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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:11 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:
    There is a parallel with Star Wars.
    Russia is the rebel alliance with the Jedi knights fighting for light and good against the globalist order.
    The United States and NATO are the Empire managed from behind the scenes by the Jewish Sith.
    And many people in the world help the Russian rebels. The Palestinians, the Yemenis, the Afghans, the Iranians are peaceful and simple people like the Ewok and the Wookiees. People impossible to defeat by the Empire due to their tenacity

    Funny you wrote that...  I've been thinking of the Galactic Empire as the Americans for a number of years now.  Whenever I see a Star Destoyer, my subconscience inserts a Nimitz class CVN...

    It adds a new level of enjoyment to see Vaders flagship "Executor" falling into the Death Stars gravity well and crashing into the station after her anti-grav systems are disabled...   Twisted Evil

    Furthermore, Biden is similar to Palpatine.

    Putin is Luke Skywalker.

    Maybe Donald Trump is the ultimate representation of Darth Vader and wants to help Luke defeat the emperor.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:27 am

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:

    Furthermore, Biden is similar to Palpatine.

    Putin is Luke Skywalker.

    Maybe Donald Trump is the ultimate representation of Darth Vader and wants to help Luke defeat the emperor.


    Darth Biden is too stoopid to ascend to leadership of the Sith. He may be an adept of the Dark Side but he is more like a stooge, to be used to achieve a specific goal, and then thrown away, like Darth Maul or Darth Tyranus. His masters won't spare a thought for him once he has outlived his usefulness.

    The Servant

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    Post  thegopnik Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:52 am

    hope we get the zircons ready in service soon.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:19 am

    Ukraine is, and contrary to some beliefs the white house isn't telling them to strike civilians centers. You can argue we aren't stopping them but realistically we can only hold their leash so tight.

    You are publicly defending warcrimes... the deliberate targeting of civilians.... and at the same time accusing Russia of that same warcrime when Orc SAMs miss their intended targets and hit apartment buildings and kill civilians.

    You trained the dog... don't plead innocence when it starts murdering children in the neighbourhood... and what leash?

    The US goal here isn't kill Russia ln civis but weaken Russia by Corning it,

    Plenty of US and EU politicians have stated that money killing Russians is money well spent. They claim they are not losing any people so it is just costing them money to murder Russians.

    It is the same story in the Middle East... everything the opposition is doing is terrorism and war crimes and everything the US ally is doing is self defence.

    When they heard Navalny was dead they all declared Putin had killed him personally... they didn't even know how he died and what killed him... but I rather suspect they already knew...

    Overall, the US nuclear arsenal is becoming increasingly obsolete. Over 50 years old ICBM and 40 years old SSBN. Any longer and the US nuclear potential will decrease significantly. Currently, Russia is already a much modern nuclear power than the USA.

    Best not to test it though.

    Lukashenko said that Polish and American intelligence agencies are preparing a provocation against the civilian population of Poland, which Russia and Belarus will be accused of

    If the EU are stupid enough to be fooled into joining this war then let them join... there is no way western countries will accept the death toll the Ukrainians have been enduring all this time.

    In fact the Ukrainians probably wouldn't accept it either if they knew the truth...

    Resettle 100.000 Chechens into the area.

    Not a bad idea. Gift them land owned by western companies as a compensation for this conflict and the Chechen conflicts which western companies and countries encouraged for their own gain. Set some Chechens up with huge farms and businesses in the Ukraine... that would be a great idea...

    They do need help and are getting it from Iran.

    Don't get me wrong, they have legitmate reasons for doing what they are doing and I think Russia and other countries of the real free world should support them openly with words and deeds. I think Russia should make it a priority to help the Houthies develop and grow out of poverty and have even more dignity than they have now because the rest of the world does respect them... this is a western proxy war... they are only fighting the west... not the whole world as the west likes to portray things.

    The US carriers are too far for them to attack.

    This is an economic war, they don't need to sink US carriers... just keep sinking ships that are supporting Israel... like what they said.

