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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:47 pm

    Unterscharfuehrer, another A-50 shot down? You never provided evidence to back up your butt buddy Joey Goebbels' claims for the first A-50. You have proof of this one that isn't "Ukraine claims to have?" I mean you have Gerasimov dead and then he shows up alive. Ukraine claiming to have completet destroyed an oilnrefinery and they hit one tank that was quickly repaired. Ukraine claimed to have destroyed a rocket factory and yet it was a fuel test. Ukraine hit 65 people, and they killed 5. Does being a gullible fucktard ever get old?

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:04 pm

    Another friendly fire incident or the US did it. Certainly not Ukraine.
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:07 pm

    https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1761098202495811689
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:12 pm

    https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1761089596534800878
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:15 pm

    https://t.me/fighter_bomber/15804

    Unfortunately we do have a confirmation but if it was an A50, is not known although FB says it was so, but we wait for more details

    They knew the missile was coming, tried to evade , but wasn't enough

    It's still being sorted if this is IFF or enemy shootdown

    In any case there are some changes which are seriously needing to be made

    Not a dooming factor, but a question of small amount of existing AWACS and losing it to FF or even enemy shows a real problem in this area

    If so, we can expect majo changes to VKS soon

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    Post  thegopnik Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:27 pm

    sigh....more aircrafts, now we are definitely going to have trolls at this rate that will think the F-16s will be game changing.
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    Post  dionis Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:40 pm

    What about that first A-50 FB claimed went down?

    Do we have obituaries for known A-50 pilots? Multiple pilots with date of death on the same date?

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:46 pm

    Former Russian nationalist Anatoli Karlin has quit and left Russia. He wrote a long and detailed blog post why he decided to do so. He denounced Putin (who he previously supported) and the whole Russian governing system which he now calls “putinism” as incompetent and a major failure. He also admitted wasting away a big part of his best years (2008-2022) supporting a losing team.

    I can very much relate to Karlin. I was a big Putin supporter until 2014 when he let that witch Merkel fool him with so called “Minsk agreements”. Even Putin himself now admits being betrayed and fooled.

    But the problem with him and whole putinism is that they never learn from their mistakes and keep repeating them. Almost as if they are programmed to think and act in just one easily pre-determined way.

    But still I was surprised to read about Karlin’s turn-around. He was so big on Russia and its future once.


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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:46 pm

    dionis wrote:What about that first A-50 FB claimed went down?

    Do we have obituaries for known A-50 pilots? Multiple pilots with date of death on the same date?

    No fraid not. We had an Il-76 AWACS that was hit, but nobody ever gave proof of an A-50. The crew of the Il 76 survived. We now have another AWACS hit. So I give Ukraine a forced landing and one shoot down.

    As for the F-16, they will go down just as lovely. Unterscharfuehrer Haushoffer will be strangely silent when they get knocked down

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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:50 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:Former Russian nationalist Anatoli Karlin has quit and left Russia. He wrote a long and detailed blog post why he decided to do so. He denounced Putin (who he previously supported) and the whole Russian governing system which he now calls “putinism” as incompetent and a major failure. He also admitted wasting away a big part of his best years (2008-2022) supporting a losing team.

    I can very much relate to Karlin. I was a big Putin supporter until 2014 when he let that witch Merkel fool him with so called “Minsk agreements”. Even Putin himself now admits being betrayed and fooled.

    But the problem with him and whole putinism is that they never learn from their mistakes and keep repeating them. Almost as if they are programmed to think and act in just one easily pre-determined way.

    But still I was surprised to read about Karlin’s turn-around. He was so big on Russia and its future once.



    Sounds like a funny, but my favorite funny man and Carlin is still George. Other people I find funny are Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, John Kirby, Jen Stoltenberg, Josef Borrell and even Zelensky and company, hell you and RTN Sieg Heil, and Ms low Def are absolutely hilarious too, but I can't say you're the funniest because you don't get that you're a joke.

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    Post  dionis Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:56 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    dionis wrote:What about that first A-50 FB claimed went down?

    Do we have obituaries for known A-50 pilots? Multiple pilots with date of death on the same date?

    No fraid not.  We had an Il-76 AWACS that was hit, but nobody ever gave proof of an A-50.  The crew of the Il 76 survived.  We now have another AWACS hit.  So I give Ukraine a forced landing and one shoot down.  

    As for the F-16, they will go down just as lovely.  Unterscharfuehrer Haushoffer will be strangely silent when they get knocked down

    Il-22? Smile

    Some freudian-like slip there given the relationship between the A-50 and Il-76 though Smile

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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:04 pm

    the A-50 downing looks real, there are also video's circulating of IL-76 wreckage including the tail.
    RIP to the crew, and i hope it becomes clear what happened so it can be prevented next time.

    I do not want to speculate here what happened.
    my thoughts are with their family's that will have to miss them forever.

