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    Post  GarryB 29/08/23, 10:30 pm

    Nice. Bigger truck would be even nicer.

    With 16 launch tubes on the truck I think it is small enough to be affordable and easier to disguise as something else and mobile enough to be driving all over the place if needed.

    A bigger truck might mean more controllers but would still mean sitting still and being vulnerable and more expensive.

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    Post  Kiko 05/09/23, 12:46 am

    Russian company Iksarus develops simulator with VR glasses for learning to pilot drones, 09.05.2023.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Russian technology company Iksarus has developed a flight simulator with the Viarus virtual reality goggle to learn how to operate FPV drones, the National Technology Initiative (NTI) platform has announced.

    "We developed a simulator with our Viarus virtual reality glasses in order to teach how to pilot drones," Mikhail Sinakin, head of the project and executive director of Iksarus, said in the NTI statement.

    Viarus integrates with the controls with the help of USB type-C cables and the pilot with the virtual reality goggle operates the virtual drone, as if he were driving a real drone, Sinakin added.

    The developers of the innovation stressed that VR glasses are almost no different from the FPV glasses that are used in drone flight.

    "Flying a real drone produces the feeling of dizziness. The image of the drone moves in space, while the operator does not. And this creates a conflict between the visual channel and the vestibular system, and hence the dizziness," Sinakin explained.

    The Iksarus simulator is used precisely to exercise the vestibular system with a three-stage programme.

    From the NTI detailed that the electronic part of the simulator is completely ready and the developers plan to launch in the coming days another simulator for military use with the Viarus virtual reality viewer.

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    https://sputniknews.lat/20230905/la-rusa-iksarus-desarrolla-simulador-con-gafa-rv-para-aprender-a-pilotar-drones-1143374467.html

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    Post  ALAMO 08/09/23, 08:20 am

    5kg is quite a big one for this type of ammo.
    I seriously consider that Lancet proved to be too weak for the task.
    Nothing wrong with that, it was designed to minimize collateral damage, with targets like a car or individual in mind. The fact that they managed to use it against such a variety of targets, heavily armored included, speaks very well about the system.

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    Post  GarryB 08/09/23, 10:30 pm

    Weight alone does not tell the whole story... and of course it depends on its roles... if it is for use against light armour and troops in the field then a HE Frag warhead that is a decent size would be rather good... something like the HE Frag bomb of an 82mm mortar round at about 4kgs would be effective, but against most modern western BMPs and MBTs it would not be good enough so perhaps a more sophisticated warhead with a HEAT warhead designed to penetrate decent amounts of armour but wrapped around that explosive some fragments to injure those nearby and also a double fuse where you can activate the HEAT warhead to penetrate armour with the shaped charge but also a fuse at the front or side of the round to just make the warhead blow up like a bomb if the target happens to be soft and not need to be penetrated.

    Ironically I would say a decent HEAT warhead would penetrate deeply into any armoured vehicle so even very lightly protected vehicles like artillery vehicles would be better hit by HEAT rounds to try to start a fire because that is what will take out an armoured vehicle better than any shrapnel damage might... if you can set it on fire and get the ammo and fuel to go up.

    They have some very sophisticated warheads on some of their engineer disposable rockets that would be very good for this sort of use.

    5kgs is a good sized bomb, but the difference between an 82mm mortar round and a 120mm mortar round with 4kg and 16kg bombs respectively is quite significant.
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    Post  JohninMK 13/09/23, 03:50 pm

    A little bit more on the Scalpel

    Russia has created a cheap analogue of the Lancet drone.

    The kamikaze drone "Scalpel" from the Russian design bureau "Vostok" will have a payload compartment with a diameter of 125 mm and a length of 650 mm.

    This will allow it to be equipped with different warheads with a total weight of up to 5 kg.

    The drone has a maximum take-off weight of up to 10.5 kg, a cruising speed of up to 120 km and a flight range of up to 40 km. Launched from a catapult.

    Compared to the Lancet, it has 2 kg more payload and a 10 km/h higher cruising speed.

    As for the time the Scalpel was deployed, it has not been disclosed, as has the cost, as well as what it is made of.

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    Post  thegopnik 14/09/23, 10:28 am

    https://tass.com/defense/1674699

    Russia develops Vorobey mini-drone for strikes on armored vehicles — engineering executive
    Andrey Bratenkov named low cost and mass as the advantages of the new FPV drone
    MOSCOW, September 14. /TASS/. Russian specialists have developed an FPV drone, dubbed Vorobey (Sparrow), weighing 1.3 kilos with a 500-gram ordnance round for making strikes on armored vehicles, Andrey Bratenkov, executive director of the Spektr engineering firm, told TASS.

