Crimea and ex-Ukrainian/Black Sea regions integration into RF

medo wrote:As I know, Crimea have enough water for farming autochtone traditional crops. Water from canal was mostly used for rice producing, which need a lot of water in some period of time. Crimea now doesn't produce rice and transitioning to more traditional crops as well as to fruit plantages and vineyards will reduce their need for water from canal and their own water sources will be enough.

kvs wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

medo wrote:As I know, Crimea have enough water for farming autochtone traditional crops. Water from canal was mostly used for rice producing, which need a lot of water in some period of time. Crimea now doesn't produce rice and transitioning to more traditional crops as well as to fruit plantages and vineyards will reduce their need for water from canal and their own water sources will be enough.

I am quite surprised that they were bothering with rice in the first place.

Just buy that stuff from Asia (they are drowning in it already) and focus on crops with actual profit margin.

Yeah, rice plantations in semi-arid Crimea are rather idiotic.   Keep the production to the wet tropics where it belongs.

kvs wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:https://ria.ru/economy/20170710/1498213204.html

So as a note, Siemens didn't send those turbines. Partially made ones from unknown source were transferred to Russia, upgraded and parts added by Russian companies, then placed in Crimea.

Thank you for the link.

Poor little Siemens is safe and secure from the mighty sanctions.

This forum board underscores how little intellectual credit Russians are given for coming up with innovative solutions.    This
sort of underestimation has f*cked up all the previous invaders.

miketheterrible wrote:

kvs wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:https://ria.ru/economy/20170710/1498213204.html

So as a note, Siemens didn't send those turbines. Partially made ones from unknown source were transferred to Russia, upgraded and parts added by Russian companies, then placed in Crimea.

Thank you for the link.

Poor little Siemens is safe and secure from the mighty sanctions.

This forum board underscores how little intellectual credit Russians are given for coming up with innovative solutions.    This
sort of underestimation has f*cked up all the previous invaders.

Siemens are claiming they will sue but they will have to prove it first.  They are simply going by media sensationalism of course.  I hope they do so Russia counter sues for not getting the product they paid for.

marat wrote:That is great thank you Auslander.

I now that i am borring but do you have any info regarding new solar plants in Crimea, iirc several of those plants were planed as well.

And what is situation regarding watter supply? As far as i know there is enought watter for drinkig and fore household usage but is there any project to provide supply for farming. I think that watter will be hardes think to make Crima self-sufficient.

medo wrote:

Turbines in Crimea.

The CEO of German technology major Siemens Joe Kaeser is considering pulling out of projects and joint ventures in Russia, Russian media reported on July 14 citing a report by German magazine Wirtschafts Woche.

Meanwhile the general manager of another Siemens partner in Russia Power Machines (Silovie Mashini) Roman Filippov was detained and questioned by Russian law enforcement authorities on July 13, as reported by Interfax.

Unnamed sources claimed Filippov was detained under treason accusations, which was also confirmed by sources of the RBC business portal. At the same time it remained unclear how the accusations are related to the reports of Siemens turbines finding their way into Crimea.

marat wrote:http://www.intellinews.com/siemens-considers-quitting-russia-exec-of-partner-power-machines-questioned-for-treason-125408/

The CEO of German technology major Siemens Joe Kaeser is considering pulling out of projects and joint ventures in Russia, Russian media reported on July 14 citing a report by German magazine Wirtschafts Woche.

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kvs wrote:

marat wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

kvs wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:https://ria.ru/economy/20170710/1498213204.html

So as a note, Siemens didn't send those turbines. Partially made ones from unknown source were transferred to Russia, upgraded and parts added by Russian companies, then placed in Crimea.

Thank you for the link.

Poor little Siemens is safe and secure from the mighty sanctions.

This forum board underscores how little intellectual credit Russians are given for coming up with innovative solutions.    This
sort of underestimation has f*cked up all the previous invaders.

Siemens are claiming they will sue but they will have to prove it first.  They are simply going by media sensationalism of course.  I hope they do so Russia counter sues for not getting the product they paid for.

I think that they will have quite easy job to prove that their turbines are delivered to Crimea. Sanctions are vis majeur so you cannot isse counter claim.

BS.  Siemens cannot exert control over production in Russia.   Any technology it transferred to Russian companies in the past does not enable
some sanctions imposed later to impose a control regime on Russian companies.     Maybe if the production facilities were run 100% by Siemens
then there would be something for the sanctions regime to latch onto.    

This is all about Siemens sucking Uncle Scumbag's cock and acting "tough on Russia" to prove its fealty.   It has nothing to do with any
legal case against Russia.    The analogy would be Ford or GM suing their customers for some end use of the cars they bought that
was prohibited after the sale of the cars.   Clearly Ford or GM have no legal case or standing.   It would have to be the higher authority
that prohibited the end use to impose legal sanction.    In the case of Russia and NATO dirtbags there is no higher authority.   NATO
cannot regulate inside Russia's borders.   NATO dirtbags also have no case against Siemens as well since Siemens did nothing after the sanctions
were imposed.   But being a pack of hyenas, Siemens needs to appease its masters.  

I am seeing the same "Russia can't make turbines, even though the technology transfer occurred a long time ago and turbines were locally
produced" theme as elsewhere.    Cut the retarded propaganda drivel.   These turbines are not brand new products from Germany.  They
were manufactured in Russia with about 30% from Russian designed components that could not be sourced from Siemens.  
So NATO and its fanbois can bugger off.

franco wrote:Methinks Siemens would make a nice lunch for those pups of yours.

PapaDragon wrote:
I assume Siemens received money for those turbines hence they can no longer claim any ownership of them

It's like selling a car and then wanting to decide where new owner can drive his car

They can either have money or turbines but they can't have both