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    Post  Hole Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:16 pm

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    Air defence working. Now buildings getting hit by sophisticated western missiles fired by sophisticated western air defence systems. 
    Must be those Kh-101 with extra jammers. Or jamming versions of old Kh-55.
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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:17 pm

    https://t.me/fighter_bomber/9547

    Today there was another exchange according to the formula 35 for 35

    Our pilots, who have been in enemy captivity since March, were not among them.

    Lieutenant Colonel Maxim Krishtop
    Lieutenant Colonel Sergei Kosik
    Captain Sergey Malkov

    For some reason, Khokhols do everything possible, so as not to exchange or give them away.

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:31 pm

    Are there any estimates how many "volunteers" has Kurwa Polska shipped to Ukraine? Based on field reports that has to be thousands by now.
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    Post  Hole Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:01 pm

    New reports of the takeoff of russian missile carriers (= bombers) from Engels, flying to the launch zone above the Caspian Sea.

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    Post  franco Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:47 pm

    caveat emptor Today at 12:31 pm

    Are there any estimates how many "volunteers" has Kurwa Polska shipped to Ukraine? Based on field reports that has to be thousands by now.


    Have not seen anything from a good source but twitter-bugs have reported as high as 5,000.

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:53 pm

    The Polish leadership must be incredibly 'daring' to send its regular military personnel, doesn't matter if they're all volunteers, to take on the Russian military in some bushmasters with no air-power in support and working with crazed Ukrainian generals and ultra-nationalists who think nothing about ordering the modern-day equivalent of human wave attacks or the advance at the Battle of the Somme

    I mean what's the point, the outcome won't change but you will lose your men.

    And I won't call them outright stupid, as they didn't seem eager to start WW3 with Russia just the other week. So what is the actual calculation?

    Step 3: profit??

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:06 pm

    Considering how Ruspohobe most Polacks are, it is not surprising that government can find enough fools ready to go for slaughter. I think that US highly appreciates it, as well.

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    Post  franco Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:45 pm

    My understanding is that for the most part, they are manning the Western military equipment that the Ukrainians are not trained for nor have the experience.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:56 pm

    There is hardy any system od this kind out there. Poland does not have HIMARS, nor Iris, nor NASAMS. It is hard for me to call a single more complicated type od weaponry the Ukrs get and can be manned by the Polish mercs. Sure they are there. Some have always been, Ukro nazis had connections with some od the groups here. Both were involved on drugs, prostitution and some other nice things ... Some Polish instruktora has been there for two decades. Some materiale provides a clear comm on Polish. But in most od the cases a hard evidences provided are bullshit. Polish car plates mean perfectly nothing, I explained that to you long time ago. They are just buying off road junk here, and don't bothers to register IT im Ukr. Some od the documents presented by the Russkies are so trivial as a document permitting Ukr Citizen to drive a car he does not own.
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    Post  franco Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:02 pm

    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced the release of 35 Russian servicemen from enemy captivity

    35 Russian servicemen returned from Ukrainian captivity, according to the Russian Ministry of Defense.

    The released fighters will be delivered to Moscow by military transport aircraft. The servicemen will undergo treatment and rehabilitation in medical institutions of the Russian defense department.

    All those released are provided with the necessary medical and psychological assistance.

    Earlier, on November 3,  more than 100 Russian fighters returned from Ukrainian captivity. The released servicemen immediately contacted their relatives and shared their first impressions.

    NOTE: there are apparently still 3 pilots that the Russians have been trying to get back but the Ukrainians don't seem to want to include them Suspect Makes you wonder as to the reasons.

    https://tvzvezda-ru.translate.goog/news/202211231734-Okfzm.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_pto=nui

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    Post  Isos Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:04 pm

    Pilots cost million of dollars of investment. They are valuable and will be exchanged only in a good deal.

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    Post  zorobabel Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:06 pm

    Impressive missile attacks today. It seems that with every wave, much of Ukraine's power grid gets closer to full collapse. Weather models show a strong cold front arriving in about 10 days.


    Confused by this update: https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1595467129192677376

    Not sure why defensive lines are being constructed at Svatovo. The northern flank, including Krasny Liman and Svyatogorsk will be needed to capture Slavyansk-Kramatorsk and win the battle for the Donbas.

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    Post  bandit6 Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:17 pm

    It seems there are plans in Washington for the deployment of a small, "peacekeeping/ humanitarian assistance," military force into Western Ukraine. There is a game of chicken being played and Russia will probably blink first.

