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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:52 pm

    Analysis of current state of VKS aerial campaign done by Russian military scientists:

    https://t.me/Viktor_Murakhovskiy/417

    In the course of conducting a special military operation, some significant features of the hostilities both on the part of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and on the part of the actions of the armed forces of Ukraine were revealed:

    Combat operations on both sides are of a clearly expressed combined-arms nature, when the priority and large-scale use of ground troops is brought to the fore. In this regard, large-caliber artillery and multiple launch rocket systems have acquired special significance and importance.

    Against the background of the actions of the ground forces, strike aviation was assigned (for various objective and subjective reasons) an auxiliary role, which boils down to the use of mainly attack and army aviation for the tasks of air support for troops at the forefront, fighter and bomber aviation - for stationary objects in tactical and operational tactical depth and defeat of detected long-range, medium-range and short-range air defense systems using guided missiles and guided (gliding) bomber weapons.

    Attack aviation practically does not fulfill the task of destroying communication facilities (bridges, crossings, railway junctions, trains with troops and equipment) in the operational depth of enemy troops, although on February 28, 2022, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported that Russian aviation had won dominance in air on the territory of Ukraine.

    The use of Russian means of air and space reconnaissance turned out to be very limited, especially in terms of identifying mobile objects and movements of troops of the armed forces of Ukraine. This circumstance significantly limits the capabilities of the strike aircraft of the Aerospace Forces to deliver operational strikes against such objects in real time.

    It turned out that even in the conditions of air supremacy won, strike aircraft cannot carry out tasks in full force either at the forefront, much less in the depths of enemy territory, while he uses even a limited number of air defense systems, receiving full-scale reconnaissance information and target designation from radar systems. patrol and surveillance, air and space reconnaissance of NATO countries.

    The enemy’s lack of full-fledged aviation and the presence of even a limited number of air defense systems with effective reconnaissance support and target designation by NATO means do not allow Russian strike aviation to effectively solve combat and special tasks in accordance with its main purpose.
    The combat actions of the parties in a special military operation are accompanied by a significant use of unmanned vehicles, starting with mini-UAVs and ending with complexes with long-range and long-duration UAVs. Unmanned aircraft have won in the airspace a predominant role over manned aircraft in solving the problems of aerial reconnaissance and target designation. Attack UAVs, capable of inflicting significant damage to both mobile small targets and large objects of Ukraine's critical infrastructure, showed particular importance in solving strike tasks both above the front line and in the depths of the territory of Ukraine.

    In the course of a special military operation, the significant role of the long-range VTO (visoko tochnoe oruzhie - high precision weapons) in solving the problems of destroying the critical infrastructure of the enemy was once again demonstrated. At the same time, it becomes clear that the use of VTO for solving such problems should be measured by tens, if not hundreds of long-range cruise missiles used in each massive fire strike in order to reliably overcome the air defense system and achieve the desired effect of hitting critical infrastructure.

    "The use of strike aviation of the Aerospace Forces in the military conflicts of the future." Colonel Ermolin O.V., Colonel Zubov N.P., Colonel Fomin M.V. - Military Thought, No. 2 - 2023.
    Colonel Yermolin Oleg Vladimirovich, candidate of technical sciences, associate professor. Heads the Research Center at the Central Research Institute of the Air Force of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Colonels Zubov Nikolai Petrovich and Fomin Mikhail Vladimirovich are also employees of the same institute.

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    Post  DerWolf Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:26 pm

    VKS is the branch which have perform the poorest in this campaing. Thats s fact. But it is undersatndable coz of so much anti aircraft systems Ukraine has.

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    Post  Begome Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:38 pm

    flamming_python wrote:It was Nazi Germany which popularized it of course, some white nations are superior, some are untermenshen. While the Latin peoples in the south are a mix of things. The Anglo-Saxons (really just the British, the Americans never cared) didn't go to quite that extreme.

    That is one of the biggest misconceptions in the world today.

