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    Russian Electronics: Semiconductor and Processors #2

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    Post  Hole Sat May 04, 2024 10:55 pm

    In that resolution the building looks like 28nm.

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    Post  lancelot Sat May 04, 2024 11:29 pm

    It is a free Sentinel-2 satellite picture. So yeah the image resolution sucks.

    On Google Maps, with older but higher resolution pictures, you can see the site still under construction.

    As per the original plan the building was to be finished in 2024. And that is so.
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    Post  sepheronx Sun May 05, 2024 9:11 am

    Just an FYI as I was gonna post it but got side tracked.

    Anyway, apparently Gazprombank had signed agreement (with MCST) with already working models of ATM's using apparently what is Elbrus 8. I mean, rather overkill for an ATM but hey, what works, works. Good contract and hope to see more.

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    Post  GarryB Sun May 05, 2024 3:11 pm

    Increasing production volumes for any chip is a good thing in terms of price and uptake of new chips as they are developed.

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    Post  Hole Sun May 05, 2024 4:36 pm

    I mean, rather overkill for an ATM but hey, what works, works. 
    ATM´s will lead the revolt of robots against humans.  lol1

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    Post  thegopnik Thu May 16, 2024 4:05 am

    https://rostec.ru/news/razrabotka-rostekha-povysit-nadezhnost-i-pomekhoustoychivost-zagorizontnoy-svyazi-do-6000-km/

    Ruselectronics Holding of Rostec State Corporation has developed a technology that makes it possible to increase the reliability and noise immunity of short-wave radio communication outside the line of sight at a distance of up to 6000 km.

    The method of diversity signal reception proposed by the engineers of the Research and Production Enterprise "Polet" of the Ruselectronics holding makes it possible to organize communication simultaneously on several frequencies and condense the transmitted information without deteriorating its reliability. The new technology ensures the transmission of radio waves over a multipath channel, their reception by antenna elements separated in space and the subsequent summation of the received signals. The system can be used to improve the reliability and immunity of dual-purpose HF radio links.

    "The solution includes frequency spacing, orthogonal signals, and majority decoding. The technology was successfully tested during tests of equipment developed by RPC Polet to organize communication with aircraft located at very long distances from the control center," said Alexander Kestovich, the developer of the solution, leading researcher at RPC Polet.

    In 2024, the development of Polyot won the I.P. Kulibin Prize of the Nizhny Novgorod Region in the category "Best Invention of the Year in the Field of Electronics, Information and Communication Systems and Communications".

    NPP Polyot is one of the leading developers and manufacturers of aviation radio communications for military and civil purposes in Russia. Among the company's products are equipment for Su-57, Su-35S fighters, as well as Il-76 military transport aircraft of various modifications, as well as modernized Tu-95 and Tu-160 long-range aircraft. In addition, the company produces short- and long-distance communication equipment for the MS-21 liner.

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    Post  sepheronx Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:36 am

    I read something interesting.

    So apparently Rosatom is looking to purchase Module. The designer of the neural processors.

    But what I didn't know is that the Rosatom company NPO KIS, the semiconductor side of Rosatom, also owns half of Kraftway - probably Russias largest manyfacturer of computer components. They also own half(?) Or more of MCST, maker of the Elbrus processors.

    If this is the case and they acquire Module, then they could possibly force some kind of development of a microprocessor of both designs and then they have the manufacturing strength behind kraftway to push integrated systems.

    I wasn't aware how strong Rosatom is going in terms of the market. I said before they have the Financial means and technical means and needs for these systems.

    Consumer electronics market had dropped nearly 50% from 2022 to 2023 in Russia while production of electronics for heavy industries, military and rest have all increased a lot.

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    Post  lancelot Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:33 pm

    Syntacore updated their website:
    https://syntacore.com/

    They have the SCR6/7/9 RISC-V cores with 128-bit optional vector unit which are dual issue 12 stage superscalar cores.
    The wider issue cores they were supposedly designing are not publicly available yet.

    Syntacore is owned by YADRO. A major server hardware manufacturer in Russia. They make commercial servers.
    https://yadro.com/ru/syntacore-acquisition

    The other major RISC-V core design company, CloudBEAR, is partly owned by the same owners of Baikal.
    https://cloudbear.ru/news-baikal-investment.html

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    Post  lancelot Sun Jun 16, 2024 5:42 am

    The first Russian photolithograph was created in Zelenograd - it is suitable for producing 350 nm chips
    06/04/2024

    “We assembled and made the first domestic lithograph. It is now undergoing testing as part of the technological line in Zelenograd,” this is how an official from the Ministry of Industry announced this significant event for Russian microelectronics, on whose order the Zelenograd Nanotechnology Center (ZNTC) has been developing since 2022 . By the end of 2024, it should be completed with the creation of a prototype photolithograph for the production of microcircuits with a topological level of 350 nm. ZNTC plans to launch serial production of this equipment by the end of 2025.

    “Chips with a size of 350 nanometers, although considered large, are still used in many industries, including the automotive industry, energy and telecommunications,” TASS comments on the level of the first photolithograph.

    A photolithograph (stepper) for the production of 350 nm microcircuits is an installation weighing 3.5 tons and dimensions 2x2.6x2.5 meters (optical-mechanical device, laser lens with an operating wavelength of 365 nm) plus a control complex. Photolithography processes take place inside: individual processing of silicon wafers (150 and 200 mm in diameter) with automatic loading and unloading of them from cassettes.

