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    Post  flamming_python Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:06 am

    Begome is right. Nazis were influenced by eugenics promoters and thinkers from the british isles and here in the states. This indeed goes back to the scientific and cultural revolutions from the late 1700s to mid 1800s. I read a book called Black Stork. Discussed the eugenics programs here in the US. Some states actually put laws on the books. Thousands of the blind, the deaf, the mentally and physically disabled were sterilized by law. You can find quotes from judges, politicians and "philanthropists" in the early 20th century coldly discussing the benefits and what pertained to the future.

    Was talking about white on white racism specifically

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:40 am

    A short interview made by Ukro reporter in Artemovsk.

    https://t.me/SIL0VIKI/61406

    The juicy part :
    According to the reports of drivers who evacuate 200/300 from the city, the average time of staying alive for unprepared/untrained Ukrowehrmacht troopers is ... 4h. FOUR HOURS.
    The face of the interviewed officer is priceless if you understand the body language ...
    "We don't carry this kind of statistic" is his official answer.

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    Post  Kiko Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:48 am

    Fighter "Wagner" spoke about the heavy fighting for the southern quarters of Artemovsk, 02.05.2023.

    A fighter of the Wagner group announced heavy urban battles for the southern quarters of Artemovsk.

    ARTEMOVSK (DPR), February 5 - RIA Novosti. For the southern quarters of Artemovsk, heavy urban battles are taking place, into which Kyiv throws more and more new units, replenishing losses at the expense of mobilized Ukrainians, a Wagner Group fighter told RIA Novosti.

    "Now (APU. - Ed.) They have already come up against specifically. At two points - there is a high-rise building, long corridors, fortified basements. We know the enemy's firing points. We worked well tonight - we took up a position, the guys advanced," the interlocutor said about the situation agencies.

    As the fighter clarified, now they are confronted by regular units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and the Russian military last encountered foreign mercenaries in early January.

    “Now the Armed Forces of Ukraine – those who surrender as prisoners – say that they pick them up on the street according to the agenda, throw them into the car and bring them here. But without a fight, they very rarely surrender anyway. Either the ammunition supply ends, or they are injured, or something else” , - he said.

    The military also noted that Ukrainian artillery continues to strike at the advancing Russian forces, but now the number of attacks is decreasing. The fighter explained the situation by the lack of ammunition in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    “In December, it was more difficult with artillery. The ammunition load is probably running out. Ammunition is brought up - artillery starts working again, but now it has become easier with this than it used to be,” he shared his observation.

    https://ria.ru/20230205/artemovsk-1849811120.html

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:49 am

    They run out of Oglala shamans to carry a rain-calling dance with drums.

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:40 pm

    ALAMO wrote:"We don't carry this kind of statistic" is his official answer.
    His answer sounds different: "It seems to me that this is some kind of negative statistics. I think it's longer."
    And this is a big nuance, not "we don't have such statistics," but "I don't want to believe it, it seems to me that this is too short a time, but I agree that this number is less than a day, but I can't say it, because they will be persecuted me if I say it".
    This is what he doesn't say, but what is obvious from the interview, the nature of his response and body language.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:50 pm

    Ah, you are right - I was hearing Ukrainian not cautiously enough, and haven't read the Russian translation at all. .
    Heard not "ce taka nehatyvna statystyka" but "ne taka statystyka".

    Edit : gore warning.

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/43394

    It is just some random Ukrowehrmacht position in Krasnaya Hora after musicians cleaned it.
    9KIA Ukrs.
    Dozens of such strongholds are being decimated each day.
    If someone still contests the Ukro loses numbers ...

    Ochakov is on fire again.
    Seems Russkie really don't like the Brits sitting there, barbequing them each few days ...

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    Post  Hole Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:37 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov will likely be dismissed from his ministerial post next week
    Booooooo!
    No No No
    Why? He is doing such a great job!
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    Post  marcellogo Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:47 pm

    Was talking about white on white racism specifically
    And Etgenetics is the pick of such racism: you epurate your own gene pool of all the "undesiderable" hereditary traits.
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    Post  Kiko Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:55 pm

    Oleksii Reznikov will be replaced by the head of GUR, Kyrylo Oleksyovych Budanov at the 404 Ministry of Defence.
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    Post  Hole Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:00 pm

    Putin will visit one of the “new regions of Russia next week”, which one is not specified — Russia 1
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    Post  lyle6 Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:10 pm

    Kiko wrote:Oleksii Reznikov will be replaced by the head of GUR, Kyrylo Oleksyovych Budanov at the 404 Ministry of Defence.
    Useless musical chairs. By the gun one by one they are going to pay.