    He said that the drone, which carries a cumulative payload developed by a Russian research institute, had been successfully tested in the special military operation zone. According to Bratenkov, these drones will be deployed in combat in the near future, thus ensuring greater efficiency due to their lower mass and heightened effectiveness.

    "The round of ordnance weighs about 500 grams and is capable of penetrating armor of up to 200 mm [thick]. As a result, in terms of its properties, the Vorobey drone turns out to be a mini-Lancet. The first batch of drones and ordnance has already been handed over for use in the special [military] operation zone," Bratenkov said. The drone weighs 1.3 kilos and has a maximum flight range of up to 5 kilometers.

    The specialist named low cost and mass as the advantages of the new FPV drone. "Vorobey has turned out to have quite a ‘bite,’ because it can break through armored hardware. Its prime cost is much lower than that of the Lancet, about 150,000 rubles (about $1,500 - TASS). The drone is small and its length is about nine inches. One cannot drag a Lancet to the frontline on foot, while it is possible to carry about 10 Vorobey drones without any particular effort and the effectiveness is much greater this way," Bratenkov said.

    The Spektr engineering firm, headquartered in Novosibirsk, develops and produces unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). As reported earlier, the company has provided its Yozhik (Hedgehog) ground drone to be used for reconnaissance purposes in the special military operation.


    Want to know the diameter and speed for creativity purposes, this kind of weapon makes war look more fun to the point of forgetting fear.

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    Post  d_taddei2 14/09/23, 12:26 pm

    This is pretty cool and deadly. And at that price you could launch them all day. Brilliant

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    Post  PhSt 15/09/23, 04:30 pm

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    With regards to Geran-2, I would suggest the Russian mod to make different versions of this drone. Aside from the standard version, there should be a "silenced" version, equipped with a quiet motor that can be used for surprise night raids.

    Another update should be to make the munition interchangeable, so instead of the standard HE load, arm the drone with a thermobaric load, or some munition that will continue to burn far longer and spread much faster, this is particularly important to enable Russia to firebomb manufacturing facilities all over Ukraine. It seems all civilian plants in Ukraine have been converted to dual use facilities that are used to make weapons, munitions, and other products for the Ukraine's military. I suggest that all manufacturing hubs and facilities get firebombed ASAP before the start of fall.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E 17/09/23, 04:34 pm

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:
    Based on the number of uses, we can assume that production per day should be between 6 and 10 and will continue to rise.
    Realistically, 16 units of Lancet per day would be possible with 2x8 hour shifts.
    At least that would be my short-term production goal.
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    Instances of published FPV drone attacks by Russian forces, according to Lostarmour a (pro) Russian OSINT groups.
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    Production of 2x8 per day for 26 days per month = 416 Drohnes
    September could achieve this

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    Post  JohninMK 18/09/23, 08:52 am

    Switchblade alike

    New toy for the front: composite kamikaze drone "BAS-80" will be tested in the SMO zone

    Kamikaze drones with folding wings "BAS-80" have been handed over to the military for testing in the special operation zone in Ukraine to the Tsar's Wolves unit.

    The UAV weighs 1.7 kg and can be folded and placed in a tube for carrying. It is launched using a gunpowder charge. Payload "BAS-80" - 500 grams with the possibility of increasing up to 2 kg. The drone's maximum flight speed is up to 130 km/h, flight altitude - up to 200 meters, range - up to 30 km

    Note: I'm just wondering... you think: we are 50 million (actually less), can we provoke 140 million? These 140 million have no engineers, nothing, right?
    You know.... yesterday's peasants who just saw an ipad.

    Whoever came up with all this thought that it might turn out that on the other side are completely different people, and not what the propaganda portrays?
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    Post  thegopnik 18/09/23, 01:40 pm

    people are comparing this drone to the switchblade 300, it has 3 times the range than switchblade with a 50 meter higher altitude, weighs less, switchblade 300 warhead is equivalent to a 40mm grenade which is 239 grams, this drone is like 500g of explosive with plans to bump it up to 2kg

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    Post  thegopnik 19/09/23, 09:20 am

    thanks to Belisarius post on the other thread.

    🛸 Lancet hit a Ukrainian mig-29 at Krivoy Rog airfield.

    📍47.9021719, 33.5212766

    🧐 The airport is around 66 km far.

    🤷‍� Not sure if the Aircraft is operational.
    https://t.me/VampireSix/629

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    Post  d_taddei2 19/09/23, 03:35 pm

    In the video you see another mig-29 in next bay. They look in fairly good condition so could be active. It looks like the cockpit took the damage.
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    Post  thegopnik 20/09/23, 08:39 pm

    close to being a stealth drone if it wasn't for the propeller in the front and winglets.



