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    Russian Electronics: Semiconductor and Processors #2

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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:59 am

    Important first step in development of domestic electronics industry.
    https://ruselectronics.ru/news/24442-roselektronika-razrabotala-tekhnologiyu-polucheniya-vysokochistykh-gazov-dlya-proizvodstva-mikroelek/

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    Post  PhSt Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:47 am

    While new developments are taking place, I believe it is of utmost importance for Russia to also increase security in its semiconductor facilities, NATzO rodents will not hesitate to send sabotage groups to unleash havoc on Russia's plants to hamper Russia's advances in the semiconductor industry.

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    Post  sepheronx Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:32 am

    Most of those facilities are limited in staff due to amount of experts who need to do the work.

    The threat is more likely in the assembly shops.

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    Post  thegopnik Thu Dec 29, 2022 4:35 am

    https://rostec.ru/en/news/rostec-has-developed-unique-on-chip-micromodules/

    Ruselectronics holding has completed testing of the first Russian micromodules based on silicon chips. They are used to protect aerospace onboard electronics against overvoltage and static discharge. The solution is not inferior in its performance to foreign equivalents and is designed to phase out them on the Russian market.

    One module is as small as 3х3х1mm and includes 10 chips. Such number of components makes the micromodules suitable for aerospace vehicles to ensure overvoltage and static discharge protection of onboard computers, high-speed and dashboard interfaces, switching systems and intelligent systems.

    “Lower dimensions and weight of electronic components without compromising their reliability and performance make it possible to reduce power consumption, simplify the design and enhance the functionality of devices. Ruselectronics competence allowed us to create micromodules that are competitive with foreign equivalents and can phase out the import of foreign products,” said Oleg Evtushenko, Rostec’s Executive Director.

    Thanks to their special properties, chips grown from high-purity silicon are used in microelectronics. Atoms are arranged in them in a predictable manner which makes it possible to accurately forecast the material behavior under any electrical effect. The number of chips in a device defines the number of transistors and current-carrying components on their surface. Transistors perform all computing work and, therefore, the more transistors there are, the more powerful the device is.

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    Post  sepheronx Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:55 am

    Roselectronics has developed high-purity gas technology for microelectronics

    Holding « Roselectronics » Rostekh State Corporation has developed technologies for the production, storage and transportation of high-purity gases used in the manufacture of modern microelectronic products. Own production of high-purity gases will replace the imported materials used in the production of domestic electronic components and create high-tech products that are in demand on the market of microelectronics.

    Many special gases of the cleanliness level necessary for the microelectronic industry in Russia have not yet been manufactured. Entering « Roselectronics » NPP « Salute » has developed technologies for the industrial production of monosilan, arsine, phosphine, ammonia, trifluoride boron, trichloride.

    « High-purity gases play an important role in creating microelectronics. In the production process, up to several dozen different gases can be used, both quite conventional, such as oxygen, nitrogen, carbon dioxide, hydrogen, argon, and rather rare or toxic — fluoride, trifluoride nitrogen or boron. For example, arsine and phosphine serve to change the conductivity of the material, which allows you to regulate the electrical properties of semiconductors. Monosilan is widely used in the manufacture of substrates and technological layers of microchips. New technologies „ Roselectronics “ are designed to replace foreign materials that were used in the production of microelectronic products », — said Executive Director of Rostekh Oleg Evtushenko.

    At NPP « Salute », technologies have been created for producing gas mixtures with a certain ratio in the composition and content of the main impurities supplied in high pressure cylinders, and arsine, phosphine, trifluoride boron, delivered in low pressure cylinders.

    To solve the problem of maintaining the degree of purity of the materials obtained during their transportation and storage at the enterprise, they proposed to use special preparation of cylinders before filling with high-purity gases. This solution allows you to maintain the required purity of materials in low pressure cylinders for at least 6 months, and in high pressure cylinders — for at least 12 months.

    « Technological gases are used at every stage of the manufacture of semiconductor devices. In Russia, so far there has been no production of many special gases of the required level of purity. Our company can satisfy the needs of the Russian market for high-purity gases, and if necessary, we are ready to increase production volumes. In addition, at present, our specialists continue to improve the technologies for the production, storage and transportation of high-purity gases, and are also developing new solutions for obtaining materials for microelectronics », — said the general director of NPP « Salute » Alexander Bushuev.