    Western Ukraine will be given some kind of special status to join NATO. The US makes and breaks rules at will, there will be an exception made

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:44 pm

    @Rybar on Turkish MLRS and Turkish Politics⚡

    The Oryx news resource reports that the Turkish government has handed over or will soon send 230mm TLRG-230 MLRS along with its guided munitions to the AFU.

    The exact number of shells and launchers is unknown, but this multiple launch rocket launcher is one of the latest developments of the Turkish military industrial complex. Sending the MLRS to Ukraine will allow the weapon to be tested in intense combat conditions.

    The TLRG-230 combines well with the laser-guided Bayraktar TB2 UAVs. Another 19 drones of this type will be handed over to Ukraine in the future, see here 👉 Supplies to Ukraine. The TLRG-230's 70km hit range and target designation from the Bayraktar will increase engagement effectiveness many times over.

    In addition to MLRS, the Turks will send various REB systems, as well as Sungur guided anti-aircraft missiles, which will be integrated into the Bayraktars based on an earlier agreement with Roketsan.

    🩸 The actions of Erdogan's administration are not surprising at all. His policy has always been built on gaining the greatest benefits for himself and for Turkey as a whole. The current geopolitical situation is in his favour, so it makes no sense to expect anything different from the Turkish president


    https://t.me/sitreports/1145

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:59 pm

    Massive missile attack of the Russian Armed Forces on Ukraine: what is known at 16:00(Moscow Time)

       In the afternoon, the RF Armed Forces again launched a series of strikes on targets on Ukrainian territory. The targets were once again elements of the country's energy infrastructure.

       🔻Kiev: a series of arrivals and explosions. TETs-5 in Vydubychi and TETs-6, which were already the target of attacks in October, were preliminarily hit. In the left-bank part of the city, power outages began, water supply was completely lost, and the metro stopped working.

       🔻Nikolaev: explosions in the city, the city is de-energized. Local resources reported problems at the South Ukrainian NPP and an emergency shutdown of power units, which indirectly indicates the defeat of the 750 kV substation.

       🔻Odessa: explosions in Belyavsky district, power supply was lost throughout the region.

       🔻Dnepropetrovsk: arrivals in the vicinity of the city and in Krivoy Rog, problems with light in the region.

       🔻Zaporozhye: explosions near Volnyansk, where the Zaporizhzhya-750 substation is located. Power outages in the area.

       🔻Kirovograd: arrival near the dam in Svetlovodsk.

       🔻Vinnitsa: arrivals at the Ladyzhynska TPP, which was previously the target of Russian strikes.

       Power was also lost in the Lvov, Rivne and Volyn regions in western Ukraine, as well as in Kharkiv, Sumy, Zhytomyr, Poltava and Chernihiv. Long-term emergency power outages began across the country.

       The impact of today's raid demonstrates the cumulative effect of past Russian raids, with each successive missile strike causing a greater reduction in the resilience of the Ukrainian energy system.


    https://t.me/sitreports/1150

       Ukraine's Ukrenegro announced emergency shutdowns in all regions of Ukraine.

       💥Moldova is almost completely without electricity. Transnistria too. The mobile network is down. In Chisinau, trolleybuses have stopped and traffic lights have been turned off. There is not even light in the parliament"

       Power outage in Moldova led to problems at the checkpoint - border police

       Due to attacks, water supplies are suspended throughout Kiev - Klitschko

       Major part of the railway communication was stopped.

       Interruptions with the Internet and cellular communications continue.
       In a number of cities there are problems with water supply due to the stoppage of electric pumps.


    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/21900

       After a massive Russian strike on the Ukrainian energy infrastructure, power outages began in Moldova and Transnistria.

       In Chisinau, traffic lights turned off on the streets, electric transport stopped,and communication problems began. As Rybar ✍ wrote earlier, the root cause of the problems with the country's energy system was largely the policy of the Moldovan authorities themselves.

       Restrictions on supplies to Transnistria led to a decrease in the generation of the Moldavskaya GRES, which, with its capacity, stabilized the situation in the south of the Odessa region and fed energy-deficient Moldova.

       Apparently, this time automatic protection also worked at the power plant due to a decrease in power and increased consumption from Ukraine after the strike by the Russian Armed Forces.

       The station switched to work for its own needs, which provoked an electricity shutdown in Chisinau and other Moldovan cities.