    Not only do the Houthis have nothing to lose, they genuinely embrace war, and the territory of Yemen is even more difficult then Afghanistan. These are people who simply have no fear from any threat of war. They cannot be defeated or cowed.

    That might be true, but don't waste their lives with unattainable goals. The goals they have set are sensible and reasonable, which is why the west has to call them terrorists to justify their actions against them.

    The west stops ships all the time and often confiscates anything they find for their own purposes.

    The houthies can gain international support for being honest and fair because the west is anything but honest or fair.

    If they get a chance to sink a western ship then I agree they should try, but otherwise the game is stopping shipping to Israel to help the Palestinians.

    Don't let mission creep ruin something that can work.

    Look at US troops in Somalia... they arrived as escort for aide and ended up making it about control and power and left with their tail between their legs when they started taking on the local war lords.

    The Palestinians, the Yemenis, the Afghans, the Iranians are peaceful and simple people like the Ewok and the Wookiees. People impossible to defeat by the Empire due to their tenacity

    Except colonial white people have been murdering the simple people for the last 5 centuries... mostly with impunity... and to all intents and purposes Europe and the west live rather well compared with many other countries they have stolen from.

    This is of course changing because it is getting harder and harder to steal from other countries as they work out those shiny stones they find in the dirt are not worth 10,000 dollars, but in actual fact are worth millions of dollars... or that oil or Uranium you have is worth quite a lot to the west... which is why they murdered all your fellow countrymen who suggested asking for more money for those things.

    If you listen to George Lucas Star Wars was meant to be a kind of critique of US imperialism. Namely the Vietnam War.

    It is the culture... look at Star Trek... the Vulcans are the jews and the Klingons are the Russians... and ironically the west is the Borg... anti communist but far more of a collective than any other society... technology focused.

    If you observe the actions of the FSB with regard to the pilot traitor, it's clear hearts are hardening

    I suspect with the capture of Avdeevka they will have a lot more western equipment and weapons and ammo to supply to proxy forces around the world not happy with US occupation.

    If you listen to George Lucas Star Wars was meant to be a kind of critique of US imperialism. Namely the Vietnam War.

    If that was true what a waste of time because I would say no one in the US learned a thing from all that or even understood what it was meant to say.

    And now you support them and help bring them over to Poland.

    I suspect Alamo would have nothing to do with such animals... his government on the other hand not only enables but actively supports and probably gets a piece of the action.

    Back in 1990 the vast majority of the west did not know the difference between Ukrs and Russians. Now everyone
    and his dog is an "expert" on their distinctiveness.

    Plenty of people in the west use Soviet and Russian as interchangeable words meaning the same thing.

    A bit like calling Scots and Welsh and Northern Irish people English, or calling a Kiwi an Australian or a Canadian American.

    NATzO training after 2014 would not have transformed Ukrs into a new species.

    Gender education and GMO foods... how long does it take to become a born again christian?

    It seems I am not making myself clear, those posters who just click on the quote button below a post and reply without trimming the conversation will be the reason that quote button under every post will disappear shortly. You know the rules. I am giving plenty of warning.

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    Post  lyle6 Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:27 am


    mfw opting for civil service cleaning dirty rivers is a much better preparation for modern warfare than joining the ROTC. Razz

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:05 am

    What is the final proof that something was made in Murica, for Murican breed superhumans?

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    If there is a marking not to eat explosives on it ...

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:54 am

    65 Russian KIA in Donetsk in a HIMARS strike at a soldier training ground.

    Western weapons killing Russians in Russia with the West providing intelligence and training. Would not be surprised if western soldiers are directly doing the firing as well.

    This is what I meant for the need for Russia to hit the West directly. The West  is killing Russians in Russia.  So Russia needs to kill westerners in western countries. No more "asymmetrical responses" which almost always equal to no response at all.