    Racial supremacy ideology in its current form goes back to Darwin and was used to justify British colonialism and exploitation of India and other places; the Anglo-Saxon man was seen as the pinnacle of evolution and ideas of eugenics were most popular in the Anglosphere. As for the Americans...need I really remind everyone of human zoos where thousands of black and other non-white people were displayed in New York in the last century, locked in cages like animals (see this documentary, for example: https://youtu.be/nY6Zrol5QEk )? Or Tuskegee (also last century)? Or racial segregation that ended only in the last century in the US? Not even to speak of slavery before that (also based on racial supremacy, but not in it's current, Darwinian, form), but my given examples all predate the rise of Hitler and come after Darwin, showing how this complex of racist ideas does not come from the German Nazis originally (though they certainly gladly adopted it and put themselves at the top).
    As for whites, sure they were less ill-regarded than non-whites, but if you traveled back a hundred years in the US what attitudes do you think were present about Irish or, later, Polish immigrants? Remember the "dirty Serbs!" comment by Albright? And I don't think I need to mention the hatred being spewed against Russians today, including in the US...one look at Twitter and it is abundantly clear how much deeply rooted hatred against Russians exists in the anglophone countries today.

    Russia, a "white" country, is fighting the collective West, not just Germany, today in Ukraine; the collective West is supporting child-murdering Neo-Nazis and wants to enslave or exterminate the Russian people. The roots of this is the Germanic culture of supremacy that can be seen throughout the Western lands, including in North America and all throughout Western history, going back more than a thousand years...the latest iteration of it as the moral supremacy cult promoted by both left and right (with some few exceptions) or the prior Darwinian racial supremacy cult (still active today in some parts of the West) is far from the origin.

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    Post  Backman Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:57 pm

    The response in case of strikes on the Crimea and deep into Russia will be quick, tough and convincing - Medvedev

    Russia does not set itself any restrictions in the form of a response to attacks, depending on the nature of the threats, it is ready to use all types of weapons - Medvedev

    If Ukraine tries to strike at Crimea, there will be retaliation strikes, all Ukraine remaining under the rule of Kiev will burn - Medvedev

    It looks like Russia is aware that the US is probably dumb enough to carry out these Crimea strikes. Maybe it would be for the better if Russia responds as it should

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    Post  nomadski Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:28 pm





    Ark wrote " Taking land that cannot be held because of lack of fortifications, and no urban natural defensive positions . " No need to build fortifications , just take over the Ukrs bunkers , or use artillery shell holes for cover , there are plenty of them . Let the Orcs stay in the city ,encircled , who cares ? What the Orcs have air force ? No ! Is their arty more accurate than Russian ? No ! So those troops are safe in captured bunkers or shell holes . Well ask arty to make some more holes ......
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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:32 pm


    The response in case of strikes on the Crimea and deep into Russia will be quick, tough and convincing - Medvedev

    Russia does not set itself any restrictions in the form of a response to attacks, depending on the nature of the threats, it is ready to use all types of weapons - Medvedev

    If Ukraine tries to strike at Crimea, there will be retaliation strikes, all Ukraine remaining under the rule of Kiev will burn - Medvedev

    It looks like Russia is aware that the US is probably dumb enough to carry out these Crimea strikes. Maybe it would be for the better if Russia responds as it should.
    What is the difference between hitting Crimea from hitting Donetsk or Belgorod? Not to mention that Crimea was already hit before.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:39 pm

    True.
    And hit multiple times, for years.
    Terror attacks mostly.
    Dima is making his show for specified auditory.
    Let him be. On a scale of comedians he is lagging behind Laughing
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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:59 pm

    This war came at the opportune time for him to try and get back on main political stage, after being sidelined few years ago.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:28 pm





    He was in Moscow heroically handling the Georgian invasion of South Ossetia while Putin hauled his ass to watch the summer Olympics in Beijing.



    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/264/georgian-losses-reports


    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/302/ukraine-participated-invasion-south-ossetia



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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:31 pm

    First ever, even if low quality video, of catapulting pilots from Ka-52. Apparently, from beginning of the war

    https://t.me/milinfolive/96527

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    Post  Kiko Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:37 pm

    Russian forces approach Ugledar, Pushilin said
    Pushilin announced the consolidation of Russian forces near Ugledar from three directions.

    DONETSK, February 4 - RIA Novosti. Russian units are approaching Ugledar in the DPR, Denis Pushilin , the acting head of the region, said on his Telegram channel .

    "Around Ugledar from the south, from the southwestern, and even the western side of the dacha is now under our control, and our units continue to develop the release of Ugledar itself," he said in a video message.


    At the same time, Pushilin noted that the situation remains difficult, since Kyiv has deployed a marine brigade to this direction, which has reinforced the units stationed there. Nevertheless, he expressed confidence that the Russian troops would be able to complete the assigned tasks, but in a slightly longer period.