    Two competitions of the Ministry of Industry and Trade for the development of domestic installations for printing microcircuits on silicon wafers ( the first with a topology level of up to 130 nm with the prospect of its subsequent modernization to a topological level of 65 nm, the second - up to 350 nm) were held in the fall of 2021. ZNTC became the winner of both as the only participant. The final contract value for the first competition was 5.7 billion rubles, for the second - almost 1 billion rubles. The development of photolithographs is one of the first projects of the state program to localize in Russia the technological chain for the production of microcircuits with topological standards of 350...130 nm using completely Russian equipment, as reported in the nanocenter.

    “As part of the project to develop a 350 nm photolithograph, we are taking a ready-made laser - a semiconductor, domestic one. Perhaps Zelenograd companies specializing in laser technologies will be able to take part in the supply of such equipment in the future; a separate competitive procedure will be held for this,” ZNTC General Director Anatoly Kovalev told Zelenograd.ru.

    ZNTC's partners in developing a photolithograph are the Russian laser manufacturer LASSARD and the Belarusian company Planar, which has retained competence in the development of photolithographs since the times of the USSR. At the beginning of 2023, ZNTC agreed with the Belarusian chip manufacturer Integral on the conditions for pre-ordering equipment for photolithography with a topology level of 350 nm.

    Today, only three companies in the world produce such equipment: the Dutch ASML, which occupies 84% ​​of the market, and two Japanese companies - Nikon and Canon. “The cost of domestic photolithographs, according to our preliminary estimates, should be lower than foreign ones,” predicted Anatoly Kovalev. “But that’s not the only important thing.” Today, the import of new photolithographic equipment to Russia is under serious restrictions, and in any case, the country needs to solve the problem of developing its own steppers, since photolithography is the basis of any technological process in microelectronics.”

    The head of the technological equipment development center and the chief designer of two R&D projects for the creation of domestic photolithographs, Dmitry Kalbazov, spoke in more detail about the progress of the development of the first Russian photolithograph in 2022 and the operating principles of this installation on the Culture TV channel.

    As for the 130-65 nm photolithograph, it is planned to develop a completely domestic laser with a wavelength of 193 nm from scratch and obtain a prototype stepper by the end of 2026.

    https://www.zelenograd.ru/news/55678/

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:25 pm

    Im so glad that Russia started investing in microelectronics! I hope industrial robotics will follow Smile




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    The first Russian photolithograph was created in Zelenograd - it is suitable for producing 350 nm chips
    06/04/2024
    Today, only three companies in the world produce such equipment: the Dutch ASML, which occupies 84% ​​of the market, and two Japanese companies - Nikon and Canon. “The cost of domestic photolithographs, according to our preliminary estimates, should be lower than foreign ones,” predicted Anatoly Kovalev.

    Current market, yes, but not exactly in the near future. SMEE is taking on ASML with 28nm tech. Generally, China is investing billions of USD in microelectronic lithography companies. The USA is trying to slow the Chinese down since they are unable to stop the progress.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:03 am

    Im so glad that Russia started investing in microelectronics! I hope industrial robotics will follow

    So basically what I took from that article is that a Russian company got together with a Belarussian company to make a new lithography machine... the Russian company has nothing to do with lasers and the laser was provided by the company from Belarus that is using technology from the Soviet era.

    I would say if they got some companies that specialise in new laser technology they could crank down the size of the lasers if they wanted to... and would likely make them rather better in every aspect.

    Regarding industrial robots the lack of skilled workers seems to be driving that with difficult and dangerous work being taken over by robots because as wages go up the cost of a robot becomes more competitive and in addition a robot can work longer hours without so many rest breaks.

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    Post  lancelot Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:50 am

    GarryB wrote:So basically what I took from that article is that a Russian company got together with a Belarussian company to make a new lithography machine... the Russian company has nothing to do with lasers and the laser was provided by the company from Belarus that is using technology from the Soviet era.
    No. The laser is provided by LASSARD. Which is a Russian laser manufacturer.
    https://lassard.ru/ru/

    Belarussian company Planar is aiding building the lithograph machine itself. Because they have experience building lithographs.
    http://www.kb-omo.by/

    Minsk used to be a major computing industry site in the Soviet Union. For example the Minsk series of computers was made there.
    https://www.computer-museum.ru/english/minsk0.htm

    Planar in Belarus continued making lithographs after the collapse of the Soviet Union. The Soviets never had 350nm level of lithography. That is on the level of the Pentium II processor.

    The Soviets were stuck at like the 3um CMOS process when they collapsed. 3um = 3000nm. And they were still using contact lithography I think.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K1839

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    Post  medo Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:25 pm

    I don't think anyone could develope whole Lithography machine in two years and this one is allready industrial one, which is now instaling in production plant. I would say they are replacing imported laser with domestic one as contract want fully dpomestic machine. For 350 nm technology, they already have domestic one and machine is build and will be now tested, for 130 to 65 nm they have to develop laser. Who knows, how many lithography machines they already produce with imported laser to increase chip production. Chinese lasers could do the job as well to counter western sanctions..
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    Post  lancelot Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:46 am

    medo wrote:I don't think anyone could develope whole Lithography machine in two years and this one is allready industrial one, which is now instaling in production plant. I would say they are replacing imported laser with domestic one as contract want fully dpomestic machine. For 350 nm technology, they already have domestic one and machine is build and will be now tested, for 130 to 65 nm they have to develop laser. Who knows, how many lithography machines they already produce with imported laser to increase chip production. Chinese lasers could do the job as well to counter western sanctions..
    Russia has been a pioneer of laser technology since the onset. I wouldn't be surprised if they could produce better lasers than the Chinese for this machine.

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