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    Post  Arrow Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:59 am

    5 Russian KIA in Donetsk in a HIMARS strike at a soldier training ground. Western weapons killing Russians in Russia. wrote:

    Thanks to NATO's communications and reconnaissance, Ukraine can carry out such attacks very quickly. Russian reconnaissance cannot even be compared to the Western one.
    The Russian command still does not understand that something like this cannot be done within the range of Ukrainian artillery, several dozen kilometers from the front.

    The Russians did not capture Robotyne. They stepped back.
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    Post  Firebird Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:09 am

    So have the Houthis sink an American ship... or one of a US vassal. Assuming this is true...w hich very often it isn't.

    Also IF this is true, this may be real time intel being provided by the United Snakes of Satan. Something there was an agreement not to do previously.
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:12 am

    Firebird wrote:So have the Houthis sink an American ship... or one of a US vassal. Assuming this is true...w hich very often it isn't.

    Also IF this is true, this may be real time intel being provided by the United Snakes of Satan. Something there was an agreement not to do previously.
    Unfortunately it is true. Many pro-russian twitter accounts like Geroman and Ayden have reported this.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:21 am

    Firebird wrote:
    So have the Houthis sink an American ship... or one of a US vassal. Assuming this is true...w hich very often it isn't.


    Current Russian leadership will not even do that (properly arming proxies to attack the West). What a competent Russian leadership would do at minimum is to wipe out a western military base on a foreign soil (Syria, Iraq). And this is a minimum. Tens of thousands of Russians have been killed with western weapons and help IN RUSSIA.

    Firebird wrote:

    Also IF this is true, this may be real time intel being provided by the United Snakes of Satan. Something there was an agreement not to do previously.

    What agreement? Russia had an agreement with the West and believed it would be complied with?


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    Post  Arrow Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:30 am

    This is what I meant for the need for Russia to hit the West directly. The West is killing Russians in Russia. So Russia needs to kill westerners in western countries. No more "asymmetrical responses" which almost always equal to no response at all. wrote:

    Laughing Laughing Laughing Russia does not have the courage to shoot down US UAVs that are coordinating attacks on Crimea.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:39 am

    Arrow wrote:

    Laughing Laughing Laughing Russia does not have the courage to shoot down US UAVs that are coordinating attacks on Crimea.

    This is why I said Russian leadership is incompetent. Maybe even cowardly. Their extreme cautiousness is hurting rather than helping Russia.

    Do you think the West would be this much involved in the war if they truly considered that Russia was willing to respond symmetrically instead of "asymmetrically"?

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    Post  Belisarius Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:47 am

    Western weapons killing Russians in Russia with the West providing intelligence and training. Would not be surprised if western soldiers are directly doing the firing as well.

    This is what I meant for the need for Russia to hit the West directly. The West  is killing Russians in Russia.  So Russia needs to kill westerners in western countries. No more "asymmetrical responses" which almost always equal to no response at all.
    Did you forget the 60 French people killed in a hotel in Karkhov?
    Russian reconnaissance cannot even be compared to the Western one.
    Russian reconnaissance made it possible to find, kill and injure more than 500 soldiers in an Iskander attack on a village west of Avdiivka, that is more casualties than in all combined Himars attacks.
    The Russians did not capture Robotyne. They stepped back.
    They said the same nonsense in Avdiivka, Bakhmut...
    Unfortunately it is true. Many pro-russian twitter accounts like Geroman and Ayden have reported this.
    Geroman and Aydan also reported the A-50 shot down, which was fake. The whole scene looks more like a platoon of Ukrainians killed during the retreat from Avdiivka than an attack by Himars.

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    Post  lyle6 Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:50 am

    Russia's not doing anything to respond - yeah right. And real-time weapons grade track on surface vessels is just something the Yemenis magically get from Allah or something.  Razz

    Responding symmetrically is a low IQ move. Russia will escalate in ways your feeble capacities for revenge will never imagine.

    Besides you don't even give a flying **** about your own troops. When they die their deaths get swept under the rug as TBIs that develop into mortal cases of helicopter crashes in a few months. Total pawns. Why should Russia waste ammo on expendible targets when they can be focusing on the stuff you really hold dear - like I dunno, maintaining a high standard of living through control of vital middle eastern energy resources? The petrodollar?