    This week, the acting head of the DPR said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have entrenched themselves in Vugledar and plan to “resist” because there are a large number of industrial facilities and high-rise buildings. Volodymyr Zelenskyy, in turn, acknowledged that the situation for the Ukrainian units in the Artyomovsk and Ugledar directions was very tough. In particular, he reported on "constant Russian assaults."

    https://ria.ru/20230204/ugledar-1849793377.html

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:38 pm

    Just for the record.

    Not a single other countries ever cared about the crew's safety so much.

    Not a single submarine, made worldwide, owners the rescue chamber that is a standard for Soviet/Russian subs.

    Yet the mainstream will still feed the end receivers with stories of human wave tactics, ammo rack granted to each 5th soldier, etc ...

    Madness.

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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:47 pm

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    Post  mnztr Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:01 pm

    Pay attention, that the numbers are steadily adjusted down. Exactly as I described them weeks ago. wrote:

    Its no surprise its going down. After all Putin shut of a lot of the power and even Z is saying expect a massive Russian offensive. So if you were a civilian, of course you would leave. Life is shitty and a massive attack is coming. TIME TO GO!!!
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    Post  TMA1 Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:42 am

    Begome is right. Nazis were influenced by eugenics promoters and thinkers from the british isles and here in the states. This indeed goes back to the scientific and cultural revolutions from the late 1700s to mid 1800s. I read a book called Black Stork. Discussed the eugenics programs here in the US. Some states actually put laws on the books. Thousands of the blind, the deaf, the mentally and physically disabled were sterilized by law. You can find quotes from judges, politicians and "philanthropists" in the early 20th century coldly discussing the benefits and what pertained to the future.

    One disturbing element is eugenics never went away. Julian Huxley, brother of the guy who wrote Brave New World and part of a long family line that produced many of the darwinian and materialist thinkers in Great Britain founded the eugenics society. After ww2 eugenics went out of fashioned and later the organization changed names. Know what it is called now?

    The transhumanist society. Transhumanism IS the continuation of eugenics. Why do you think the malthusian weirdos fixate on it?

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    Post  Kiko Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:48 am

    Anytime soon!:

    WarGonzo: Armed Forces of Ukraine began to retreat after losing control over the northern quarters of Artemovsk, by Roman Otradnov for Rossiskaya Gazeta. 02.05.2023.

    The northern quarters of Artemovsk (Bakhmut is the Ukrainian name of the city) came under the control of Russian forces. The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are retreating. Information about this is published in the WarGonzo Telegram channel.

    The abandoned positions have already been occupied by Russian forces. They started cleaning up. Also under the control of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation passed part of the streets in the south of the city.


    According to military correspondents, the city was taken by Russian units into a semicircle.


    The footage of the retreat of the enemy with the comments of the Ukrainian serviceman was published by military commander Yuriy Kotenok. In the video, a detachment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine of 6-8 people.

    "We got out of this hell! Bakhmut is on fire all over. We left in small groups. Our bosses abandoned us. I tell it like it is," the Ukrainian military said.


    The soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not understand why the command is forcing them to stay in Artemovsk. "It's incredibly difficult to defend. The casualties are huge. What's the point?" - says the Ukrainian commando. According to him, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are suffering heavy losses, including among the most combat-ready units, the morale of the military is falling.

    https://rg.ru/2023/02/05/wargonzo-vsu-nachali-otstupat-posle-poteri-kontrolia-nad-severnymi-kvartalami-artemovska.html

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    Post  GarryB Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:52 am

    He was in Moscow heroically handling the Georgian invasion of South Ossetia while Putin hauled his ass to watch the summer Olympics in Beijing.

    Medvedev was in charge when Georgia attacked and it was his job to be in Moscow handling it... he and Putin had swapped positions at that point so why not let Putin enjoy the Olympics.

    Funny it is claimed Russia is banned from sports for breaking the Olympics truce yet Georgia attacked South Ossetia during the opening ceremony of the games in China and nothing happened to them... almost like it is just an excuse...

    No talk of a massive Russian advance as the Orcs withdraw and the Russians move forward cautiously into the positions they are vacating... booby traps and mines no doubt aplenty to deal with...

    Funny no mention of massive incompetence by Kiev because of these massive Russian advances...

    (Note sarcasm mode on because of claims made when the Russians withdrew because their positions could no longer be defended properly.)

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    Post  Backman Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:08 am

    I'd like to see thousands of troops surrounded and cut off. Instead of letting them slink out while other lines get built

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:59 am

    Slovanisk and Krama will be their last built up position of defense, a shame they never properly reinforced Lyman if they still held that it would have gone a long way to making the capture easier
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