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    Post  limb Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:11 am

    I don't really care about accusations about Lapin being incompetent, but I'm worried that its true that he threatened mobilized troops with a gun for retreating due to lack of any support. O group also implies the guy has a short temper. Also there are accusations that those mobilized who suffered heavy casaulties, after being threatened by lapin, were left without any orders, and wagnerites who were supposed to command them just started insulting them and calling them traitors.

    BTW if russia shoots down that shitty US global hawk would that actually trigger Article 5? On what grounds would that cause the US to declare war on russia, despite it already being a party to the conflict by using these drones to control ukrainian suicide drones.
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    Post  kvs Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:14 am

    Where were the air and sea drones launched from? Odessa? From one of the "grain" carrying ships?

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:24 am

    They get some submersible toys from the Brits, it was included in the donation lists if I remember.
    The ones destroyed a while ago (one captured) were of Turkish origin.
    It is one big testing ground for everyone, same applies to NASAM and IRIS.
    Nobody sane claims it will turn the tide in any way, they just want to check that for real.
    As for now, this check is not much in favor...

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    Post  Serberus Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:27 am

    ◽ The preparation of this terrorist act and the training of military personnel of the Ukrainian 73rd Special Center for Maritime Operations were carried out under the guidance of British specialists located in the city of Ochakov, Nikolaev region of Ukraine.
    ◽ According to available information, representatives of this unit of the British Navy took part in the planning, provision and implementation of a terrorist attack in the Baltic Sea on September 26 of this year. on blowing up the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines

    We have the Russian mod outright state that the Anglo  Nazis have committed an act of war against  Russia, with regards to todays attack and the pipeline, yet zero response… all this will do is invite more and bigger attacks, as Russia remains passive.. Has anyone in Russia got any fucking balls left when it comes to dealing with the western scum? What is the point of even saying it, if you’re willing to take it up the ass, at least stfu about it

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    Post  Mir Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:42 am

    Serberus wrote:
    We have the Russian mod outright state that the Anglo  Nazis have committed an act of war against  Russia, with regards to todays attack and the pipeline, yet zero response… all this will do is invite more and bigger attacks, as Russia remains passive.. Has anyone in Russia got any fucking balls left when it comes to dealing with the western scum? This is becoming a circus. What is the point of even saying it,if you’re gonna take it up the ass, at least stfu about it

    Terrorist acts against Russia will continue - they can only do so much to prevent it and I'm sure the FSB are doing a great job. The thing is Russia doesn't have to do much as lots of Nazi scum will die this winter anyway and the anti-Russian leadership in the EU will have a hard time justifying their continued support for the [F]Ukrs with skyrocketing energy prices.

    https://www.rt.com/news/565552-czech-protestors-demand-pm-resign/

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    Post  franco Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:44 am

    Reports that a Russian minesweeper (Ivan Golubets) may have been damaged in the underwater drone attacks.

    EDIT: added link

    https://avia-pro.net/news/v-rezultate-utrenney-ataki-dronov-v-krymu-okazalsya-povrezhdyon-boevoy-korabl-ivan-golubec


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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:56 am

    ahmedfire wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:   
       ▪ Kievskaya 750kV substation - autotransformer hit confirmed
       ▪ Belotserkovskaya 330kV substation - probable damage
    🩸 Today's strike on the Kievskaya 750 substation has had a far greater impact in terms of efficiency than all previous strikes on the Kiev power grid combined.
    ➖ At least one single-phase 750/330kV autotransformer was destroyed. The shields separating the single-phase autotransformers from each other may have protected the other transformers from damage, but the destruction of at least one of the three renders the remaining two useless.

    Targeting the 750Kv subs is a big escalation , if Russia continues on that track Ukraine will be forced to put nuclear power reactors into cold mode ,their network to supply EU with electricity through the 750Kv network will  shutdown permanently .Honestly i thought Russia will use that card only if Ukraine targeted the dam or the bridge again .
    [img]https://i.servimg.com/u/f23/20/21/20/02/ffr6qq10.jpg

    Why wait?

    It's coming anyway, do it now and don't waste time



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    Post  par far Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:57 am

    limb wrote:I don't really care about accusations about Lapin being incompetent, but I'm worried that its true that he threatened mobilized troops with a gun for retreating due to lack of any support. O group also implies the guy has a short temper. Also there are accusations that those mobilized who suffered heavy casaulties, after being threatened by lapin, were left without any orders, and wagnerites who were supposed to command them just started insulting them and calling them traitors.

    BTW if russia shoots down that shitty US global hawk would that actually trigger Article 5? On what grounds would that cause the US to declare war on russia, despite it already being a party to the conflict by using these drones to control ukrainian suicide drones.

    Do you have any links to the things you said about the mobiled troops?

    I don't believe that because high command would have come down hard, if that happened.

    Also Wanger group are also volunteers, I have read before that the leader of the Wanger group said nobody touches the volunteers because they are there on their will.

    I am not accusing you of anything, I would just be very surprised if that happened.

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    Post  par far Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:00 am

    Elon Musk's Starlink has been hijacked by the US military, it is be used in Ukraine and there talks it will be used in other countries as well.

    What can be done to **** this system? Does Russia or China have the technology to block communications on Starlink, where it becomes useless?

    How would you deal with it?