    I really do not want to come over as unsensitive,
    But the gears of war move on, as this war is not done until the Nazi's are removed from Ukrainian soil.
    and today is Soldiers Day/Defenders of the Fatherland Day in Russia.

    the RF MOD made a good video to commemorate the date.

    https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/Rf's-Mod-Video-On-Russia's-Soldiers-Day-1:4

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:14 pm

    People jump to conclusions.

    https://t.me/namarshe/8344

    The plane that was downed is a civilian Il-76TD.

    Much like last A-50 claimed, this wasn't an A-50.

    With that said, there will need to be an inquiry into AD and radar systems setup and how they are operating.

    Edit: also I could be wrong. But remember last time regarding A-50 when it was Il-22. Lots of fake news.


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    Post  ALAMO Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:29 pm

    The plane is low.
    It might be DRG with MAPADS at the airfield approach.
    As easy as that.
    They are being decimated, and need publicity.
    Gimme gimme gimme gimme mooooony!

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:30 pm

    I could be wrong but people keep using fighterpilot as a source. He also claimed last plane was an a-50. The guy is a hack.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:35 pm

    sepheronx wrote:I could be wrong but people keep using fighterpilot as a source. He also claimed last plane was an a-50. The guy is a hack.

    "People" still have an issue with understanding the scale of this war.
    In Afghanistan at its peak, the Soviets involved some 120k personnel.

    Now we are talking about 4-5 the size.

    A fukin' Battlefield generation, that can't get that war costs lives.
    Those don't respawn.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:38 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:I could be wrong but people keep using fighterpilot as a source. He also claimed last plane was an a-50. The guy is a hack.

    "People" still have an issue with understanding the scale of this war.
    In Afghanistan at its peak, the Soviets involved some 120k personnel.

    Now we are talking about 4-5 the size.

    A fukin' Battlefield generation, that can't get that war costs lives.
    Those don't respawn.

    And all this because of incompetent Russian government and state officials

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    Post  franco Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:44 pm

    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation (for the period from February 17 to February 23, 2024)

    In the period from February 17 to February 23, 2024, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out 37 group strikes with precision weapons, including long-range air-based, as well as unmanned aerial vehicles, on objects of the military-industrial complex, military airfield infrastructure, arsenals and fuel bases.

    The locations of units of the armed forces of Ukraine, formations of nationalists and foreign mercenaries were also affected.

    All assigned objects are hit.

    In the Kupyansk direction, during the week, units of the "Western" grouping of troops actively improved the situation along the front edge and repelled 25 enemy counterattacks in the areas of the settlements of Sinkovka, Kharkiv region and Terny, Donetsk People's Republic.

    In addition, in the areas of the settlements of Chugunovka, Petropavlovsk, Kislovka of the Kharkiv region, Yampolovka, Torskoye of the Donetsk People's Republic, Stelmakhovka and Chervonaya Dibrova of the Luhansk People's Republic, the manpower and equipment of the 30th, 66th mechanized, 10th mountain assault, 25th airborne brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were defeated, as well as the 125th Air Defense Brigade.

    The enemy's losses amounted to over 390 soldiers, four tanks, 13 armored combat vehicles, 21 vehicles and 25 field artillery pieces.

    In the Donetsk direction, units of the "Southern" grouping of troops liberated the settlement of Pobeda, occupied more advantageous positions and defeated the manpower and equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Belogorovka, Grigorovka, Krasnoe, Kleshcheyevka, Kurdyumovka, Razdolovka, Novomikhailovka, Nevelskoye and Krasnogorovka of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    In the areas of the settlements of Georgievka, Leninskoye, Bogdanovka and Novgorodskoye, 12 counterattacks of the assault groups of the 79th airborne assault, 24th and 42nd mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were reflected.

    The enemy's losses amounted to more than 2,560 soldiers, 12 tanks, 31 armored combat vehicles, 58 vehicles, 13 field artillery guns and a Grad MLRS combat vehicle.

    In the Avdiivka direction, units of the Center group of forces liberated the city of Avdiivka in the Donetsk People's Republic and continued advancing westward.

    In cooperation with aviation and artillery, they defeated accumulations of manpower and equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Orlovka, Solovyovo, Semenovka, Tonenkoe, Yevgenovka and Mirolyubovka of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    39 counterattacks of the assault groups of the 71st Jaeger, 47th, 53rd mechanized, 59th infantry and 3rd assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Berdych, Lastochkino and Pervomaiske of the Donetsk People's Republic were reflected.

    During the week in this direction, the enemy lost over 2,900 soldiers killed and wounded, four tanks, 37 armored combat vehicles, 90 vehicles, eight field artillery guns and a MLRS Grad combat vehicle.

    In the South Donetsk direction, units of the Vostok group of forces improved the situation along the front edge and defeated units of the 72nd mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the 102nd, 108th, 127th, 128th air defense brigades in the areas of the settlements of Vodiane, Novodonetsky, Staromayorskoye, Urozhodnoye of the Donetsk People's Republic, and also Chervonoye, Priyutnoye and Lugovskoye of the Zaporozhye region.

