Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30

Why would you feel sorry for Ukrainians? They are not paying for them. Feel sorry for the US taxpayer.

1. Read what I wrote carefully. I wrote that I do not feel sorry for wehrmacht 2.0. I felt sorry for the Iraqis who were forced to buy those dowsing rods because Iraq got crapped on at least five times in a row by us. We lied to them about the consequences of invading Kuwait. We told them to rise up as we told Saddam we wouldn't shoot down his choppers. We sanctioned and bombed their civilian infrastructure to bits, we then invaded them and then we funded their civil war. On top of that we sold them junk.

2. I am an American taxpayer. I've been fleeced to help nazis in Ukraine to the tune of 100 billion+ dollars and in the land of the free I have no say on where my tax money goes as every single last jackass in DC supports this scam. When we call them out for it and say nuclear war is not a good idea we get called Kremlin agents. So yeah feel sorry for us, we are voiceless.

Arrow wrote:300k soldiers for a 1000km front is still not that much. It is not enough to conduct aggressive offensive actions.

They took roughly 30% of 404 with 120.000 men back in March.

Don´t forget to add to that 300.000 the 100.000 fighters (Russian Armed Forces, LPR and DPR militias, Wagner and volunteers) currently at the frontlines + additional volunteers coming in. We talk about a fighting force of around 450.000 men. Maybe more. Russia will have an advantage in FIREPOWER and MANPOWER.

Arrow wrote:

Some of the forces must be rotated. They have been fighting for several months.

This may be true, but its still a net gain of least 200,000 even if they rotate out those units that have been deployed for months. As others said they grabbed 1/3 of ukraine with 100,000. You'd think they could do some real damage with a force that large. I think they will

As far as negotiations, well good. Negotiation is always preferable to war, but I don't see the negotiations working because for negotiation to succeed you need honest and willing partners. Russia doesn't have that in the west

Hole wrote:

Arrow wrote:300k soldiers for a 1000km front is still not that much. It is not enough to conduct aggressive offensive actions.

They took roughly 30% of 404 with 120.000 men back in March.

Don´t forget to add to that 300.000 the 100.000 fighters (Russian Armed Forces, LPR and DPR militias, Wagner and volunteers) currently at the frontlines + additional volunteers coming in. We talk about a fighting force of around 450.000 men. Maybe more. Russia will have an advantage in FIREPOWER and MANPOWER.

They haven't yet captured it since ukrainians keep pushing and they don't seem to be willing to give up.

Status quo isn't option. Either one side win and crushes the other or one of them give up.



Meanwhile su-34 again low altitude on the front. But at least it uses cheap dumb bombs and not expensive kh-29 missiles.

The Ukrs were able to make some gains against Russian forces , with a concentrated force of approx 50,000 . The Russian troops in order to confront this force , using existing forces stationed in the hot zone , would have had to give up defensive positions and loose territory elsewhere , in order to check this advance . In reality then Russia may have needed a similar size mobile force , in a mobile defensive role . Therefore to reach the minimal objectives of the operation and regain and liberate the Russian regions ( minus Odessa , which needs marine infantry assault from Sea ) in the East , this force should be enough . The Ukraine is now getting destroyed , and is no longer a viable state . The more it fights , the weaker it gets . Soon there will be no electricity or fuel and even shortage of food and water . NATO can not turn this mess into an effective fighting force , no matter how much support it provides .

Yes this is a problem ! Even if all Ukrs die , still there will be some who will fire a few missiles into Russian sector . The Americans will fight Russians to the last Ukrs . And vice versa . And the Americans will fight Russians to the last European . And vice versa . But the Americans will not fight the Russians to the last American . And vice versa . Therefore it is best that Americans fight Russians and vice versa . Especially the vice versa .

GunshipDemocracy wrote:news update Rudenko:

On yesterday's conflict between mercenaries from Poland and the Nazis. Yesterday, the Poles refused to go forward, and because of this, one of the attacks in the Liman direction bogged down and the Nazis suffered losses.