    NPP « Salute » as part of « Roselectronics » is engaged in the development and manufacture of ultra-high-frequency equipment.

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    https://ruselectronics.ru/news/24442-roselektronika-razrabotala-tekhnologiyu-polucheniya-vysokochistykh-gazov-dlya-proizvodstva-mikroelek/

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    Post  Kiko Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:06 pm

    Don't know where to put this, so I'll post it here:

    "A gift to the USA": Taiwan opposition accuses the government of handing over the largest microchip company.

    Taiwan's main opposition party accused President Tsai Ing-wen of "giving away" the world's largest microchip company to the United States, the Taiwan News online newspaper reported. Opponents believe that building a factory in Arizona will "ruin" the company and lead to the flight of its talents.

    Representatives of the Kuomintang party — Taiwan's main opposition force advocating closer ties with mainland China — recalled that it was during their party's rule that the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (TSMC) company was created, which has become a kind of "silicon umbrella" protecting the island from invasions.

    "With a TSMC factory in the USA, [the American technology giant] Intel will be able to obtain the necessary technology to equate the production of its chips to the level of the Taiwanese company," warns Deputy Tseng Ming-chung.

    As for the talent drain, the legislator believes that Intel's salary level, which is 3-5 times higher than TSMC's, will cause the Taiwanese company's engineers to move to the United States. Tseng called on President Tsai's administration to propose a plan to retain TSMC and protect Taiwan's silicon umbrella.

    TSMC announced that it will invest 40,000 million dollars in the construction of a factory in Arizona and has already transferred 1,000 engineers to the USA, while another 2,000 will head there next year, recalled another Kuomintang deputy Alex Fai. In his words, Washington forced the Tsai Ing-wen administration to hand over the enterprise under the pretext of preventing advanced technology from falling into the hands of the Chinese Communist Party.

    "TSMC could disappear with the brain drain and "With a TSMC factory in the USA, [the American technology giant] Intel will be able to obtain the necessary technology to equate the production of its chips to the level of the Taiwanese company," warns Deputy Tseng Ming-chung.

    As for the talent drain, the legislator believes that Intel's salary level, which is 3-5 times higher than TSMC's, will cause the Taiwanese company's engineers to move to the United States. Tseng called on President Tsai's administration to propose a plan to retain TSMC and protect Taiwan's silicon umbrella. loss of jobs, as well as the consequences for the island. What will be left for Taiwan then?," concluded Fai.

    At the beginning of December, TSMC announced its plans to build a second factory in Arizona, USA. This marks a big turn in the company's policy because before all the company's bases were located in Taiwan.

    This is happening while European companies are moving their production to the USA due to high energy prices. At the beginning of 2022, the Danish jewelry company Pandora and the German car manufacturer Volkswagen announced that they would expand their production in the United States. Even the American Tesla suspended its plans for battery production in Germany, as it expects to receive tax breaks under the inflation reduction law adopted in mid-2022 by US lawmakers.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:26 am

    Sounds like the US wants to evacuate the valuable production capacity out of their Asian Ukraine before they start the conflict in Asia they want to damage China the way the started a war in Europe to try to damage Russia.

    I suspect they will be as unsuccessful in this as they have been at everything else recently.

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    Post  Kiko Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:48 am

    China sees Russian military technology as 'key' in new semiconductor arms race, 01.17.2023.

    The United States ' dispute with China in the semiconductor field has been classified as the new arms race of this century, an allusion that dates back to the Cold War period. According to an expert heard by Sputnik Brasil, Russia is a cornerstone for the military development of the Asian country.

    U.S. concerns about China's rise as a superpower on the board of global geopolitics are no longer exactly a state secret.

    From the ostensible presence of the US Armed Forces in the Indo-Pacific to the sneaky visit of Nancy Pelosi, former Speaker of the House of the country, to Taiwan (a gesture that was even much criticized in the West), the concept of Cold War 2.0 is becoming increasingly crystalline.

    But it is in the restrictions on China's access to U.S. semiconductor technology, a clear attempt to thwart Beijing's effort to develop its own chip industry and advance its military capabilities, that the new arms race of the 21st century is observed.

