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    Post  mnrck Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:55 am

    Geran-2 origin design is irrelevant. What matter is it's combat approved, effective, easily mass produced, cheap and can be exported.

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    Post  sepheronx Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:59 am

    mnrck wrote:Geran-2 origin design is irrelevant. What matter is it's combat approved, effective, easily mass produced, cheap and can be exported.

    There is no doubt about how Russia successfully using it.

    I'm hoping they will increase the damage and range of lancet now to make it effective in hitting formations.

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    Post  Erk Thu Oct 27, 2022 5:31 am

    mnrck wrote:Geran-2 origin design is irrelevant. What matter is it's combat approved, effective, easily mass produced, cheap and can be exported.

    Last I read, Russia were producing 500 of the drones per month, gearing up to produce 3,000/mth.
    So they obviously have confidence in the design. No doubt they will alter it as countermeasures evolve.

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    Post  Mir Thu Oct 27, 2022 5:32 am

    Ukraine now serving kangaroos and foxes...

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:01 am

    Another beautiful day brought geranization of Kiev, Dnepropetrovs, Charkov, Zaporozhe, Bachmut (tactical most probably), Pavlograd and Odessa.
    In Kiev, it was Kievskaya HPP again, or its assisting infrastructure - incoming were reported in the Vysohorod district north of the city. Yanuk ex residency is next by, by the way Twisted Evil

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:59 am

    Does anyone know which theiving bandera scumbag took over Yanukovichs residence after he was chased out at gunpoint back in 2014?

    I had always assumed that the flashy residence belonged to Ahkmetov, and was made available to Yanukovich as part of Ahkmetovs patronage. Is this correct?
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    Post  flamming_python Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:07 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:Does anyone know which theiving bandera scumbag took over Yanukovichs residence after he was chased out at gunpoint back in 2014?

    I had always assumed that the flashy residence belonged to Ahkmetov, and was made available to Yanukovich as part of Ahkmetovs patronage. Is this correct?

    I'm sure Yanukovich corruptioned off more than enough to afford a little palace of his own to call home pirat

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:20 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:Does anyone know which theiving bandera scumbag took over Yanukovichs residence after he was chased out at gunpoint back in 2014?
    I had always assumed that the flashy residence belonged to Ahkmetov, and was made available to Yanukovich as part of Ahkmetovs patronage. Is this correct?

    Formally it is a recreation park & a small zoo at the moment.

    Almaz-Antey announced the start of the production of quadrocopters. Up to 1000 pcs till the end of a year, at a price "significantly lower than foreign analogues".
    Most probably they are addressing DJI, as the price of those hit a $1k a piece in retail.

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    Post  crod Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:23 am

    Erk wrote:
    mnrck wrote:Geran-2 origin design is irrelevant. What matter is it's combat approved, effective, easily mass produced, cheap and can be exported.

    Last I read, Russia were producing 500 of the drones per month, gearing up to produce 3,000/mth.
    So they obviously have confidence in the design. No doubt they will alter it as countermeasures evolve.


    3k p/m? christ on a bike

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:33 am

    Has Arash-2 been used on combat already?
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    Post  crod Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:55 am

    i wonder how many iran can produce p/m? d_taddei2 posted a nice vid 2 pages back, i hope russia passed on the anti radar tech to iran - would add a decent bit of potency for them.

    it also makes me think how iran tested iron dome via hamas last year...if they have that tech, swamp iron dome which hamas clearly did then send in the obesity snacks to take out.

    wrong thread i know so i'll stop here.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:06 am

    ALAMO wrote:Another beautiful day brought geranization of Kiev, Dnepropetrovs, Charkov, Zaporozhe, Bachmut (tactical most probably), Pavlograd and Odessa.
    In Kiev, it was Kievskaya HPP again, or its assisting infrastructure - incoming were reported in the Vysohorod district north of the city. Yanuk ex residency is next by, by the way Twisted Evil

    Well, you fucked up everything... thumbsup lol!
    Dnepropetrovs without K in the end, Charkov ? bounce Ba(k)hmut and Zaporozh(y)e..

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:14 am

    mnztr wrote:

    You do realize as mercenaries they are subject to the death penalty right?

    Wrong. May have been before they became part of Russia but I seem to remember discussion that Russia doesn't have the death penalty.