Representatives of the Nazis came to investigate this matter and the Poles flunked them. But that was not all! Closer to the night, the Nazis decided to take revenge and went to the camp of the Poles. Outcome: 23 killed, it is not clear from the wounded. People only counted the body bags.

https://t.me/RtrDonetsk/11276

Robert.V wrote:

It's a Mach 6 missile   ..what idiot would say that ?    Perhaps you mean it's not ideal for  maneuvering targets.   Which is also stupid frankly.  Since it's designed to engage target up to 8 G's.    Which is about what modern planes can do while carrying a normal  payload unless pure light air to air load.    

In which case all modern planes  are rated up to 9 G's and most will even easily overload up to 11+ G's with a pair AAM's.

But even then a pair of fired  R-37M will  be a treat.   As  the lead missile will  cause the target to maneuver and exhaust energy  for the second missile to have a  chance.

for any bomber , AWACS or F-35 or cruise missile is more then enough.  Long range could mean - B2 or B21 cannot escape and can be reached before reach shooting position.  MiG-31 is basically an interceptor, not a dogfighter.

That story about the so-called "Poles" still sounds like total bull-shit.


What do you mean by that the "Poles" flunked them? You mean they killed some of them?

If they did then why did the alleged Poles not defect to the Russians afterwards?

You mean they were sitting there until night and patiently awaiting for the Ukrainians to come and kill them?


Is that what you would do in their place?

Something like that would not have taken place in reality.



http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/460/land-zamosc-zamojszczyzna-1942-1944


http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html

Arrow wrote:Probably the American M982 Excalibur guided projectile hits and damage the Russian T-90M Proryv.

https://t.me/historywarweaponmain/65499

It's a 'basic' artillery shell, not an anti-tank weapon. It's a bit hard to see from the footage but it shouldn't have done much damage except activating the reactive armor?

Now this is funny

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1586077707687034880/photo/1

flamming_python wrote:All the cliches

Rusty machine gun
Mobilized and sent to the front line immediately with no training
Abandoned by command
Intoxicated superior officer
Taken out back by the commisar for execution

It reads like a propaganda account of the Eastern Front during WW2. Like those films Mikhalkov made; Burnt by the Sun

Wouldn't put any stock in this pulp account

It reads like an account of life in the Ukie trenches   , but edited to replace Bandera references with Russians.  Stupid ukrop white noise, easily ignored.

A storm is coming.  Ukies had their bit of fun.  Now Russia gets her turn

flamming_python wrote:Glad to hear only 23 have died, such as it were.. as opposed to initial reports which suggested 30 or more.

Agreed. This is WAR. Shit happens. Good men die.

May the magic-man in the sky bless their souls while sending the fcking Uro-rat trash bastards shrieking to a place of eternal damnation and endless torment

Arrow wrote:Some of the forces must be rotated. They have been fighting for several months.

Meanwhile, Putin is very eager to negotiate.

Nexta is "Bielorussian opposition" i.e. cia propaganda channel.  Please stop using nazi propaganda

Arrow wrote:300k soldiers for a 1000km front is still not that much. It is not enough to conduct aggressive offensive actions.

That 300k is added to the existing ~200K, plus ~75K volunteers, plus ex-LDNR. Russian forces available for a Winter Offensive will probably number ~700k, plus the commensurate heavy gear.

Arrow wrote:300k soldiers for a 1000km front is still not that much. It is not enough to conduct aggressive offensive actions.

It's not a "1,000km front", the front is only as large as where the enemy is concentrated at any given time, it is a changing thing.

You could say it was the 1,000km border, but that is a different concept.

Arrow wrote:Some of the forces must be rotated. They have been fighting for several months.

They are, and have been continuously since march. Seriously?

Arrow wrote:Meanwhile, Putin is very eager to negotiate.

FFS. Its optics. Designed to demonstrate to Russias Eurasian and Global South friends that NATO is utterly intransigent and that the Kiev nazi regime can't be negotiated with.

Wake up.

Arrow wrote:Some of the forces must be rotated. They have been fighting for several months.

Meanwhile, Putin is very eager to negotiate.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1586014232511799296?s=20&t=N5yFaTdKjdvpbquSYj6eCw

This is the last chance cafe offer. Then UNLEASH HELL!!

Russia should really use all the capture weapons to attack Poland and blame it on Ukraine lol.

heard the graduation for the mobilizees was held so i am guessing an offensive would be planned somewhere in the middle of november since 10 forecast still doesnt show temperatures below 32 farenheit