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:56 am

    You are publicly defending warcrimes... the deliberate targeting of civilians.... and at the same time accusing Russia of that same warcrime when Orc SAMs miss their intended targets and hit apartment buildings and kill civilians.

    You trained the dog... don't plead innocence when it starts murdering children in the neighbourhood... and what leash?"

    Guilty by association tactics? Well alright we can use this logic.

    Let's look at syria.

    Before the war started Russia was supporting Assad, who has done not so nice things.

    Again referring to before the civil war. So by that logic, are the Russians supporting crimes against humanity?

    My point is simple to your silly logic. Yes we are arming Ukraine, but never had they got any order from us to attack civilians population centers.

    They have done that on their own accord, now did we condemn them for it?.

    No because we have a geopolitical goal for Ukraine and that takes precedent.

    Just like the Russians have tolerated all the shit the Chinese have done, pre civil war syria etc because their geopolitical goals out weigh going "stop doing this or we won't help you"

    Also no where did I defend what Ukraine did, I merely said "the didn't get orders from the white house to strike pure civilian targets"

    Your putting words in my mouth, and yes any infrastructure in Russia used in support of the war effort is 100000000000 percent a legitimate military target.

    Doesn't matter if civilians are working there or not, it's used to support your enemy in the war then it's fair game.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:43 pm

    Belisarius wrote:
    Russian reconnaissance made it possible to find, kill and injure more than 500 soldiers in an Iskander attack on a village west of Avdiivka, that is more casualties than in all combined Himars attacks.

    Do you feel a need to answer to those obvious troll accounts? dunno scratch
    Only in the last few days, Ukrs faced a multi-thousand number of death and wounded.
    Including direct & precision strikes targeting precise locations of assembled Ukr manpower.
    Some of the units were annihilated even before reaching the line of contact.
    Hospitals that were treating wounded in precise strikes were hit when only started to operate after evacuation.
    A whole echelons of manpower are being decimated en route.
    An entire area of Avdeevka and its surroundings is stuffed with dead bodies of Ukrowehrmacht like a bloody Thanksgiving turkey.
    Civilians who emerge from the cellars after months of siege are showing places where ukro bodies are stuck up to the roof.
    Wounded Ukro soldiers have flooded TG with farewell vids and messaged families because nobody cared to evacuate them.
    Western shitstream is crying a river about "a thousand dead left behind", which means we can quadruple that easily.
    Oh yeah, a claimed single strike that killed five Russkie is a powerful blow.
    A hell of an answer! respekt Laughing Laughing
    Fukin' dumb trolls Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:12 pm

    3500 marines wasted in krynky

    1800 ukro dead escaping Avdeyevka
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    Trolls are whining about a HIMARS hoarded for PR strikes

    But are careful to ignore advances everywhere lol

    Ahhh well, the dogs bark, the caravan moves on

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:29 pm

    There are already over 950 prisoners in Avdiivka from among the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the defense forces. The cleanup revealed another 58 soldiers in the basements.

    http://Avdeevka.Ru

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:31 pm

    Another bit of good news

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:35 pm

    Another aspect of Ukrainian corruption. Bet there won't be many members of the SBU in Ukraine after the end.

    Ukrainian security forces extort almost all companies that received orders for the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    As Ukrainian media write, businessmen are required to pay a monthly fee for the opportunity to work in peace.

    Moreover, if a businessman agrees, he immediately gets hooked.

    Money needs to be taken out of the business, that is, cashed out. These operations are closely monitored, so they can actually open a case against the business right away and the proceedings at any time.


