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    Post  Backman Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:19 am

    Is there any question at all that Odessa has to be taken ? How could there be ? Has Russia called up the necessary manpower to do something like this next year ? If they could take Mariupol while being short handed , i can't see why Odessa can't be taken the same way , with more man power to boot. 



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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:33 am

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    They gave them a reach-around love


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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:35 am

    Backman wrote:Is there any question at all that Odessa has to be taken ? How could there be ? Has Russia called up the necessary manpower to do something like this next year ? If they could take Mariupol while being short handed , i can't see why Odessa can't be taken the same way , with more man power to boot. 
    .....

    It's much easier to take something after you kill everyone first



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    Post  lancelot Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:43 am

    Backman wrote:Is there any question at all that Odessa has to be taken ? How could there be ? Has Russia called up the necessary manpower to do something like this next year ? If they could take Mariupol while being short handed , i can't see why Odessa can't be taken the same way , with more man power to boot.
    There is no comparison possible. Mariupol was surrounded and they had troops move in from both sides, Crimea and Donbass. How are you going to put troops into Odessa? Highly dangerous amphibious landing?

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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:49 am

    lancelot wrote:
    Backman wrote:Is there any question at all that Odessa has to be taken ? How could there be ? Has Russia called up the necessary manpower to do something like this next year ? If they could take Mariupol while being short handed , i can't see why Odessa can't be taken the same way , with more man power to boot.
    There is no comparison possible. Mariupol was surrounded and they had troops move in from both sides, Crimea and Donbass. How are you going to put troops into Odessa? Highly dangerous amphibious landing?
    You take Odessa from the North, just like in WW2/GPW.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:09 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:

    It's true, he passed away of natural reasons in 2006.

    Still, he is dead!
    Peremoga!

    JohninMK wrote:Another night of Russian gifts is on the way

    Not sure if you have noticed that, but there is no night without strikes. They are getting 2-3 dozen of missiles every single night, across the country.
    A number of registered FPV attacks doubled the August number in last week's report...

    Edit : there is one thing that boggles me scratch
    This Odessa hotel is a huge, multi story building.
    From what we see, it either got ONE missile, or the hits were accurate enough to hit the same spot in the frontal facade of the building.
    There is a huge hole there, with visible constructional damages inside like broken pillars, fallen ceilings etc.
    And no other breaches in the facade or roof.
    Some reports suggests it was strikes by Geranium/s, but the damage is way too devastating for a type. A whole building is ripped out.
    There had to be something really, really important there.
    As some reports suggest, the building was included in the grain deal as "operating office" for it.
    Some hints that under that coverage, the whole building was used as a navy HQ and hotel for advisors and other mercs.

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    Post  crod Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:15 am

    Backman wrote:

    And every congress retard and everyone in the US govt will believe it. Even when they are losing, these attacks make it feel like they are winning. Winning big.

    The hotel/HQ in Odessa isn't an adequate response. Kiev should be shaken with high profile attacks. Everyone that matters is sheltered from the war. Why would anyone that matters want to end this war when it gives them such a sense of pride and purpose with these attacks ?  

    All this commander has to do is appear in some hospital chatting with wounded or sending condolences to the dead cleaners etc. The story will be put to bed and uki pigs will look like idiots.
    EDIT: Or just turn up to a military command meeting like he just did….🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    Something I have notice these past few months in western media, there now appears to be disclaimers when quoting Ukrainian claims. Previously they only added those to Russian statements etc.
    Think the tide is well and truly turning and though there’s an awful long way to go to even remotely appear as neutral reporting, the mood has noticeably changed.

    Also we simply don’t know how successful the hotel attack was. It might well have killed scores and shredded scores more with glass. Who they are and of what significance, we simply cannot say. But it’s safe to say that it wasn’t targeted just for the craic of it. If the past few months is anything to go by, it was very much a targeted strike.


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    Post  SolidarityWithRussia Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:12 am

    The newly arrived Abrams tanks have a much higher heat signature than the German ones. So it is very likely they will be spotted and destroyed much quicker than the Leopards. Those people who are responsible for the usage of depleted uranium shells need to die asap.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:40 am

    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:The newly arrived Abrams tanks have a much higher heat signature than the German ones. So it is very likely they will be spotted and destroyed much quicker than the Leopards. Those people who are responsible for the usage of depleted uranium shells need to die asap.

