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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:38 pm

    "Feb 9
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    #OTD in 1943, 80 years ago, Volyn Massacre began. It resulted in the murder of 50.000-60.000 Poles by Ukrainian nationalists - supporters of the policies of S.Bandera's faction of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) & its military arm, Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA)"





    The "50 000 - 60 000 ethnic Poles killed" is only for the region of Volhynia.

    The conservative estimates for the ethnic Poles killed by the Ukrainian nationalists in all regions are at approximately 100 000, while a more generous estimate puts it at 200 000 killed, and there is even a 300 000 killed estimate.


    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html



    Only in Lublinia, which is located entirely in Poland-proper, the Ukrainian nationalists killed around 15 000 ethnic Poles:

    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/460/land-zamosc-zamojszczyzna-1942-1944



    Imagine that many Brits killed in one of your colonies.



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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:44 pm

    https://t.me/milinfolive/96866?single
    Video of a blown up automobile bridge on the Konstantinovka-Bakhmut highway across the Seversky Donets-Donbass canal, located west of the village of Ivanovskoye.

    Thus, this road can no longer be fully used to supply the Ukrainian group in Bakhmut (Artemovsk) and now the main road to the city remains the “western” route, which goes through Chasov Yar.

    That means that road Bakhmut- Konstantinovka ist kaputt.
    Location 👇👇👇
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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:09 pm

    It is revealing that men sent inside Russia are kamikazis
    This "article" claims that Russia will use agents inside Britain to kill people/destroy stuff.

    Or does it mean that BoJo, Surnak and the other british PM´s of which I can´t remember the names
    are in reality russian agents?  scratch
    I mean, they did so many evil things to the british people. This would be the only reasonable explanation.
    Well, except that they are dumb and incompetent.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:43 pm

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    During three hundred and fifty-third day of combats #UkrainianArmy retreated from Krasna Hora/Красна Гора. Meanwhile, #RussianArmy and #DPR forces continue combing operations inside the town.
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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:52 pm

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    Found in Ukro trenches in the Kremenaya area
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    What air defence doing?

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    Post  billybatts91 Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:54 am

    lol!
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    Post  Backman Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:05 am

    Look at these retards. Do they think this is some sport war like Afghanistan ? They are so clueless its unreal. Hopefully the next shell lands on their heads.

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    Post  Backman Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:41 am

    An encirclement of 5-10,000 troops in Bakhmut is so close that it would be a real shame if it didn't happen now. Lets get the job done here men.

    As this guy says in the video, this isn't like Mariupol though. The regime withdrew their elite forces. They are just sending cannon fodder into Bakhmut to fight to the end. If they get encircled, it would still be good to take them off the board.

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    Post  thegopnik Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:09 am

    By no means do I want to be an asshole but some possible pain the ass issues for Russia like Turkey has been removed so it would free up some any possible mobilization plans towards the west than the south. Turkey was investing in allot of money for modern militarization of their products ranging from navy land and sea. Now because of the death toll being over 21,000 with 4 earthquakes they will be investing most of the money to rebuild infrastructures while Russia sends Su-35s and S-400s to iran because Syria and Iran together are still formidable opponents, and the Turks don't trust the Jews enough that lobbied against them from purchasing more F-35s.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:26 am

    Backman wrote:...As this guy says in the video, this isn't like Mariupol though. The regime withdrew their elite forces. They are just sending cannon fodder into Bakhmut to fight to the end. If they get encircled, it would still be good to take them off the board.

    It doesn't matter which ones get killed, what matters is that maximum possible number gets killed

    Whether next attempt at war with Russia happens or not will depend on amount of Nazis that Russians put into the ground during this one

    Deterrence




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    Post  GarryB Sun Feb 12, 2023 6:48 am

    Destroying a bridge is very hard even with direct hits. You need to destroy its feet so that it collapse.

    Agree, but you can also use concrete piercing bombs that punch down into the rock and when they explode they undermine the foundations of the bridge support structure and make it unsafe...

    The video footage of that drone shows the explosion was near the water surface and the water would have protected the river bed from most of the blast, which would have been reflected up by the water at the spans and nearby legs... not an ideal way to destroy a bridge, but certainly sneaky.

    Concrete piercing bomb would just make hole, unless you hit precisely the feet from the top. But even then just one part would be destroy and you could still repair it.

    Concrete piercing bomb does punch a small hole in hard materials like concrete or rock but after it penetrates it then explodes and shatters the concrete and rock above it and to the sides making them rather less viable as foundations for anything above them...