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    Post  Hole Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:13 pm

    In Ukraine, the age for military registration has been lowered by a year - to 16 years Ukrainian authorities claim this is being done to optimize the military registration system. Russian soldiers are already reporting that 17-year-old fighters have been killed and captured. - Twitter sources

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    Post  Regular Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:57 pm

    And Etgenetics is the pick of such racism: you epurate your own gene pool of all the "undesiderable" hereditary traits.

    Not entirely true, the concept of it can be well implemented without racial bias. Soviet Eugenics research ignored racial element and focused more towards improving whole humanity. Soviet Man concept also had no racial component in it too. Not saying I agree with this, but eugenics is very slippery topic.
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    Post  franco Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:31 pm

    A Turkish newspaper reported on an apparent Mossad assessment of causalities after 11 months are as follows:

    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1622163110701268993/photo/1

    Russian causalities; https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1622163110701268993/photo/2

    Ukrainian causalities; https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1622163110701268993/photo/3



    EDIT: Sorry but this not working as envisioned.

    Go to the first page, click on it. Then use the arrow on the right to advance the photos.


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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:34 pm

    Lol how could Ukraine have lost over 6000 tanks if it had slightly more than 2000 at the start?

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:34 pm

    Mali?
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    Post  franco Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:38 pm

    Lol how could Ukraine have lost over 6000 tanks if it had slightly more than 2000 at the start?

    My first inclination is to be nasty Twisted Evil  however please review again and take notice of the "Tanks and armoured vehicles" thumbsup


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    Post  Scorpius Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:38 pm

    Lol how could Ukraine have lost over 6000 tanks if it had slightly more than 2000 at the start?

    This is the column "Tanks and other armored vehicles"

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    Post  famschopman Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:41 pm

    The Russian strategy will go in the history books as one of the greatest military strategies ever despite everyone shitting on Putin, Shoigu and Gerasimov, No one can ignore the results. Yes they probably made mistakes, or maybe they let others think they made mistake as bait. No one knows.

    Fighting against a (more or less) unified western front / unofficially NATO with relatively low casualties and losses in material in very tough terrain against large amounts of modern weaponry, modern surveillance and battle management equipment. And that, without causing major harm to your economy while still maintaining or even advancing relationship with other countries.

    Honestly, in the future people will read that book instead of "The Art of War". I don't think most people actually comprehend how insanely smart the Russia leadership is navigating all of this.

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    Post  Regular Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:52 pm

    Officials have been looking for a civil society in Russia for decades. They created all sorts of simulacra like the Public Chambers and other structures. Conducted research, forums, seminars and surveys.

    Meanwhile, this very society existed for itself, it just did not care about the attempts of bureaucrats.

    In photo #1, Katya and Valya send another batch of Matrice 30T drones to the soldiers https://t.me/katya_valya_dnr/2399

    In photo No. 2, Fighter and his comrades-in-arms dressed the whole regiment in Nomex flight suits (I don’t even understand how they succeeded, but they succeeded) https://t.me/fighter_bomber/10770

    In photo No. 3, fighters of the 144th Motor Rifle Division thank the Elder Edda team and all the guys who help him for LAR-10 rifles from Lobaev Arms https://t.me/vysokygovorit/10680

    That's civil society. The best possible.

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    Volunteers still donating large amount of drones
    Russian pilots in RAF flight suits
    Russians with Lobaev AR rifles

    All of this still looks surrealistic


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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:53 pm

    The Russian strategy will go in the history books as one of the greatest military strategies ever despite everyone shitting on Putin, Shoigu and Gerasimov, No one can ignore the results. Yes they probably made mistakes, or maybe they let others think they made mistake as bait. No one knows.

    Honestly, they made one mistake only, and we know that better and better.
    Ex Israel PM stated, that in Ukr/Rus negotiations, a solution was steadily approved.
    They had 17 points already agreed.
    It was the US's direct meddling that forbid the Ukrainians to continue the process.
    Killing one of the negotiators was probably a way to shut them up.

    So everything was going well with the plan.
    Russia presented overwhelming firepower, advancing at the rate of the biggest military genie campaigns ever, taking 25% of the territory and functionally eliminating the existing armed forces of Ukraine.
    Common sense started to prevail, Ukraine started to accept nonaligned status, and Zelensky himself started to talk that maybe it is not such a bad idea.
    European states started to express some common sense either, with multiple voices about the need of finishing the conflict, not delivering weapons "to not extend it" etc.

    And that was a moment when Anglosaxons directly intervened because as I have said multiple times already, this is not a war with Russia, but with Europe at first.
    From the Anglosaxon perspective, this war will be a partial strategic victory anyway, because they have already made Europe to bend over.
    Euro business, especially industry that was one of the mainstays of EU prosperity, won't recover after that, because there will be no space for it.

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