    Four attacks by assault groups of the 58th Motorized Infantry Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Novodonetskoye and Shevchenko of the Donetsk People's Republic were repelled.

    The losses of the Armed Forces amounted to 1,195 soldiers, six tanks, six armored combat vehicles, 23 vehicles and 16 field artillery guns.

    In the Kherson direction, Russian troops took control of the Krynki settlement, took more advantageous positions and inflicted a comprehensive fire defeat on the manpower and equipment of the 28th, 65th, 118th mechanized brigades, 35th, 37th Marine brigades, 121st and 126th air defense brigades in in the districts of the settlements of Malaya Tokmachka, Verbovoye, Orekhov, Shcherbaki, Lugovoye, Zaporizhia region, Zolotaya Balka, Mikhaylovka, Ivanovka, Tyaginka and Zmeevka, Kherson region.

    In addition, three attacks of the 82nd mountain assault brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were repelled in the area of the settlement of Rabodino in the Zaporozhye region.

    The enemy's losses amounted to more than 460 soldiers, five tanks, six armored combat vehicles, 33 vehicles, six boats and 14 field artillery pieces.

    During the week, aviation and air defense equipment shot down: a MiG-29 fighter jet, a Mi-8 helicopter of the Ukrainian Air Force, seven Storm Shadow cruise missiles, a Patriot anti-aircraft guided missile, four S-200 anti-aircraft guided missiles converted to defeat ground targets, three HARM anti-radar missiles, six guided bombs JDAM and 42 HIMARS multiple rocket launchers, as well as 652 unmanned aerial vehicles.

    The missile forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, as a result of a group strike with high-precision weapons, hit: a launcher, a tractor, ammunition and a transport-loading vehicle of the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system manufactured by the United States.

    In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 572 aircraft, 267 helicopters, 13,223 unmanned aerial vehicles, 473 anti-aircraft missile systems, 15,188 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1,223 multiple rocket launchers, 8,145 field artillery and mortars, as well as 18,981 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12501744@egNews

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    Post  Hole Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:44 pm

    They should do more thorough medical for the next guy to avoid needless stress down the road
    Propably someone without a Cocaine addiction.

    when it was Il-22. 
    The Il-22 was damaged last year by a mini drone.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:48 pm

    Those all folks hungry for a price of the first M1 frosted Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  franco Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:49 pm

    Ukrainian Armed Forces total Equipment losses as per the Russian Ministry of Defense briefings for the first two years of the Special Military Operation:

    - 572 aircraft,
    - 267 helicopters,
    - 13,223 unmanned aerial vehicles,
    - 473 anti-aircraft missile systems,
    - 15,188 tanks and other armored combat vehicles,
    - 1,223 multiple rocket launchers,
    - 8,145 field artillery and mortars,
    - 18,981 units of special military vehicles

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    Post  nomadski Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:56 pm



    IFF works by radio signal long distance ? So signal can be picked up and used as homing signal by enemy missile ? Thought about this problem . Use short range acoustic IFF , enemy can not pick up , from long range . And can not home in from long range , to come close to find sound !

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:56 pm

    franco wrote:Ukrainian Armed Forces total Equipment losses as per the Russian Ministry of Defense briefings for the first two years of the Special Military Operation:

    - 572 aircraft,
    - 267 helicopters,
    - 13,223 unmanned aerial vehicles,
    - 473 anti-aircraft missile systems,
    - 15,188 tanks and other armored combat vehicles,
    - 1,223 multiple rocket launchers,
    - 8,145 field artillery and mortars,
    - 18,981 units of special military vehicles

    But zero losses for the NATO. Only eastern slavs are losing from this war.

    Nice return that Russia got from its "investment" in Ukraine from 1991 to 2014 subsidizing Ukrainian economy with hundreds of billions of dollars. And in return for this money Russia got... this.

    Moron Putin. How do you feel now about giving Russian railways for the use of NATO cargo to Afghanistan free of charge while NATO was still supporting Chechen separatism?
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:03 pm

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    🇷🇺 Update on the above. According to Na Marshe Z (@namarshe) - the plane was an Il-76TD. A Civilian variant of the Il-76 transport aircraft.

    🐻 If confirmed this means someone did mess up. Either Russian AD going wrong or the US backed Kiev regime thinking they would hit a big one and hitting civilians instead. This war has a lot of smoke and lies thrown at it, and we do our best to sift it all, analyze it, and bring you quality news. We will keep you updated.

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    Seems like civilians IL76 ?

    Either way we need to improve IFF urgently

    If it was an enemy shootdown than let's update flight traffic control to safer altitude and outside of range of enemy AD



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    Post  franco Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:39 pm

    The Russian Military have made other changes to their command structure within the Special Military Operations:

    - the Krasny Liman direction has disappeared this week and divided between the Kupyansk direction and the Donetsk direction.

    - the Donetsk direction has been divided into the Avdiivka direction and the Donetsk direction.

    - still attempting to determine division lines

    NOTE: last week estimated casualities of the Ukrainian forces was 7505

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