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George1 wrote:Probably one of the most ambitious engineering projects in Russia’s history: A 19 km (12 miles) road-and-rail bridge to Crimea. Simply known as the Crimean Bridge, or the Kerch Strait Bridge, so far it’s right on schedule and on July 17 the Russian Ministry of Transport announced the massive thoroughfare was 75 percent complete.
https://www.rbth.com/multimedia/2017/07/25/the-project-of-the-century-10-facts-about-europes-longest-bridge_810330
Two lanes on each direction, with no emergency lane, looks a bit tight. Dare I say short-sighted.On the other hand having that rail bridge is very smart.
KiloGolf wrote:.........
Two lanes on each direction, with no emergency lane, looks a bit tight. Dare I say short-sighted.
On the other hand having that rail bridge is very smart.
PapaDragon wrote:Bridge railway arc is being moved into position, updates and photos here:
https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/97254/
franco wrote:PapaDragon wrote:Bridge railway arc is being moved into position, updates and photos here:
https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/97254/
Might have missed it but when does it get lifted into place?
JohninMK wrote:Interesting point of view
When it comes to civic values, Crimea still needs a whole lot of de-Ukrainianization.
There's a lot of half-hearted patriotism in Crimea. The vast majority of Crimeans identify as Russian, profess patriotism in relation to Russia, and the Crimean population overwhelmingly supported the 2014 re-unification with Russia.
But what are they actually doing about it? Admittedly, for the first 2 years after the unification, they were doing something about it - you could see people making a conscious effort to be better citizens. There was less loony driving, there were less nutjobs at street-level. There was less sleaze. There was less bribery going on - I know that for a fact.
But eventually, after all the civic euphoria of the re-unification wears off, people start to relax, and start behaving as if they're still living under Ukrainian jurisdiction - kickbacks, idiot-culture, driving like dickheads, "protecting" their friends, etc, etc....
They behave like this while ardently professing their patriotism for Russia. Actions speak louder than words.
In continental Russia, the process of recovering and re-building the country's civic values and sense of discipline after the catastrophe of the 1990's began 20 years ago.
In Crimea, that process of recovery began 3 years ago. It's going to take a generation. The Crimeans have got a lot of growing up to do. Having lived under Ukrainian jurisdiction for so long, far more than most Russians, large swathes of the Crimean population are still psychologically trapped in the 1990's. It'll take a generation.
And I know that it's going to annoy some Crimeans to hear that, but there it is.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/09/irish-crimean-crimea-in-dire-need-of-de.html
JohninMK wrote:Interesting point of view
When it comes to civic values, Crimea still needs a whole lot of de-Ukrainianization.
There's a lot of half-hearted patriotism in Crimea. The vast majority of Crimeans identify as Russian, profess patriotism in relation to Russia, and the Crimean population overwhelmingly supported the 2014 re-unification with Russia.
But what are they actually doing about it? Admittedly, for the first 2 years after the unification, they were doing something about it - you could see people making a conscious effort to be better citizens. There was less loony driving, there were less nutjobs at street-level. There was less sleaze. There was less bribery going on - I know that for a fact.
But eventually, after all the civic euphoria of the re-unification wears off, people start to relax, and start behaving as if they're still living under Ukrainian jurisdiction - kickbacks, idiot-culture, driving like dickheads, "protecting" their friends, etc, etc....
They behave like this while ardently professing their patriotism for Russia. Actions speak louder than words.
In continental Russia, the process of recovering and re-building the country's civic values and sense of discipline after the catastrophe of the 1990's began 20 years ago.
In Crimea, that process of recovery began 3 years ago. It's going to take a generation. The Crimeans have got a lot of growing up to do. Having lived under Ukrainian jurisdiction for so long, far more than most Russians, large swathes of the Crimean population are still psychologically trapped in the 1990's. It'll take a generation.
And I know that it's going to annoy some Crimeans to hear that, but there it is.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/09/irish-crimean-crimea-in-dire-need-of-de.html
kvs wrote:Not trying to be racist, but you can see a certain cultural gradient from north to south Europe. Crimea reflects
the "Mediterranean" style with lots of petty corruption and easy going attitude to life. Not the sober or dour
style of the north where everything is "squeaky clean". So Crimea will never become something it never was
and the current progress is substantial.
What is lacking is an objective metric of "corruption" and other social issues. Propaganda BS like the TI "perceptions index"
and other such rubbish hide reality. There is no place where corruption is totally zero just as there is no place where there
is zero criminality. It's human reality. NATO propaganda tries to exaggerate relatively minor differences in corruption level
for imperial advantage. This BS percolates even inside Russia and skews perceptions.
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