    On the one hand, there are huge investment promises from chipmakers in the US, which have increased over the past 18 months. On the other, there is the Chinese government investing massively in small technology companies in the country as state policy.

    This escalation has been compared to the Cold War-era investments in the space race, which brings in its bulge the implications on global technological and geopolitical leadership, especially in the aspect of developing products ranging from smartphones to advanced defense systems.

    Elias Jabbour, an economist and professor at the State University of Rio de Janeiro (UERJ) and author of the books "China: socialism of the XXI century" and "Socialist Economic Development in the 21st Century — a Century after the Bolshevik Revolution", assesses that China has achieved a degree of monetary sovereignty in a dimension"that allows it to practically burn money in the public square, in the sense of reaching the technological frontier in the semiconductor infrastructure".

    "The first point is that China is using absurd monetary sovereignty. And on it, for example, the state financed the emergence of 2 thousand startups for semiconductor infrastructures two years ago or so. So a number of initiatives have been created and [...] culminated, for example, not only in the recent announcement that China was able to make this 7-nanometer chip, but also in the most difficult, which is to achieve the scale to produce it. China has conditions, given the size of its domestic market; that is, the world needs it. There is the size of its domestic market, its financial capacity and the ability to concentrate effort in one place. A place that, in turn, is a very centralized socialist state," he notes.

    According to Jabbour, China must catch up with the Americans in the medium term when it comes to these technologies.

    He explains that one of the great obstacles of the United States is precisely "financialization", that is, capitalist exchange mediated by the market.

    That is, what in theory would throw the technological frontier ahead is the element that slows down technological development in the United States.

    "I think China is using this artifice to be able to address this issue. Apart from the fact that it is importing engineers, offering [salaries] four to five times higher than Korean and Taiwanese engineers earn in their places of origin. That is, it is a war in all possible and imaginable aspects and that can even lead to a military war. Then it would be the last American alternative to stop China, which is not out of the horizon, in my opinion."

    What about Russia?

    For the UERJ professor, it is clear that Russia is already a major supplier of raw materials to China.

    "By the way, Russia is perhaps the only country in the world that has all the elements of the periodic table on its territory," he recalls.

    He argues for the hypothesis that Russia was "incorporated" into Chinese economic territory, a process that accelerated during the Ukraine conflict.

    "Not that Russia has become a kind of' Chinese colony', on the contrary. Because China also substitutes imports, that is, there is a simultaneous import substitution process on both sides. So military cooperation tends to increase between Russia and China, as well as energy cooperation. That is, in all aspects of economic life the two sides have strengthened their relations. So it is clear that in this case exports of raw materials from Russia to China will increase, and a lot," he predicts.

    Jabbour explains that the Russian technology industry is concentrated in the military sector. In fact, he continues, It is an area in which China is still "very needy and lags far behind the United States."

    "And it is in this aspect that the perfect marriage happens: between the money accumulated by the Chinese over their foreign exchange reserves and the need to import Russian technology. So Russian military technology is key for China today. It all revolves around the transfer of technology from Russia to China in the military sector. Perhaps this is the great update that the Ukrainian conflict offers to China: the complementation of its own war industry with Russian technology, which is much superior to Chinese," he concludes.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:07 am

    As long as it is a mutual exchange with mutual benefits.

    What Russia needs from China isn't just money but is to cover their weaknesses and support on the technologies were Russia is still in need of development.

    of course money is useful, also to finance all the development, but they get that also from selling them gas, and Russia shall not give China technologies and capabilities in exchange for money, but in exchange for different technologies and capabilities and maybe in help setting up new advanced semiconductor fabrication plants and also production of advanced polylitographt system independent from ASML.


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    Post  kvs Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:42 pm

    In spite of all the YouTube masturbation by NATzO fanbois, China is near deployment of high resolution IC production equipment at
    a level no worse than ASML.

    Russia needs to get its act together and deploy the talent and research base it has to develop such equipment as well. I see the
    slow progress on this front as internal sabotage. People can laugh and call this tin foil, but it is just too systematic for it to be
    natural. The divorce from NATzO will hopefully undo this since the excuse that it is too expensive to invest in domestic equipment
    development can no longer fly.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:32 am

    "Not that Russia has become a kind of' Chinese colony', on the contrary. Because China also substitutes imports, that is, there is a simultaneous import substitution process on both sides. So military cooperation tends to increase between Russia and China, as well as energy cooperation.