    MOSCOW, September 20 - RIA Novosti. The Russian company ZALA AERO has created an analogue of the Geranium kamikaze drone, called Italmas, the TV channel reported "Russia 1".
    As noted in the plot of the TV channel, the new loitering ammunition has a shape similar to the Geranium and is also equipped with an internal combustion engine. Fuel is poured into the wing tanks of the drone. The drone is a completely domestic development.
    According to the general designer of the company "Aeroscan" Alexander Zakharov, the new drone has a range of up to 200 kilometers.

    it truely a drone month lol


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    Post  thegopnik 20/09/23, 08:42 pm

    https://tass.com/defense/1676707


    MOSCOW, September 19. /TASS/. Russia will increase several-fold the production of the Lantset and Kub kamikaze drones as well as the Takhion and Granat unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), a senior manager at the state-run tech corporation Rostec told reporters on Tuesday.

    "Capacities for the production of UAVs have been expanded, which will help us multiply the manufacturing of the Kub, Lantset, Granat, Takhion and other UAVs," said Bekkhan Ozdoyev, Rostec’s industrial director of the cluster of weapons, ammunition and special chemistry.

    He also reiterated plans to double the production of the Kitolov, Strela and Vikhr missiles as well as the 9M333 guided missile.

    The Russian Defense Ministry has regularly reported the elimination of targets with the use of the Kub and Lantset kamikaze drones in the course of the special military operation. Also, Russia has reportedly used the Takhion drone to detect from air secret positions of Ukrainian troops.

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    Post  xeno 20/09/23, 08:48 pm

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    Latest Italmas suicide drone from your lancet inventor...
    So now Geran2 covering 1000km rang;
    Italmas covering 200km rang;
    Lancet covering <100km rang.
    All of them are very effective and cheap compared to the products of parasitic western defense industry...

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    Post  thegopnik 20/09/23, 09:47 pm

    Geez we might all want to relook news sources from the army forum we overlooked.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/18526267?ysclid=lmsonv8uok698825001

    At the Army-2023 forum, the Granat-PG bomber drone was shown for the first time
    The range of the device is up to 5 km, the flight speed is up to 140 km / h
    PATRIOT PARK /Moscow region/, August 17. /TASS/. The Granat-PG attack unmanned aerial system bomber was first presented at the Army-2023 International Military-Technical Forum. This was reported to TASS by the Astrohn Optical-Mechanical Design Bureau (OKB).

    Rostec noted the increased effectiveness of Pantsir-S against Storm Shadow
    The demining machine "Foliage" will receive a more powerful microwave gun

    "For the first time, we are showing the Granat-PG strike bomber complex. The device is designed to strike with the PG-7VL anti-tank grenade. This is good old ammunition, which is always available to Russian units, the complex is good because the military will not have problems finding a warhead. "Granat-PG" is successfully used in the zone of the special operation," the Astrohn Design Bureau said.

    The Design Bureau noted that the complex is one of the FPV drones (first-person view). "A high-resolution thermal imaging camera mounted on the product allows you to recognize a person's figure at a distance of up to 200 m and a car at a distance of up to 500 m," the TASS source said.

    The range of the device is up to 5 km. The flight speed is up to 140 km / h, the payload weight is up to 1.6 kg. "The device is controlled via secure communication channels, which makes it resistant to enemy electronic warfare," the design bureau said.

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    Post  Hole 21/09/23, 08:26 am

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    Size comparison: Shrek and the new drone.

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    Post  Hole 23/09/23, 01:48 pm

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    Don´t know if this was shown before. Mothership for FPV drones.

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    Post  limb 25/09/23, 12:13 pm

    WHy a puller prop instead of a pusher prop config? Wouldnt a belly mounted camera provide more awkward FOV and control than nose mounted?
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    Post  GarryB 25/09/23, 04:21 pm

    Puller props mean even if the drone is stalling it has some control with the prop wash going over the flight surfaces...

    Most propeller driven aircraft has their engines there too...

    Don't confuse the cameras, a belly mounted camera has a better field of view compared with a nose mounted camera, so for flying higher and looking down over the battlefield the belly camera makes more sense.
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    Post  limb 25/09/23, 07:48 pm

    GarryB wrote:Puller props mean even if the drone is stalling it has some control with the prop wash going over the flight surfaces...

    Most propeller driven aircraft has their engines there too...

    Don't confuse the cameras, a belly mounted camera has a better field of view compared with a nose mounted camera, so for flying higher and looking down over the battlefield the belly camera makes more sense.

    Do you even understand what a suicide drone is? Its not supposed to look down on the battlefield its supposed to look forward, up and down. Why does the lancet have a puller prop then
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    Post  The-thing-next-door 25/09/23, 11:48 pm

    Have they phased out the Geran-1s already?


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