Crimea and ex-Ukrainian/Black Sea regions integration into RF

ATLASCUB wrote:

Hole wrote:To overreact every time (like murica) is not a show of strength but of weakness. Countries that do that (only western ones) have to pretend that they are strong, mostly to keep the own population at bay, but what we´ve seen in the last 20 years (Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen, Syria…) showed the whole world their real strength.

But America doesn't overreact all the time. Case in point dragging its feet on sanctions for Turkey right now. They know, for the most part, and they can be wrong sometimes, when they need to dance, and when they need to show strength and force. You don't become a global empire by being stupid, you become so by your main competitors being abject failure in their ability to out compete you - namely, the Russians, and Chinese (so far).

So that's a nice talking point you got there... except it's rubbish. All the countries you mentioned are fractured shit holes, sent back to the stone age as a result of Western intervention. They're an example of what happens when you cross them, or merely happen to be in the wrong camp. Every other consideration about the failure of some political objectives etc is minor bickering and feel-good about stories for the losers. It's not the Americans who lose hundred of thousands, or millions of its people, it's industry, infrastructure, economy, military, stability, facing the hardships of war, and complete generations lost etc. It's the target countries. There is nothing to feel good about. You can ask them if America is weak.

One thing is to claim that the exercise of power in such manner is wrong, or not the right approach (and that is a perfect opinion to have), another thing entirely is to correlate that to weakness trying to sound like Chinese sage Sun Tzu.

The very same Chinese btw who are finding out now that they need real allies (and in this regard they're outgunned). The very same who, not long ago were making back handed comments of Russia (in diplomatic circles with regards to U.S power plays against Russia). Now they're dousing themselves with bitter pills as the Americans/Brits turn Hong Kong into a mini-rebellion, and call bluff and sign military deals to buff up Taiwan. For a nation who puts such a high regard on not being embarrassed, they're getting a taste of reality.

The talking points sound and look great on paper. Reality is another thing.

The greatest weapon these old nations have against the Anglo empire will continue to be the endemic corruption within the empire - self greed and rot - which the Americans can't simply flip a switch to solve as they continually find out. Definitely not cause they're outsmarted on the global stage - when the balance is due, it's the other way around.

ATLASCUB wrote:Now they're dousing themselves with bitter pills as the Americans/Brits turn Hong Kong into a mini-rebellion, and call bluff and sign military deals to buff up Taiwan. For a nation who puts such a high regard on not being embarrassed, they're getting a taste of reality.

higurashihougi wrote:Yes, the US imperialists are still strong, but the important things is more and more people know that they are evil and strong. That is the key for the downfall of Western imperialists.

People know that they are evil, which means there is incentive for struggle against them. People know that they are still strong, which means there is incentive for a careful and logical plan against them rather than unplanned activities.

Imperialists can devastate their target countries, but that will be the proof for their true nature. Imperialists are creating conditions for their downfall by increasing the number of people who know their true nature and who acknowledge the need to eliminate them.

A realistic viewpoint is necessary indeed, and the acknowledgment of evil nature of imperialist and the the acknowledgment of the need to fight against them rather than accept their domination is also realistic.

ATLASCUB wrote:Now they're dousing themselves with bitter pills as the Americans/Brits turn Hong Kong into a mini-rebellion, and call bluff and sign military deals to buff up Taiwan. For a nation who puts such a high regard on not being embarrassed, they're getting a taste of reality.

Western medias always portray Hong Kong affairs as "revolution" of the whole population. But Western medias never show the images of massive pro-Beijing counter protests.

JohninMK wrote:As they say "possession is 9/10th of the Law". Some interesting stuff in the article.

A «Russian Lake»: the Nine Aspects of the Current Situation in the Black Sea by Andrii KLYMENKO,

associate fellow, Crimea Department, Maidan of Foreign Affairs, Editor-in-Chief of the BSNews.

The situation in the Black Sea is changing literally before our eyes. Its ongoing transformation into a de facto Russian lake is a direct consequence of the occupation and subsequent militarization of Crimea. The current Russian agenda among other, includes further occupation of the Ukrainian offshore shelf and its entire exclusive maritime economic zone, squeezing NATO out of the Black Sea and getting Turkey and Bulgaria hooked on the Russian gas needle.

Events are unfolding at such a speed that traditional foreign policy — both Ukraine’s and its Black Sea neighbors’, as well as NATO’s and the EU’s, not to mention that of the the UN — simply cannot keep up and requires an urgent careful and creative re-thinking.

The analysis below is aimed at anyone who cares about the region. It is important to understand that the fact that the summary of the NATO states borders accounts for the largest maritime border in the Black Sea is not reassuring by itself, and in fact, has every chance now of turning from a policy factor into merely an arithmetic one.

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https://www.blackseanews.net/en/read/153503#.XUgLC3j5pUw.twitter

kvs wrote:Pathetic Google Earth hasn't updated the Crimea images since 2018.   It updates all sorts of irrelevant shit-hole locations practically
to real time.   Can't have the construction of the Kerch Strait bridge and other real points of interest be disseminated to the sheeple,
can we now....

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GarryB wrote:Sorry to be Mr Picky KVS, but you keep making the same spelling mistake... perhaps you have a faulty keyboard...

here is an example:

"NATO paid fifth column"

It seems you used an f when you clearly needed an l... like this:

"NATO paid filth column"

Otherwise I agree with what you are saying...