    Exactly... what Russia and China and BRICS are fighting for is not to become the colonial power to replace the west, but to break the colonial power cycle that the west grew fat on and does not want to give up... they will give up every last ukrainian soldier to do so... not so many of their own though... and when it gets cold and stuff gets expensive they might not have such a strong position any more...

    But for China and Russia and the rest of the world who cares... Russia and China and the other BRICS countries together don't need the west for anything... they can manage on their own... and in fact do better because it will be real cooperation and open trade that everyone benefits from and not just the few.

    Russia has food and raw materials and energy and also technology in the areas of energy, but there are a lot of areas they could probably boost, like medicine (and bio warfare considering the US has such huge programmes all over the place they can't afford to get left behind), but in electronics I think they should not just try to catch up.

    Their policy over the last decade and a bit (since 2008 or so) was to massively upgrade what they use in their military now to solve all their perceived problems and issues, but in parallel also develop a from scratch new solution that is a new generation and has more growth potential and modularity etc etc.

    A similar approach to electronics and optics and radar and EM equipment etc would be interesting... and profitable.

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    Post  andalusia Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:13 am

    Just saw these two articles from the Jacobin about Semiconductor politics of the United States:


    https://jacobin.com/2023/02/chip-war-chris-miller-book-review-semiconductor-manufacturing-us-china-competition



    https://jacobin.com/2022/02/silicon-chips-intel-taiwan-tsmc-supply-chains-prices
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    Post  Kiko Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:12 pm

    Don't know where to put this so I'll insert it here:

    US hands Koreans unleashed a chip war against China, by Yuri Zainashev for VZGLYAD. 03.01.2023.

    In modern conditions, whoever produces the most advanced microchips owns the world. To prevent Beijing from catching up, Washington warned that it would ban the production of this product in China. But it was in the Celestial Empire that the Internet giants launched the production of chips. It's funny that the giants themselves belong to a third country - Korea. But America does not seem to care about Korean sovereignty.

    US Deputy Secretary of Commerce Alan Esteves said that Washington is likely to limit the number of modern semiconductors produced by South Korean firms in China. This was reported by radio KBS WORLD . It is noteworthy that Estevez made such an unpleasant statement for the Korean audience at a joint forum of the two countries, organized in Washington by the Korean Foundation for International Exchanges and the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS).

    This is not the first time Estevez has called for preventing advanced, "sensitive" military technology from getting into Beijing's hands. In the name of "protecting U.S. national security," he has previously called for limits on "China's ability to use artificial intelligence, advanced computing, and other commercially available technologies for military modernization and human rights violations."

    Last fall, the US government prohibited its companies and citizens from selling semiconductors made using American technology to China without obtaining a license. This happened shortly after President Joe Biden signed into law the US National Security Strategy, which cited rising Chinese power and Russia's "imperial ambitions" as the main threats.

    From now on, any trade in semiconductors with partners in the PRC must be approved by Washington. However, as Kommersant wrote , a few days later, the US authorities took a step back. Temporarily - for a period of only a year - they allowed two Korean companies to continue to produce high-tech semiconductors in China. One of the companies is the world-famous Samsung Electronics, which owns a factory in Xi'an, China. The second was Hynix - a company that specializes in the production of semiconductor memory, the world's third largest chip manufacturer (after Intel and the same Samsung). This Korean giant owns a factory in the Chinese city of Wuxi.

    And now, answering the question of a conference in Washington, what will happen in the fall, after the end of the annual delay, Estevez said: it is likely that the production of semiconductors will still be limited again. More precisely, we can talk about the technological level of the manufactured chips (that is, they will be allowed to continue producing more primitive ones, and prohibiting the production of advanced ones). Estevez added that consultations are underway with relevant companies on this issue, since Washington would like to minimize the losses from such bans for firms in Korea and other friendly countries.

    Estevez made it clear that the severity of future bans depends on the behavior of China itself. In other words, he hopes that the "chip blockade" will become one of the levers of pressure on Beijing from Washington.

