power from ZNPP. If they try and build something without Russias permssion it gets blown up. Its a good way to control and limit Ukraines development

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    Post  mnztr Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:48 am

    JohninMK wrote:Another big bomb hits a building complex.


    That is a good example of the term: OBLITERATED. Shocked

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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:28 am

    Russian tanks with extra fvp protection cage and ER module looks mor elike scfi from 90s

    Or the tank has been submerged on a coral reef and is covered in barnacles and sea life...

    Nothing.
    All the money stays in the US.

    Which is why it ultimately got passed... it took time to make sure the money went to enough different companies and families so that the government officials with power got their payoffs to OK this deal...

    The ones who refused likely got contracts to the companies that were going to build the wall between the US and Mexico to make something for the US military in compensation...

    Western freedom tape, not evil communist tape.

    Even after 100 years the commies can't copy western duct tape... it is magic... it won the cold war.

    The scale of Russkie running out of tanks can be a bit scary ...

    That episode they go to 3 companies upgrading and overhauling storage vehicles and vehicles damaged in use, and just one of them had enormous yards full of BMPs and BTRs for refurbishment or parts. One of the companies it seems is in a very new Russian region... they didn't name it...

    This might be the time that Russia starts to hit the transport links that this stuff will have to use more thoroughly.

    Yes, their transport network needs to be redesigned and remapped...

    Perhaps a missile into the trees just outside the diplomatic compound in the middle of the might send the right message, probably causing a panic exit of many staff who think they are untouchable.

    The US largely ignored the Israeli strike on the Iranian embassy in Syria so it seems to be OK... fair game.

    As for bombing the US embassy compound. Why bother? To create sympathy for these vermin? Let them huff and puff in impotent rage as
    their proxies fail.

    There are over 1,000 people there reportedly... they are de-facto running the country and the war...

    Hit them.

    No, its to rattle them. Bring home that they are not invulnerable. Send them down into the bunker, not sleeping in their comfy beds. The US had little regard for diplomatic niceties when they moved against Russian diplomats a few years ago in the US.

    The west keeps escalating without fear... soon the F-16s will arrive and western troops and ATACMS etc etc... how about a nice FU... level the building the entire game is running from... and hit it with 4 Kinzhals with follow up attacks every half hour...

    Red Green couldn't get that thing back up and running again with all the duct tape in the world. . . .

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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:49 pm

    Recently the Maidan and Western media broadcast the news of Russian wheeled convoy get stuck on the road to the frontline due to caltrops deployed by the Maidan army, and then the Maidan/Western media claim that Russia failed to manufacture Runflat tires.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:45 pm

    Looking good thumbsup (Copied to BMP thread)

    BMP-2M with combat module B05YA01 "Berezhok" in service with Pskov paratroopers.

    Armament;
    -ATGM “Kornet”, 4 missiles, exact range 5.5 km,
    -30-mm 2A42 gun with 500 rounds of ammunition.
    -Grenade launcher AG-17 automatic type (300 rounds of ammunition),
    7.62 mm coaxial machine gun PKTM 2000 rounds.
    (komdiv_75 TG)

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    Post  lyle6 Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:07 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Russian tanks with extra fvp protection cage and ER module looks mor elike scfi from 90s Smile
    IMO a more sensible adaptation than the turtle tank. The nakidka shroud conceals the silhouette of the vehicle making it extremely difficult to precisely tell where the tank's weakspots are from a distance while still maintaining the maneuverability and situational awareness of an unmodified tank. This is important, because the jammers only gradually degrade the FPV control signal until completely cutting it off at around 15-20m from the vehicle, so drone pilots are trained to 'hurl' their drones at speed to where the weakspots are to skill score a kill despite heavy jamming.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:41 pm

    What they need are FPV drone control signal homing artillery that can be fired high above the battlefield and fall down and home in on any FPV control device sending control signals to a drone.

    A few fail safes to protect friendly operators of course.

    Does not need to be big or expensive... 40-60mm calibre would be fine... rocket or grenade... especially if it can be carried by frontline troops where their EW systems can give them an idea of the direction to launch them...
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    Post  Hole Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:44 pm

    There are over 1,000 people there reportedly... they are de-facto running the country and the war...

    Hit them.
    I would prefer a mystical drone attack. Like the ones on the NPP that the IAEA never can trace back to their origin.  Wink

    (Copied to BMP thread)
    You already received a like for that.  Neutral

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    Post  mnztr Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:47 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    The US largely ignored the Israeli strike on the Iranian embassy in Syria so it seems to be OK... fair game.


    By ignore you mean ordered.... ? They also approved the Equadorian raid on the Mexican embassy, so green light to shove and Iskander up their a**. But they should do it to the UK, Poles or Baltics first. They have the best combo of big hat no cattle.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:58 pm

    A reminder of Ukraine's relative size.