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    Post  Firebird Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:20 am

    flamming_python wrote:

    He is going about it the right way

    How you behave all returns back to you

    Which is why the collective West was surprised by Africa, Asia, South America, etc.. for the most part refusing to get on board with their sanctions war on Russia and isolation of the country. Almost all refusing to get on board with it in fact.
    And in fact many of them have taken advantage to buy and reexport Russian goods at cheaper prices, and/or set up alternatives to current global organizations.

    All Russia really has to do is stay the course. Leave the desperate provocations to the neo-cons and Kiev.

    Well destabilising America is one thing. But getting "Al Qaeda" to sink  a US carrier/cruiser is a different one.
    What harm does America receive for killing 1000s of Russians? None.
    So there is no deterrent.
    Africa, Asia, much of Lat America couldn't give a shit if Russia destabilised the USA anyway.

    You say how u behave returns back to you.
    Problem is, with America it hasn't.
    They realise they have nothing to lose by killing Russians, so they kill more.

    In any case, Putin has made some cryptic suggestions that he might not be "Mr Nice Guy" forever with Uncle Scam.
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    Post  Firebird Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:24 am

    Backman wrote:
    Firebird wrote:How do (the sane) people here think Russia might use the large numbers of new troops and equipment being added to the operation.

    I

    Is this possible? What do people think? Or would Odessa be taken before a land blockade across the W Central Pukraine?

    I sure hope they do the idea of attacking down to Kiev and cutting off/disrupting the supply to the conflict by the Polish border. Doing the same thing except with more forces will still take long af

    The Dnieper and across Odessa is a long border. With many Banderite troops to fight.
    That is why I wonder N Transnistria to Belarus is a far shorter distance (1/3rd or less?).

    If Banderites run across to this "neck of the regime", Russia can mop up more of the S East in the meantime.
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    Post  crod Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:31 am

    Firebird wrote:
    Well destabilising America is one thing. But getting "Al Qaeda" to sink  a US carrier/cruiser is a different one.
    What harm does America receive for killing 1000s of Russians? None.
    So there is no deterrent.
    Africa, Asia, much of Lat America couldn't give a shit if Russia destabilised the USA anyway.

    You say how u behave returns back to you.
    Problem is, with America it hasn't.
    They realise they have nothing to lose by killing Russians, so they kill more.

    In any case, Putin has made some cryptic suggestions that he might not be "Mr Nice Guy" forever with Uncle Scam.

    100% correct imo. this shit is so cost-effective to the yanks it boils my piss. but if russia liberates a further 4 oblasts, stops nato building a monster naval port in odessa, plus russia enjoying trillions in gdp in resources over the coming decades couple with neutrality then it will be worth the pain, suffering and loss.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:35 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    mnztr wrote:

    You do realize as mercenaries they are subject to the death penalty right?

    Wrong. May have been before they became part of Russia but I seem to remember discussion that Russia doesn't have the death penalty.

    Russia doesn't have death penalty correct, I wonder as a federation that a region could be granted such. Either way people do die in captivity from their war injuries lol!
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:37 am

    Kherson: Operational and tactical situation as of October 26.

    🔺 The final decision—to defend the city of Kherson—has been made, largely thanks to General Surovikin and his strategic talent. It is no longer up for discussion. Surovikin and his command staff will be directly in charge of the Kherson operation.

    The grouping of the Russian Armed Forces around Kherson has been significantly increased and reinforced in line with the current combat situation. All power structures in the city are in place.

    All strategic directions and transport arteries leading to Kherson—on the Nikolayev, Krivoy Rog and Nikopol routes—are fully controlled by the RF Armed Forces.

    🔷 During the past 24 hours, the enemy made several attempts at reconnaissance-in-force using battalion-tactical grouping (BTGs) and each time suffered significant losses and retreated.

    It is known with certainty that, according to the strategy of the Ukrainian General Staff, the Ukrainian army plans to gather a grouping of forces numbering up to 45,000 people along the directions of the coming offensive, conducting a simultaneous strike in three directions.

    The implementation of this plan is complicated by poor mobilization results, i.e. lack of personnel, complete demoralization of the existing mobilized troops from the AFU reserve, lack of supply of new weapons and insufficient complement of existing equipment, and weather conditions.

    Under current weather conditions, the terrain on the outskirts of Kherson turns into mud traps. At the same time, it is very difficult for the AFU and its logistics units to move along the roads [because of Russian artillery]. And the farther into winter, the harder the logistics become.