    It is clear that Estevez's threats are in no way compatible with the interests of South Korea, because this country is connected with the Celestial Empire by many ties, Alexander Zhebin, a leading researcher at the Center for Korean Studies at the Institute of China and Modern Asia of the Russian Academy of Sciences, believes. “Suffice it to recall that the country's trade turnover with the PRC exceeds its combined trade turnover with the United States and Japan. If South Korea loses China as a trading partner, as a market for exporting its products, then this will have unpredictable consequences for the Korean economy,” the expert said.

    “Individual politicians express annoyance at bans, such as those mentioned by the American deputy minister, but they all end up with the same thing - then the same politicians start begging Washington to enter into negotiations with them about whether some concessions can be made , delays. This was the case, in particular, recently with the US Inflation Control Act , which directly hit Korean electric car manufacturers. In general, Seoul, as a junior ally, is forced to take into account Washington's demands. Even when he doesn’t quite agree, he acts as America wants,” Zhebin explained.

    Seoul cannot but remember the bad experience of 2016, when it agreed to host a battery of the American missile defense system on its territory, Zhebin is sure. “It is clear that the battery was aimed primarily at China. In response, China stopped the flow of its tourists, introduced a number of other measures from the arsenal of economic blockade. The Koreans were outraged, but the outrage was more ostentatious. After all, many of them understood that Seoul itself is to blame," the Korean scholar believes.

    In general, the expert is convinced that Seoul politicians and businessmen will also seek concessions in the case of chips, ask for an extension of the “transition period”, and so on, and it will be more and more difficult to do this against the backdrop of the growing confrontation between the United States and China.

    “The military-political elite of South Korea was brought up by the Americans, so they also experience fear of the growing power of China. She is sure that only in a bundle in the United States will Koreans be able to survive. But at the same time, Seoul does not want to part with the profitable production of chips either. Cooperation with China is too profitable. So quickly, Seoul will not get away from Chinese economic dependence,” Zhebin emphasizes.

    So far, Beijing has bought $350 billion worth of chips a year from the US, South Korea and Japan. And under the conditions of sanctions, it may face an acute shortage of them, BFM.ru reported earlier . After all, China is still far from "semiconductor sovereignty", although the Communist Party set such a goal for 2025. Technological lag behind the leading manufacturers remains.

    Meanwhile, the US set out to forge a technological alliance that already included Japan and the island of Taiwan. The goal is to squeeze China out of the global cycle of manufacturing and selling chips and at the same time provide itself with semiconductors. South Korea has also been proposed to join the coalition, but it seems to be hesitating so far.

    According to German Klimenko, former adviser to the President of Russia on the development of the Internet, chairman of the board of the Digital Economy Development Fund, South Korea, on the one hand, must take into account the interests of the United States, but on the other, being an Asian country, it tries to maintain harmonious relations with its neighbors, that is, to withstand balance.

    “But maintaining a balance in the world is now generally extremely difficult. Our SVO provoked sharp gestures from various powers, ” said Klymenko. As you know, before the world was divided according to who has natural reserves - oil, gas, coal, and so on, the expert recalled. “Now the world is changing rapidly. We still do not fully understand who will ultimately depend on what. It is only clear that the race in the field of microelectronics and artificial intelligence has begun. Whoever wins it will probably rule the world, as Vladimir Vladimirovich said, ” said the former adviser to the president.

    Against this background, the satellite countries have one task - to join someone. “The peoples of Asia have a long historical memory. Yes, Koreans and Chinese have a relationship like a cat and a dog. However, both of them seem to consider themselves, if not to one ethnic group, then at least to a kindred one, so they are trying to get along, ”Klimenko explained to the VZGLYAD newspaper. “It is impossible to predict who will take sides in the coming years. The stakes are too high. I do not rule out that in the end South Korea will fall away from Washington and take the side of Beijing. By the way, racial or ethnic community will not necessarily be the main criterion - perhaps the main one will be technological superiority.