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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:01 am

    Serberus wrote:...What is the point of even saying it, if you’re willing to take it up the ass, at least stfu about it

    Amen on this

    Oh, and UK also has gas pipelines, just putting it out there


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    Post  ALAMO Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:03 am

    franco wrote:Reports that a Russian minesweeper (Ivan Golubets) may have been damaged in the underwater drone attacks.

    They are using pics of the burning tires at the marine training ground as a backup for the "destruction of Bllack Sea Fleet flagman".
    It should already give us a hint about the scale of the next outstanding success.

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    Post  Isos Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:15 am

    Anyone can Id the targets ?

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    Post  Mir Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:27 am

    @Isos

    Saw your post "offline". Looks like a Buk.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:01 am

    Buk and M777

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:02 am

    🇷🇺⚡According to preliminary data, Alexander Lapin, who commanded the group of Russian troops "O" in the Northern Military District, was removed from his post.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:05 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇷🇺⚡According to preliminary data, Alexander Lapin, who commanded the group of Russian troops "O" in the Northern Military District, was removed from his post.

    Who is he? What did he f*ck up specifically?

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    Post  Isos Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:10 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇷🇺⚡According to preliminary data, Alexander Lapin, who commanded the group of Russian troops "O" in the Northern Military District, was removed from his post.

    Who is he? What did he f*ck up specifically?


    Everywhere he commanded, ukrainian achieved successes.

    The tchetchen leader hates him.
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    Post  famschopman Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:30 am

    franco wrote:

       "As a result of the operational measures taken by the forces of the Black Sea Fleet, all air targets were destroyed," Igor Konashenkov, official representative of the military department, said at a briefing.

    It only mentions air target being taken out, but doesn’t mention the sea drones. Question

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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:38 am

    par far wrote:
    Do you have any links to the things you said about the mobiled troops?

    I don't believe that because high command would have come down hard, if that happened.

    Also Wanger group are also volunteers, I have read before that the leader of the Wanger group said nobody touches the volunteers because they are there on their will.

    I am not accusing you of anything, I would just be very surprised if that happened.
    It was posted on the official tg account of Rusich. They are nationalists. Closely aligned with Wagner. It is very possible was only bullshit and part of the organized campaign against Lapin. It doesn't matter anymore, as he is dismissed.
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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:40 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇷🇺⚡According to preliminary data, Alexander Lapin, who commanded the group of Russian troops "O" in the Northern Military District, was removed from his post.

    Who is he? What did he f*ck up specifically?

    Lapin is/was in command of Central Military district. One of his units was involved in Belogorovka crossing.
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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:47 am

    famschopman wrote:

    It only mentions air target being taken out, but doesn’t mention the sea drones. Question
    Other sources mention nine air drones and 7 sea drones.

    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/29/10/2022/635d062a9a7947d46b55d1b2?from=article_body

    Also, minesweeper Ivan Golubets suffered minor damage.
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    Post  famschopman Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:58 am

    caveat emptor wrote:
    famschopman wrote:

    It only mentions air target being taken out, but doesn’t mention the sea drones. Question
    Other sources mention nine air drones and 7 sea drones.

    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/29/10/2022/635d062a9a7947d46b55d1b2?from=article_body

    Also, minesweeper Ivan Golubets suffered minor damage.

    What I meant is that all air targets were taken out, but there is no mention of sea drones being intercepted. So it could be that the sea drones actually penetrated and caused damage.

    Afaik, these sea drones are always hardwired and not autonomous as they don't have enough signal underwater. It should not be difficult to track which ships were close and could have acted as the command center.
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    Post  franco Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:10 am

    famschopman wrote:
    caveat emptor wrote:
    famschopman wrote:

    It only mentions air target being taken out, but doesn’t mention the sea drones. Question
    Other sources mention nine air drones and 7 sea drones.

    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/29/10/2022/635d062a9a7947d46b55d1b2?from=article_body

    Also, minesweeper Ivan Golubets suffered minor damage.

    What I meant is that all air targets were taken out, but there is no mention of sea drones being intercepted. So it could be that the sea drones actually penetrated and caused damage.

    Afaik, these sea drones are always hardwired and not autonomous as they don't have enough signal underwater. It should not be difficult to track which ships were close and could have acted as the command center.

    Read somewhere but cannot locate now that 4 were destroyed out at sea, 1 detonated against the antisubmarine net and another damaged (?) the minesweeper while being destroyed... that leaves one and obviously it was accounted for somehow.
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    Post  franco Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:22 am

    Isos wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇷🇺⚡According to preliminary data, Alexander Lapin, who commanded the group of Russian troops "O" in the Northern Military District, was removed from his post.

    Who is he? What did he f*ck up specifically?


    Everywhere he commanded, ukrainian achieved successes.

    The tchetchen leader hates him.

    Not true in so many ways.
    1 - commander of the Central MD not the Northern MD
    2 - successful in Syria, liberated Palmaria
    3 - took over command of the Russian forces in Luhansk and Kharkov from the Western MD commander when he faltered. Liberated Severodonetsk / Lysychans'k, Popasna and I believe he was in command of liberating Lyman and possibly Izyum.

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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:29 am

    Ukrainians released a video from underwater drones. They have cameras and they are probably remotely guided.
    Maybe admiral Makakrov is hit by ome of them? At least that's how it looks from the video.
    https://t.me/milinfolive/92614

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