Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30

franco wrote:
Not true in so many ways.
1 - commander of the Central MD not the Northern MD
2 - successful in Syria, liberated Palmaria
3 - took over command of the Russian forces in Luhansk and Kharkov from the Western MD commander when he faltered. Liberated Severodonetsk / Lysychans'k, Popasna and I believe he was in command of liberating Lyman and possibly Izyum.

franco wrote:Read somewhere but cannot locate now that 4 were destroyed out at sea, 1 detonated against the antisubmarine net and another damaged (?) the minesweeper while being destroyed... that leaves one and obviously it was accounted for somehow.

limb wrote:Im quite angry that lapin was dismissed. its clear that he was a scapegoat who was given an impossible task with insufficient resources, i.e holding liman while the western military district was twiddling its thumbs and abandoning the northern flank.

People have to remember that Lapin is from the central military district. The guys defending liman, izyum, kupyansk were all Western military district, i.e. the court parade divisions. These are the bozos who lost entire columns and abandoned dozens of modern tanks and BMPs to the ukrainians around kharkov. Not Lapin. These are the guys who got routed around kupyansk. Also the western military district Tamanskaya division just left its mobilized to freeze, their commanders calling them cannon fodder. No western military district commander has been eliminaed from his post, despite that district causing by far the most fuckups.

franco wrote:
Wrong again, the Western MD commander was replaced with one of the Eastern MD Army commanders.

ALAMO wrote:Anyway as we can see, Ukrs are nothing more than stronger ISIS created to harm the opposite states in substitute of the slave masters.

par far wrote:How would you deal with it?

ALAMO wrote:Russia is suspending the "grain deal", that was announced by the MoD.
Seems we know where was the control&command of those drones now.

Hole wrote:
Going head-to-head Daesh fighters are propably more motivated. 

RTN wrote:More embarrassment for the Russian Navy. A Ukrainian naval drone has attacked and damaged the Admiral Makarov Project 11356 frigate.

Such drones can be targeted by CIWS like AK-630 if sensors can detect them. Yet the Russian Navy failed, indicate huge gaps in the Russian OpSec and general awareness around their vessels

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1586358375389884417?s=20&t=ed0I12D6Z31-fqewZCrPMg

Stealthflanker wrote:I'm kinda worried about Makarov.
The drone can pack some 100-200 Kg of warhead. and nowadays warships are flimsy. But anyway i'm curious about Local Sevastopol.. one of them might put video.

limb wrote:Why didnt the frigate shoot at the drone with its CIWS?

Isos wrote:If it was damaged or sunk, they will have to launch Kinzhals at QE 2 carriers and sink them.

No other answer would be enough.

Those drones are not made by ukraine and certainly not manned since they need relays that only nato has.

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:

Isos wrote:If it was damaged or sunk, they will have to launch Kinzhals at QE 2 carriers and sink them.

No other answer would be enough.

Those drones are not made by ukraine and certainly not manned since they need relays that only nato has.

Please no. The British aircraft carriers are useless and ensure that Britain will not have a properly functioning navy for a long while. Sinking those will only bring benefits to UK. If they have to sink a british ship better sink a destroyer. Less impact for PR but more effective in damaging their navy capabilities.

Anyway the proper answer is remove the access to the sea for Ukraine (liberate Nikolaev and Odessa) and remove land access to north western Ukraine (enter from South western Bielorussia and occupy the border).

The problem is that in addition to the border with Poland (and smaller borders with slovakia and Hungary) there is also a large border with Romania...