    So far, there are products in the high-tech sector that Beijing cannot produce, the expert admits. “However, the Chinese are ready to solve a huge layer of tasks themselves. The history of the Middle Kingdom says that they are very stubborn. They have traveled in the IT industry in 20 years the path that we have traveled in 30. If China is not stopped now, it will either overtake the United States or find itself in good parity with them. At parity in any area, including semiconductors. And if the Chinese manage to do it, then the neighbors of the Celestial Empire will simply have no other choice but to join it", concluded Klimenko.

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    Post  lancelot Fri Mar 03, 2023 1:57 am

    For the case of SK Hynix this is not just a couple of fabs. Most of their existing capacity to fabricate memory is in China.
    Not just in Wuxi but also in Chongqing.

    While SK Hynix is building leading edge facilities to produce memory in South Korea, most of their existing ones are in China, and they still have not been ammortized properly.

    Samsung also has huge fabs in China but they also have fabs in South Korea and the US so they would be less impacted.
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    Post  Kiko Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:00 am

    Less is better. Which industry has been helped by the sanctions?, by Nadezhda Sarapina for RIANOVOSTI. 03.11.2023.

    Due to Western sanctions, capacities were freed up for the production of silicon wafers needed in microelectronics. This year they will be manufactured at the Krasnoyarsk enterprise Germanium. And in 2024, they will also master the production of a product that can compete with Chinese counterparts. How the industry is developing - in the material of RIA Novosti.

    There is no bad without good

    No country in the world has a fully autonomous microelectronics industry. Each major market player creates products that, in fact, have no analogues. For example, the Dutch company ASML has a virtual monopoly on photolithographic installations. And the Belgian plant 3M produces 80 percent of the coolant for etching silicon wafers. As for final chips and processors, there are three leaders - Taiwanese TSMC, Korean Samsung Electronics and American Intel.

    Russia makes military microchips on its own, but civilian products are forced to be purchased abroad. For example, Baikal, MCST, Yadro and STC Module designed the chips and submitted the terms of reference to TSMC Corporation. Now the collaboration has ended.

    While the Chinese are helping out. At the same time, due to the decrease in exports and the load on enterprises in Russia, the possibility of producing their own semiconductors has opened up. In particular, the Krasnoyarsk Germanium was rebuilt. “In the 1980s, we specialized in silicon production, we still had growing furnaces, and now we have freed up machining equipment,” explains research engineer Daria Kolosova.

    "The plates for the defense industry are smaller - 100-150 millimeters, and the quality requirements are lower than for civilian products: they need plates with a diameter of 150-200 millimeters. Demand is only increasing, in two years it will grow two to three times," - says the expert.

    From idea to realization

    Localization of production is a long-term and difficult task. It took China 20 years, TSMC - 30. Professor of the Department of Semiconductor Electronics and Semiconductor Physics of NUST MISiS, Doctor of Technical Sciences Petr Lagov draws attention to the fact that foreign companies do not sell their latest developments. What is shared, as a rule, is two or three generations behind the leading samples.

    “Great prospects are now opening up in the field of precision microelectronic engineering. It must be gradually restored, starting with relatively simple things and up to advanced lithographic complexes, as well as ion doping equipment,” he says.

    One of the most important areas is the creation of high-purity single-crystal silicon and high-quality semiconductor wafers. “We are good at growing silicon for solar energy. If we set specific tasks and allocate funding, we will get electronic,” says Arkady Naumov, head of the Astron Design Bureau, expert of the Commission for Scientific and Technological Development under the Russian government.

    Germania engineers are now selecting materials for work and preparing a mock-up sample of the plate. “In the next couple of weeks, we will start. We will cut a silicon ingot, conduct experiments, obtain and polish a wafer. Our goal is to clarify the technical characteristics and work out the process,” says Kolosova.

    There are difficulties - for example, there is not enough equipment for final measurements and certification of plates. However, the enterprise will not involve outside companies. “We mainly worked with germanium, but in terms of its physicochemical properties it is close to silicon, so we expect to manage on our own,” the specialist notes.

    Germanium plans to reach full capacity in a year. Industrial expert Leonid Khazanov is sure that this time will be enough to purchase equipment to control the accuracy and quality of products.

    "The resuscitation and development of its own radio-electronic industry, which was seriously damaged in the 1990s, is already underway and will gain momentum. Of course, significant financial investments will be required. But, as the experience of the 1930s shows, the USSR built factories, factories and combines under the most severe economic blockade Nevertheless, everything worked out," the expert recalls.