    It will be the last concern.
    Ukro logistics won't be able to fuel them.
    They will parade them here and there, assisting like a fukin' strategic missiles. The same way they are playing Goofy with HIMARS.

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    Post  Hole Tue Sep 26, 2023 12:04 pm

    It's true, he passed away of natural reasons in 2006.
    In related news: Stalin died!!!  cry

    including a Transsiberian connection to NK. 
    I thought there is already a connection. There were plans to connect the southern and northern part of the Korean railway so that SK can move goods
    to Europe via Russia.

    They are getting 2-3 dozen of missiles every single night, across the country.
    All the "successful" Ukro attack in the last 6 months combined are the roughly equivalent of what Russia is doing in 2 or 3 days/nights. With much more success.

    There is a huge hole there, with visible constructional damages inside like broken pillars, fallen ceilings etc.
    Propably one or two Onyx missiles. 
    A ship would look even worse.  lol1

    Ukro logistics won't be able to fuel them.
    Re: fuel. In the last video from Mercouris he mentioned someone telling him that Russia cancelled the export of Diesel to build up reserves for the 
    coming offensive.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Sep 26, 2023 12:07 pm

    They did ban fuel export, but as a measure to take down the local prices. At least officially Laughing

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    Post  franco Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:17 pm


    MOSCOW, September 26 – RIA Novosti. The armed forces destroyed more than 17 thousand Ukrainian military personnel in September, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said at a board of the defense department.
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    Over the current month, over 17 thousand people, more than 2,700 pieces of weapons and military equipment have been destroyed,” the head of the Ministry of Defense said.
    The Ukrainian Armed Forces lost in battles in the first month of autumn:

    seven American Bradley infantry fighting vehicles;
    77 American M777 artillery systems;
    51 self-propelled artillery units from Germany , France, Poland and the United States;
    two German Leopard tanks and one English Challenger tank.

    As Shoigu reported in early September, at that time the Ukrainian army had lost more than 66 thousand people and 7,600 weapons since the start of the counteroffensive.

    The Minister of Defense also spoke about the advance of Russian troops in the Kupyansk direction.
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    “Thanks to the professionalism and courage of the personnel of the 25th and 138th motorized rifle brigades in the Kupyansk direction, the control zone near the settlements of Sinkovka and Petropavlovka has been significantly expanded,” Shoigu noted.
    The head of the Ministry of Defense added that the Ukrainian Armed Forces continue to suffer serious losses along the entire line of contact, despite the lack of significant results on the battlefield.

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    Post  kvs Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:20 pm

    Let Congress-tards believe what they want. They are not going to be save by Russia sending any sort of messages. Attacking government buildings in Kiev
    is being forced to play the game desired by NATzO/Kiev. It serves no military purpose and creates propaganda opportunities about Russia attacking innocent Kiev people
    and infrastructure.

    Russia is clearly doing the right thing by not being goaded and managed by NATzO. NATzO is thrashing around looking more like the retarded joke it is day after day.
    The top priority in the USA is now to save face. They have already failed, the retards.

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    Post  kvs Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:27 pm

    There is no doubt that Shoigu is referring to KIA. Mercouris spends practically every show quibbling about how it must be KIA+WIA. Mercouris
    also routinely denies that the Kiev regime is using human wave tactics. Kiev has been using them since last year. Send more Ukr meat
    than the local concentration of Russian forces and "win". Don't even bother to collect the dead from the battle field. Where does Mercouris
    think that current counter-offensive has been going? So Ukria sends tens of thousands of soldiers in desperate attempts to break through to
    the Sea of Azov but can't even reach the first Surovkin line and is only losing a few dozen KIA every day? It is losing an average of 700 men
    per day, a figure similar to 2022 which accounts for Kiev burning through its third army.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:42 pm

    Sokolov has been resurrected, it seems like. Russian black arts, man.

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    Post  Firebird Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:53 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Sokolov has been resurrected, it seems like.  Russian black arts, man.