    IIRC, the big Kherson bridge was under continuous Ukrainian attacks by HIMARS and the like, and they also only managed to disrupt traffic a bit each time.

    When trying to destroy hard targets then mass matters... using HIMARS rockets with 50-100kg warheads is a problem... like trying to shoot down a brick and concrete wall with a .22LR... but for the Russians they have air power and decent sized bombs including guided glide bombs...

    For example, we have a second day of constant pulverizing of the power generation system. And this time they target the turbines they have spared till now.

    They have done a deal with Iran over turbine blades so there is no value in preserving turbines in Ukraine... let the Russian friendly liberated areas get Russian made turbines and let the rest beg to Germany for the blades...

    The AFU operational command "South" reported that Russia has struck the island of Zmeiny (Snake)
    A front-line bomber Su-24M of the Russian Aerospace Forces dropped 4 bombs, in addition, three Onyx missile strikes were carried out on the coastal infrastructure of Odessa.

    Radars, communications, a base for nazi operations in the Black Sea?

    Yeah, that's still repairable. Tough fucking beast of Soviet engineering.

    Very much so, but not much is going to be travelling along that line for a while... and when it gets fixed they can hit it again.

    Perhaps visitors from the "garden" can come and pay to see the "jungle"...

    Get out of here Stalker... Very Happy

    Does the missile have deployable wings like Kh-55 series?

    The original Iskander-K is just a normal cruise missile but with double the warhead (1,000kgs or more) and reduced fuel to reach about 450km to stay within the INF treaty limits, but now the INF treaty is gone so they could add that fuel back and get better range... I would think the powerful warhead would be useful against some targets.

    Bridge destroyed now , means Bridge could have been destroyed earlier . Power station destroyed now , means power station could have been destroyed earlier . Why take half measures ?

    They had plenty of other things that they needed to destroy first... fuel and ammo dumps, etc etc.

    The point is escalation... if you hit everything at the start then what can you escalate to hit if they don't behave or strike back or escalate things.

    Am not suggesting this because what the west have us believe Russia is running out of missiles but rather using up old stock and keeping the better stuff for more important or when precise targeting is needed.

    Would be a nice symmetry too... the US is demanding eastern european countries empty their inventories of ex Soviet gear and ammo and promise to replace with modern new production stuff (which will be more expensive and give them another control over these countries if they need it)...

    For Russia a lot of their new stuff it not super expensive... the ammo is relatively cheap while being more accurate and therefore more effective too.

    If India wants to make its own weapons it should be making Pantsir and TOR missiles in their millions because such weapons are very useful and become more useful when available in larger numbers.

    Very interesting private initiative about forming a unit of special forces with top equipment.

    Very good idea... and excellent chance for companies to test their new gear in the field and get feedback to upgrade and modify their kit, which of course will provide them with references they can use when submitting their products for contracts with the Russian military... having it tested and being successful in combat is a huge advantage and with your own troops suggesting it be adopted... well...

    Of course you need to be careful about corruption obviously... but that can be managed too.

    As this guy says in the video, this isn't like Mariupol though. The regime withdrew their elite forces. They are just sending cannon fodder into Bakhmut to fight to the end. If they get encircled, it would still be good to take them off the board.

    If it is just cannon fodder then get them to surrender and save some bullets and shells for the nazis doing the Hussein Bolt impressions...

    It doesn't matter which ones get killed, what matters is that maximum possible number gets killed

    I think the rats withdrawing from the area at high speed via land vehicle and helicopters are worth a bit of extra effort to take down, while the meatshields pushed to the front line are not worth a lot of bullets... if they surrender then they become something they can trade... hell some of them might be motivated enough to want to join a resistance force against Kiev.

    If they want to surrender then accept their surrender and treat them with respect... if they don't want to surrender then that is OK too.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:12 am

    To HOLE
    This guy is a Serb, my friend.. 🙂
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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:14 am

    Some close-ups for T-90M.

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/77883

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/77884

    Seems that Nakidka coverage is a piece of standard equipment.
    Its goal is to cover the thermal signature of a tank, disperse the laser beam of rangefinders, and "a lot more".
    The tank is much more spacious than the older tans thanks to a new turret.