    Markets

    Ivan Pokrovsky, Executive Director of the Association of Electronics Developers and Manufacturers (ARPE), believes that domestic demand is still small and it is necessary to focus on exports. "Such projects can be implemented only after agreeing technical and economic requirements with customers - semiconductor wafers do not begin to be produced if deliveries to microcircuit or semiconductor device manufacturers are not planned," he explains.

    Enterprises specializing in the production of semiconductor products - Mikron, NM-Tech, NZPP - Vostok - order wafers in China. Price - from 50 to 90 dollars apiece. “It is unprofitable for us to sell below $50, the products will cost in the range of $50-70, the offer is quite competitive,” says Daria Kolosova.

    At the same time, it is necessary to earn the trust of customers, the expert emphasizes. “Of course, at first they will buy small lots compared to the goods of Chinese suppliers. But when they see us as a reliable partner, the volumes will increase,” Kolosova concludes.

    The semiconductor market is extremely promising. Plates with a diameter of 150-200 millimeters are used to create high-speed microprocessors, which are not yet assembled in Russia. Independent production will not only make it possible to produce our own equipment from kettles to space satellites, but will also open up opportunities for research and modernization in this area.

    https://ria.ru/20230311/kremniy-1856802002.html

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    Post  sepheronx Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:25 pm

    Maybe translation error but Russia builds on 200mm diameter plates. It's 300mm they don't.

    Unless they mean that they don't make the plates themselves..
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    Post  lancelot Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:47 pm

    Russia is just able to make 150mm silicon wafers out of silicon crystal right now. They have fabrication facilities which can fabricate semiconductors on top of 200mm wafers, but the wafers (the substrate) need to be imported. The article is discussing Russian efforts to make those wafers out of silicon crystal inside Russia.

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    Post  Swgman_BK Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:35 pm

    Is there any progress regarding developments of semiconductors in Russa? Especially the Lithography machine?

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    Post  thegopnik Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:11 pm

    no idea but this popped up in my morning recommendations.



    I will open my bottle of champaign early assuming the Russians have overcome their fear starting a MMIC production lines before the turks overcome their fears of producing domestic engines for aircrafts and tanks. Any Russian translator please tell me this is good news what Putin is saying.

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    Post  lancelot Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:37 am


    Kind of relevant, problems with sourcing old chips for military uses in the US.
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    Post  Kiko Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:31 am

    Beijing should secretly move on towards attracting ASML chip manufacturing engineers and technicians by means of appropriate salaries and career prospects in a prosperous and full of future country such as China.
    Experience gained with the TSMC absorption should be of great value.

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    Post  andalusia Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:51 am

    US would destroy taiwan semiconductor factories to prevent China taking over them:


    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-would-destroy-taiwan-semiconductor-factories-avoid-china-trump-adviser-2023-3


    https://time.com/6219318/tsmc-taiwan-the-center-of-the-world/


    I hope both Russia and China are making progress to improve the ability to make semiconductors and become less dependent on the West and its allies.

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    Post  lancelot Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:34 am

    If the US does not allow China to buy chips from Taiwan, why should China care if they blow up the factories or not?
    Just denying them to the US would be enough. And it would take probably a decade for the US to replace the missing capacity at the cost of many hundreds of billions of dollars.

    China is building their own fabs so they will not be needing TSMC to make the most common chips. As for the more modern ones, it would be for them like if chip technology regressed by a decade, i.e. no big deal. Chip technology just does not advance at the rate it used to anyway. You would still be able to manufacture all consumer electronics with no problem.

    Since cost per transistor has been either flat or up for like a decade, you simply do not get any cost advantage from manufacturing at smaller nodes anymore. You get more compact and possibly lower power electronics, but they won't be any cheaper and might in fact be more expensive. That is part of why things like graphics cards keep getting more expensive.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:46 am

    Springs to mind... "With friends like these, who needs enemies..."

    Hopefully Taiwan might realise they are dealing with the devil...

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    Post  lancelot Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:32 pm

    Tour of Mikron foundry, talk with STC Module fabless chip company, and tour of a facility for making surface mounted boards.

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