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    Post  Hole Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:22 pm

    A reminder of Ukraine's relative size.
    Map is wrong.  No
    Banderaland is much smaller.  Wink

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:32 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Map is wrong.  No
    Banderaland is much smaller.  Wink

    How dare they suggest, that these pesky Russkie took a third of Czech, a quarter of Italy, a half of the Swiss, and three-fourths of Austria? Combined. While they are losing all the time?!?

    Marvel won't save the day here, we need a stronger stuff!
    DISNEY!

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    Post  kvs Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:50 pm

    Re: Disney

    Pedo groomers are best soldiers. That is why the US army is busy filling its ranks with all sorts of freaks and getting rid of all that hetero white male dead
    weight.



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    Post  ALAMO Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:53 pm

    That will work for sure!

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    Post  Arrow Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:57 pm

    A reminder of Ukraine's relative size. wrote:

    Ukraine is a huge country. Currently, Russia controls only 13% of Ukraine's territory. This shows that if they want to control and conquer about 40% of the territory, they need a huge army.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:59 pm

    The Odessa fire is apparently still burning. This is a huge amount of what going up?

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:02 am

    JohninMK wrote:The Odessa fire is apparently still burning. This is a huge amount of what going up?



    must be all that  crops to be shipped to halt the famine. Ukrainian food is rich in calories, making it essential for addressing the crisis.d  lol1 lol1 lol1

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:45 am

    JohninMK wrote:The Odessa fire is apparently still burning. This is a huge amount of what going up?


    The only way that could be connected to agriculture would be if it were ammonia nitrate, every few yeaes half of Texas City, Texas blows up and burns for days when industrial fertilizers explode at the docks. However, if this isn't ammonia nitrate its ammo.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:02 am

    Ukraine is a huge country. Currently, Russia controls only 13% of Ukraine's territory. This shows that if they want to control and conquer about 40% of the territory, they need a huge army.

    You can't make claims about performance while ignoring the tactics being applied... when the Orc army collapses there will be nothing to push back or conquer... Russian troops will likely move forward without resistance negotiating with various city and village leaders to take over the role of security and keeping the peace and then referendums can be organised.

    For all we know the EU and US officials in the country likely running everything will come under fire and run like little girls and the whole system could collapse overnight.

    As we saw most of the money from the US went to the US and the money from the EU will go to EU companies too to build up their military capacity they just wasted on Kiev.

    Huge shipments of weapons and fuel and ammo will likely be intercepted and destroyed by the Russians before it gets anywhere near the front line, but even if they manage to teleport it all there intact... who is going to be there to use it?

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:14 am

    So today, Ukrainian men between 18 and 60 who reside abroad are effectively stateless persons unless they submit to mobilization.

    All consular services are suspended, as is voting (well, not likely to happen anytime soon, elections have been cancelled for the forseeable future)... Unless you sign up to fight and die.

    Totally crazy.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:42 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:The Odessa fire is apparently still burning. This is a huge amount of what going up?


    must be all that  crops to be shipped to halt the famine. Ukrainian food is rich in calories, making it essential for addressing the crisis.d  lol1 lol1 lol1

    It's baby powder milk formula.
    Burned alike in Aleppo once.
    Pesky Russkie will starve the poor little ones.
    The ones found in Germany after being kidnapped by the evil Putler.
    It all makes sens if you are asking me!

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:So today, Ukrainian men between 18 and 60 who reside abroad are effectively stateless persons unless they submit to mobilization.

    All consular services are suspended, as is voting (well, not likely to happen anytime soon, elections have been cancelled for the forseeable future)... Unless you sign up to fight and die.

    Totally crazy.


    Monsanto needs all to die for a longer cash flow.

    GarryB wrote:
    You can't make claims about performance while ignoring the tactics being applied... when the Orc army collapses there will be nothing to push back or conquer... Russian troops will likely move forward without resistance negotiating with various city and village leaders to take over the role of security and keeping the peace and then referendums can be organised.

    Funny that you have mentioned that.
    I was watching an entry of ex-MOldovan president Dodon yesterday.
    While the Romanian put in charge of dismantling Moldovan statehood under umbrella of "joining the EU" is busy with further antagonizing the population, this is what is happening.
    Separate regions, sign commercial deals with the Russian Federation, making the euroasian economic zone wide open for specified, locally produced goods.
    Gaugazia already did.
    The others will eventually follow.
    It is quite a clear example of Russia being capable of doing soft power when it needs and the surroundings allow that.
    An alternative "government" established and sponsored from abroad can be used as a double blade axe - this time, it was in Moscow when Moldovan dissidents are meeting and discussing.
    Wonder how the west likes the own medicine.

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