    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/21910

    Breaking - Emergency Shutdown of Ukrainian Nuclear Power Plants⚡

    After today's massive Russian strike, media reports of problems at nuclear facilities in Ukraine immediately started pouring in.

    First the South Ukraine nuclear power plant in #Nikolaev Oblast went into emergency mode, followed later by the #Rivne and #Khmelnitsky nuclear power plants in the western part of the country.

    The most probable cause of the accident was the failure of supply substations. This led to a sharp drop in the consumers of electricity generated by the NPPs, due to which the shifts on duty were forced to shut down the reactors and put them to work for the plants' own needs.

    🩸 Today, for the first time since the EIA began, all Ukrainian nuclear power plants have been "shut down" from the country's power grid.

    It is not out of the question that power engineers will be able to put the emergency circuits back together and restart some of the nuclear plants.

    But what is happening is a good demonstration of the beginning of the disintegration of Ukraine's unified energy system into separate, independent "islands".


    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/21922


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    Post  ludovicense Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:08 pm

    Why is Ukraine still treated as a human army, with the same moral and legal treatment, despite the clear presence of Nazis and genocidal maniacs?

    Don't give me moral high ground bullshit either......


    Russia treats prisoners well who they think pose no threat. Remember that a good part of the Ukrainian army now has a large amount of conscripts that are being forced to go to the front. They don't want to fight. These people can later be integrated into the consolidated areas of Donbass or Lugansk.
    I can assure you that with professional and mercenary units the tolerance is low. Just remember how many Azovs were left......?

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:14 pm

    Too many. But that will change with time ...

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:18 pm

    What is the point of treating prisoners like dirt or torturing them?
    So they will fight harder or die rather than surrender?

    If said prisoners are mercs or neo-Nazis then by all means hold them to trial, then send them to build railways in the arctic if you can't get them exchanged for some pilots. But even if you use them as slave labour; you'll still need them to actually be healthy and nourished.

    The reason why the Ukrainians kill prisoners, film themselves doing so, and publish it - is because they believe that doing so will shake Russians' morale, or perhaps to provoke Russians in doing the same back to Ukrainian prisoners which I think may be the real objective. To solve their problem of their conscripts surrendering for them.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:27 pm

    They are doing that because being stupid nazis.

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    Post  Hole Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:47 pm

    https://thesaker.is/the-oun-russia-war-no-longer-an-smo-what-do-the-parties-want-and-what-does-the-future-hold/
    Possible explanations for Russian reticence are:
    • Russia has far greater concern and respect for civilian lives than the USA has ever had, certainly much more so than the terrorist Ukronazis – who were deliberately bombing civilian areas in Donbass for the eight years prior.

    • Complete interruption of electrical and water supplies in Ukraine will inevitably lead to the abandonment of all western Ukrainian cities and a massive exodus of at least 8 million Ukrainians to the countries West. This, along with the economic and energy hardships now afflicting Western Europe (as a result of their sanctions against Russia backfiring), will lead to massive social unrest, possibly even the collapse of some Western European countries. This horrific prospect is a massive bargaining chip that Russia holds over the West and is a huge incentive for the OUN to sue for peace now, before the worst effects of Winter set in.

    • As shown above, it will be exceedingly easy for Russia to depopulate all of Ukraine all the way to Lviv, which will achieve the goal of the demilitarisation of Ukraine. This can be achieved right now, even without a single Russian soldier crossing West of the Dnieper river. However it appears that Russia’s preferred option is to achieve demilitarisation of Ukraine without depopulation, so as not to inflict excessive hardship on their cultural kin.


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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:47 pm

    Backman wrote:^ You can't just destroy armies with bombs and more bombs. If some foreign power with deep pockets takes your entire neighbors country hostage , and brainwashes millions of them into fighting you , its not about target acquisition....

    Says who?

    Armies don't exist in parallel universe, they occupy space

    You go in, you use everything you got and you kill them all, simplest thing in the world



    Backman wrote:...If all of Mexico was taken hostage by China and China put a gun in every Mexican males hand, every American and their dog would be saying the same thing. Can't we just bomb them ? And theyd be in a similar situation

    Yes, they could just bomb them and they would

    Why wouldn’t they? What is the downside?


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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:55 pm

    ALAMO wrote:The fact that Russians understate the 404 losses is undisputed for a very long time.
    I guess that they have tried to scale down the tensions first of all, in the beginning. ...

    And by doing this they just increased tensions back home

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