    Expect the GATO press to run articles with the headline "Will evil Putin stoop any lower?
    CIA confirms wretched despot now involved in necromancy"

    🤣🤣🤣

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Sep 26, 2023 2:10 pm

    Necromancing? Uhh ... Laughing

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    Post  nomadski Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:29 pm

    @Backman

    Backman wrote " The hotel/HQ in Odessa isn't an adequate response. Kiev should be shaken with high profile attacks. Everyone that matters is sheltered from the war. Why would anyone that matters want to end this war when it gives them such a sense of pride and purpose with these attacks ? "

    I think a distinction needs to be made between combatants and non-combatants . Those engaged in offensive operations against Russia or Russian speaking populations , the extremists and Nazi supporters , deserve the most severe response . Regular troops in defensive positions , protecting Ukrainian speaking populations deserve a less immediate and less severe response . Troops that surrender , deserve a place of safety . Civilians engaged in supporting the war effort , need sanctions . Civilians that are not engaged in any support for military , should be left alone . Civilians fighting as Partisans against the extremists should be armed and supported .

    Was thinking about SEAD of Ukraine . I remember the USA action against Iraq 1991 . It started with SEAD . Tricking the enemy RADAR to turn on . Hitting with HARM . Destroying runways , communications etc . All this was done from long distance , by cruise missiles . Once enemy AD was depleted , then they used cheaper laser guided bombs , and Hellfire missiles . And lastly they could bomb with cheap dumb bombs from F18 , and even B52 carpet bombing !

    Russia still is using cruise missiles at long range to hit targets . And these are now mostly non- AD targets . Am I right in thinking that the SEAD phase against Ukraine did not proceed as well as those against Iraq ? And if not , why not ? Why are Russian bombers still using sparse and expensive cruise missiles , at great stand- off ranges ? Instead of carpet bombing the frontlines , with dumb bombs ?

    Is it because , despite many AD assets that have been destroyed , that Ukraine imported large number of NATO AD units ? Does anyone have any reliable info on number of imported AD units into Ukraine ? Compared to number destroyed ? How many old Soviet units are left ?

    If the reason is vegetation cover of farm buildings hiding equipment . Then at least warn farmers to keep heavy Tractor outside buildings with no cover . Any tracks of heavy equipment outside Barns , should be taken out !


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    Post  zare Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:37 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Backman wrote:Is there any question at all that Odessa has to be taken ? How could there be ? Has Russia called up the necessary manpower to do something like this next year ? If they could take Mariupol while being short handed , i can't see why Odessa can't be taken the same way , with more man power to boot. 
    .....

    It's much easier to take something after you kill everyone first


    Strong Srebrenica '95 vibes

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:03 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Sokolov has been resurrected, it seems like.  Russian black arts, man.

    By video link.

    What the media hides.
    @narrative_hole
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    4h
    ⚡🇷🇺🇺🇦  The Commander of the Black Sea Fleet, killed by Ukrainian propaganda a few days ago, casually attended the Defense Ministry meeting today 😂

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    Update on the reported death of Viktor Solokov, the commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet

    Yesterday, Ukrainian Special Operations Forces reported him dead as a result of a Storm Shadow missile strike last week that destroyed the Russian Black Sea Fleet Headquarters in Sevastopol

    Today, a photo has been published by Russia of Solokov in a video meeting, indicating that he may still be alive

    In response, Ukrainian Forces published this message:

    Clarification of information regarding the death of the commander of the Russian Federation.

    As is known, 34 officers were killed due to a missile attack on the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation. Available sources claim that among the dead was the commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet. Many still have not been identified due to the disparity of body fragments.

    Since the Russians were urgently forced to publish a response with an apparently alive Sokolov, our units are clarifying the information. This happens within the procedure for collecting data on the results of the operation.


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    Post  Arrow Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:49 pm

    New Iranian Shahed with jet propulsion.
    https://vk.com/video-206639135_456275650?list=c2cf7217d987f21e74


    Medvedev: more than 325 thousand people have signed a contract with the RF Armed Forces since January 2023
    Work to replenish the Russian Armed Forces continues to be carried out, noted the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Sep 26, 2023 5:02 pm

    Hole wrote:
    In related news: Stalin died!!!  cry

    Not Iosif Vissarionovich, who will strike terror in the hearts of fascists now?


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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Sep 26, 2023 5:20 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Sokolov has been resurrected, it seems like.  Russian black arts, man.

    North Korea has been secretly supplied the resurrection and cloning technology to Russia then. What a Face

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 26, 2023 5:26 pm

    Synchronised in stereo Very Happy

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