    All the so-called "tactical plans" of the General Staff of the AFU today involve the usual stalling for time. A simulacrum of an offensive is being carried out, into which untrained mobilized people freshly recruited from the streets are thrown in.

    The enemy is heavily stretched along the front, forced to use foreign mercenaries on the main lines, which mercenaries in turn refuse to fight as infantry, causing many conflicts between them and the national battalions—in disputes over the right to hide behind the backs of untrained AFU soldiers of the 50+ age category.

    Although the general picture on the line of contact near Kherson suggests that an offensive by the AFU is imminent, the operational and tactical situation today is generally stable. The enemy wants to take Kherson, this is currently the only real and tangible goal of the AFU General Staff, and it has less and less time to siphon financial aid from Western partners.

    The Russian Army, in turn, is ready to defend the city of Kherson and to further develop tactical success, if appropriate—to counter-attack in the direction of Nikolayev-Odessa.


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    Post  auslander Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:42 am

    "Governor of Sevastopol Mikhail Razvozhaev, on the night of October 27, the facilities of the Balaklava TPP in the Sapun Gora region were attacked by a Ukrainian UAV. As a result of the impact on one of the transformers, which at that moment was not working and was under maintenance, a fire broke out. The fire was quickly extinguished by the station staff. By the time employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations arrived at the TPP, open combustion had been eliminated."

    In my opinion there is no way a drone made it past/through Sevastopol or Balaklava. I think when all is known it will be found that whatever hit the TPP was not launched outside of this local AO but like the last one a few months ago it will be found that the unit was trucked in, assembled and launched locally.

    VCO is at this moment passing the TPP and she says all is normal there, regular traffic and no extra security on the bypass.

    Auslander & VCO

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    Post  mr_hd Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:42 am

    There was news that Ukrainian drone attacked transformation stations in power plant in Crimea - Balaklava.

    Also 2 sets of Nasmas were delivered and are in use already - so sky over Ukraine will get more dangerous for Russian planes and missiles long term.

    Slowly more advanced weapons systems will arrive, Russia can not do much about it. There will be more troubles in Ukraine next few months, we are heading into new cycles of escalations.

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    Post  Erk Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:49 am

    crod wrote:
    Erk wrote:
    mnrck wrote:Geran-2 origin design is irrelevant. What matter is it's combat approved, effective, easily mass produced, cheap and can be exported.

    Last I read, Russia were producing 500 of the drones per month, gearing up to produce 3,000/mth.
    So they obviously have confidence in the design. No doubt they will alter it as countermeasures evolve.


    3k p/m? christ on a bike

    Russia also opened a factory for large drones back in February.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:51 am

    mr_hd wrote:There was news that Ukrainian drone attacked transformation stations in power plant in Crimea - Balaklava.

    Also 2 sets of Nasmas were delivered and are in use already - so sky over Ukraine will get more dangerous for Russian planes and missiles long term.

    Slowly more advanced weapons systems will arrive, Russia can not do much about it. There will be more troubles in Ukraine next few months, we are heading into new cycles of escalations.


    This MR HD bastard publicly wrote that he supports Ukroshitstan and do not pay attention to him !

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    Post  mr_hd Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:00 am

    Podlodka77 wrote:

    This MR HD bastard publicly wrote that he supports Ukroshitstan and do not pay attention to him !

    Thanks for the nice words Very Happy.

    Of course I have right to choose - and I like to be transparent.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:14 am

    mr_hd wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:

    This MR HD bastard publicly wrote that he supports Ukroshitstan and do not pay attention to him !

    Thanks for the nice words Very Happy.

    Of course I have right to choose - and I like to be transparent.

    Nothing wrong with being transparent. There is something wrong with supporting an ultra-nationalist regime in Kiev but I'm sure you'll be ultimately disappointed how things will turn out for it, so by all means.

    And you're right, there's not much Russia can do about the advanced weapons coming in

    But a drone striking a transformer station in the Crimea is hardly a game-changer and neither are the so far token amounts of air defence systems being supplied by NATO to the Ukraine; who air defence network Russia largely avoids and prefers to simply strike at through cruise missiles and drones regardless

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    Post  nomadski Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:18 am




    How much of Russia is left with no Electricity or water ? How many Russian factories are destroyed compared to Ukraine ? How many cities ? Suppose Ukraine destroys the newly liberated areas of Russia . And Russia destroys the entire Ukraine . Still Ukraine is completely destroyed not Russia . So fire at will .

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