    @ukr_leaks_eng

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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:39 pm

    Arrowless and unterschsrfuehrer Haushofffer, it must be exciting knowing the reich actually hit a military target near the front lines for a change.  Same for you sieg heil.  I was beginning to think that all those hundreds of billions of dollars we were wasting on Ukraine could only kill civilians and advance Ukraine's genocide in Donbass.  Still only 60 hit, and you only got 5 killed?  5 killed? That's sad, but on some summer nights Chicsgo loses 3 or 4 times that many. That's a pathetic pin prick compared to the thousands Ukraine lost this week.  Shit, hitting old rust buckets, downing an airplane every now and again, and striking civilians and hitting a bridge repeatedly and failing repeatedly to take it down?  Well shit, Slaw  and Baloney Suck on my Sausage!  I can't wait to see how many NATO body bags come home in the next Russian retaliation.  It won't be something as insignificant as five.  To the fallen, rest in peace and remember my three nazi trolls, like all the other NAFO failures, this strike doesn't do jackshit to change thebfact that Ukraine is losing.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:56 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:You are publicly defending warcrimes... the deliberate targeting of civilians.... and at the same time accusing Russia of that same warcrime when Orc SAMs miss their intended targets and hit apartment buildings and kill civilians.

    You trained the dog... don't plead innocence when it starts murdering children in the neighbourhood... and what leash?"

    Guilty by association tactics? Well alright we can use this logic.

    Let's look at syria.

    Before the war started Russia was supporting Assad, who has done not so nice things.

    Again referring to before the civil war. So by that logic, are the Russians supporting crimes against humanity?

    My point is simple to your silly logic. Yes we are arming Ukraine, but never had they got any order from us to attack civilians population centers.

    They have done that on their own accord, now did we condemn them for it?.

    No because we have a geopolitical goal for Ukraine and that takes precedent.

    Just like the Russians have tolerated all the shit the Chinese have done, pre civil war syria etc because their geopolitical goals out weigh going "stop doing this or we won't help you"

    Also no where did I defend what Ukraine did, I merely said "the didn't get orders from the white house to strike pure civilian targets"

    Your putting words in my mouth, and yes any infrastructure in Russia used in support of the war effort is 100000000000 percent a legitimate military target.

    Doesn't matter if civilians are working there or not, it's used to support your enemy in the war then it's fair game.

    The Chinese and the Syrians have done nothing wrong. Syrians suffered from ISIS terrorism sponsored by the United States and Israel.
    Actually Russians are too moral. If it were up to me, I would use poison gas against NATO troops and mercenaries.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:41 pm

    The US is facing mirror problems in both Ukraine and Gaza

    Mainly a lack of weapons for all the meat shields

    In Ukraine the problem is big, Ukraine has to choose where to defend and commit reserves

    Whereas Russia has emerged stronger and more united in willing to commit to the war

    For the US, one cannot say the same - they have 3 options

    1) withdraw from Ukraine - impossible as it would be seen as a defeat to Russia

    2) ramp up weapons production and shift to war economy - impossible, Russia has a head start and with high costs , the populace won't accept it for a war they don't understand

    That leaves option 3) continue to drip feed Ukraine out of US arsenals and prolong the inevitable

    As for Gaza, the problem is similar

    Typically the US deploys tripwire forces as a way to let adversaries know that if they kill US troops, the US will commit to greater retribution

    But in Gaza and against Iran, we see that the tripwire force has become more of a target than a deterrent

    The houthis and Iranian Proxies are absorbing whatever retribution the US dishes out, while conducting an open season on US FOBs

    The crux is, a tripwire force is supposed to deter strikes, not invite them,

    So the US also has limited options here

    1) leave the region - impossible as it would be a defeat to Iran

    2) ramp up involvement and escalate against Iran - same problem as option 2 in Ukraine, selling it to the American public who don't care about US casualties and are quite frankly used to hearing about US troops and Israelis killed in a region they don't know about and won't sacrifice anymore economic pain to support the interests of US politicians

    3) maintain the current posture of drip feeding Israel and maintaining support at the UN, although at a cost to its image and its hegemony - Brazil now is at the ICJ

    This compounds the limitations of American power and ability to fight multiple wars, while we don't even talk yet about a Taiwan war, which Americans need to horde weapons for as well

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