    And some more tank porn as a bonus Laughing

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/77877

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:51 am

    Post d_taddei2 Yesterday at 7:08 pm

    I wonder how easy it would be for Russia to convert old anti ship missiles such as P-15 termit etc and old surface to surface rockets such as FROG-3/5/7, maybe even some scuds and anti air missiles Sa-2, Sa-4,Sa-5 into surface to surface missiles with a GPS guidance or other simple fairly accurate system. I know the Houthi turned Sa-2 into surface to surface with a fairly decent success rate although I suspect help from Iran. All these systems have fairly large warheads a d would be ideal for smashing Nazi scum positions and infrastructure. Am not suggesting this because what the west have us believe Russia is running out of missiles but rather using up old stock and keeping the better stuff for more important or when precise targeting is needed. It would be a good way to clear out old stocks it's not everyday u get to blast Nazis away. And I can't imagine it would be difficult for Russia to implement and save money in terms of having to disarm and dispose of these munitions.
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    Soviet naval grade anti air systems had a secondary capability to attack naval targets as well. That applies to Volna, Neva, Shtorm, Riff. Could have been used against radar contrast targets, only for obvious reasons were limited to the radar horizon.
    That was used as a part of a propaganda campaign about Russkie running out of missiles and using old S-300 for land attack. Figured out to cover enormous material and human losses caused by the failure of Ukro AD.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:20 am

    Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

    A strong candidate for 2023 Darwin Awards !

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:29 am

    ALAMO wrote:Soviet naval grade anti air systems had a secondary capability to attack naval targets as well. That applies to Volna, Neva, Shtorm, Riff. Could have been used against radar contrast targets, only for obvious reasons were limited to the radar horizon.
    That was used as a part of a propaganda campaign about Russkie running out of missiles and using old S-300 for land attack. Figured out to cover enormous material and human losses caused by the failure of Ukro AD.

    In particular the M-11 Shtorm 4K60 (NATO codename SA-N-3 Goblet) that was carried by Moska, Kresta-II, Kara and Kiev class vessels. It always seemed odd that the Soviets would build major ship classes without significant anti-surface missile systems (well.. Kievs did have P-500 Bazalts/SS-N-12 Sandbox, and Metel-Rastrub/SS-N-14 Silex had "secondary" anti-ship capabilities). In those days I read endless BS conjecture from Western "experts" on why this was, yet it is now apparent Shtorm provided all of these vessels with signifiant capabilities against enemy surface combatants within radar horizon range.

    IMHO the design of the missiles clearly indicates their intended dual-purpose. In contrast to the SA-N-1 (S-125 based), they are twice as heavy, single stage with a heavier warhead (80 kgs).

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:14 pm

    Wagner recruiting ad for ex-US military  thumbsup



    And a pretty interesting, long video from a Brit who went to the LPR for some sight-seeing. Goes into a lot of detail on modern Russia and the Lugansk region in particular. He's not there to take the piss like that Bald & Bankrupt idiot used to do in Russia

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    Post  Hole Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:58 pm

    The regime withdrew their elite forces. They are just sending cannon fodder into Bakhmut to fight to the end. 
    This is just the same excuse used by the regime/NATO when they loose some important city/settlement.
    Those elite units lost 80% of their fighters in Bakhmut alone, according to western and Ukro people.
    Some of these units sustained such losses more than once since the SMO started.

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    Post  Mir Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:06 pm

    Britain could produce weapons in Ukraine – Telegraph

    https://www.rt.com/news/571358-uk-arms-production-ukraine/

    Wouldn't it be a bit safer for these dumb idiots to produce weapons for Ukraine in say...Britain? scratch

    (or anywhere else but Ukraine for that matter)

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:08 pm

    An interesting fact.
    According to the military psychology, the overall rating of a unit after sustaining such losses deteriorates even if it is being resupplied.
    That is why in intense fighting, it is sometimes a better option to dissolve the unit and disperse the remaining personnel in different ones rather than supplying it with fresh meat. To keep the banner, it is being formed brand new.
    The practice was standard in WW1, because in another way it ended up with a core of "old guard" that will do all they can to stay alive at the expanse of fresh meat.  
    Or freshly supplied officers, to replace the ones who heroically died with a bullet in the back of the head. Own caliber.

    Britain could produce weapons in Ukraine – Telegraph
    https://www.rt.com/news/571358-uk-arms-production-ukraine/
    Wouldn't it be a bit safer for these dumb idiots to produce weapons for Ukraine in say...Britain? scratch
    (or anywhere else but Ukraine for that matter)


    Maybe there is a tricky part of the issue.
    As the western breed Wunderwaffe proved to be inferior to the Soviet legacy of systems, not even to mention new pieces, some smartass possibly started an action of brain hunting already Twisted Evil
    So "inspecting" will be a part of surveillance only, and extraction maneuver.
    We are in April 1945 bro Laughing

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