Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30

Erk wrote:

limb wrote:

But I thought that the Russian army wont liberate anything for the foreseeable future. After all their goal is to denazify, not liberate.

Don't try to think, you are not good at it.
Just observe what actually happens, and leave it at that.

Ned86 wrote:Recent Ka-52 video 

Erk wrote: No doubt they will alter it as countermeasures evolve.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Ispan wrote:A belated report of the past 4 days, with some analysis about casualties and the general situation, more entries to come soon

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/10/26/noticias-de-la-guerra-resumen-del-21-al-25-octubre-informe-especial/

and an analysis in depth about losses in the past two months

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/10/26/perdidas-de-ucrania-septiembre-a-octubre/

Big_Gazza wrote:

https://twitter.com/runews/status/1585565630547329026

Puzzle solved. This is what the Iranians are flying in and its not drones.

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Iranian Sprite in Donetsk and Iranian Coca-Cola in Mariupol

I really cannot understand for the life of me why Russia hasn't done this. Putin just seems to be too "nice" ie deluding himself that he is going the right way.

Western media: Iran sending chemical weapons to Russia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

West wants to destroy Orthodox Christianity but not the other denominations.

If that were true why have the alleged "Poles" not defected to the Russian side?

Just think about it, if that really happened they would have had no other choice.

Do you expect me to believe that they sit there and await some sort of fair trial?

They would have went over to the Russian side of the front-line by now.

Probably a clever fabrication in order to make these ethnic Ukrainians from Poland look "more genuinely Polish."

You do realize as mercenaries they are subject to the death penalty right?

This is why Western Ukraine needs to be invaded and the Polish/Ukraine border shut.

Esit: and Smoothi X12 was saying they were made and designed in Russia. Not Ukraine. Or did he say they were designed in Ukraine?

I'm hoping they will increase the damage and range of lancet now to make it effective in hitting formations.

i hope russia passed on the anti radar tech to iran - would add a decent bit of potency for them.

Wrong. May have been before they became part of Russia but I seem to remember discussion that Russia doesn't have the death penalty.

You say how u behave returns back to you.
Problem is, with America it hasn't.

In any case, Putin has made some cryptic suggestions that he might not be "Mr Nice Guy" forever with Uncle Scam.

The Dnieper and across Odessa is a long border. With many Banderite troops to fight.
That is why I wonder N Transnistria to Belarus is a far shorter distance (1/3rd or less?).

If Banderites run across to this "neck of the regime", Russia can mop up more of the S East in the meantime.

but if russia liberates a further 4 oblasts, stops nato building a monster naval port in odessa, plus russia enjoying trillions in gdp in resources over the coming decades couple with neutrality then it will be worth the pain, suffering and loss.

Russia doesn't have death penalty correct, I wonder as a federation that a region could be granted such. Either way people do die in captivity from their war injuries

The enemy is heavily stretched along the front, forced to use foreign mercenaries on the main lines, which mercenaries in turn refuse to fight as infantry, causing many conflicts between them and the national battalions—in disputes over the right to hide behind the backs of untrained AFU soldiers of the 50+ age category.

Also 2 sets of Nasmas were delivered and are in use already - so sky over Ukraine will get more dangerous for Russian planes and missiles long term.

Slowly more advanced weapons systems will arrive, Russia can not do much about it.

I observe whats actually happening every day. Whats actually happening is that almost nothing is liberated since july. There is some denazification and decommuniazation though. However nazification in terms of terror and brainwashing of the russian population is going completely unimpeded in most of novorossiya, since nothing has been liberated for a long time.

That is why there has been some dispute about returning to the death penalty in Russia just by not prolonging it.
It was one of the points valid for being an active member of the Council of Europe, and I suppose that RF gives a fuk about that.

Just send more drones.

limb wrote:

Erk wrote:

limb wrote:

But I thought that the Russian army wont liberate anything for the foreseeable future. After all their goal is to denazify, not liberate.

Don't try to think, you are not good at it.
Just observe what actually happens, and leave it at that.

I observe whats actually happening every day. Whats actually happening is that almost nothing is liberated since july. There is some denazification and decommuniazation though. However nazification in terms of terror and brainwashing of the russian population is going completely unimpeded in most of novorossiya, since nothing has been liberated for a long time.

flamming_python wrote:

limb wrote:

Erk wrote:

limb wrote:

But I thought that the Russian army wont liberate anything for the foreseeable future. After all their goal is to denazify, not liberate.

Don't try to think, you are not good at it.
Just observe what actually happens, and leave it at that.

I observe whats actually happening every day. Whats actually happening is that almost nothing is liberated since july. There is some denazification and decommuniazation though. However nazification in terms of terror and brainwashing of the russian population is going completely unimpeded in most of novorossiya, since nothing has been liberated for a long time.

There is nothing to liberate

What's actually happening each day, is that there is a NATO-propagandized horde being trained, armed and sent against Russian lines. When they run out of men they will send women. When they run out of women they will send children, or at least will attempt to do so. And this regime will do it for as long as its commanded. It has plenty of motivated fanatics, while the rest of the rank and file are either cowed into submission or buy into bullshit themselves to maintain their sanity - either way they're not defecting and passing info and co-ordinates to the Russian side or shooting their comrades in the back. In fact the amount of captured is fairly low and their morale high, driven by all sorts of Nazi and NATO nonsense. They regularly fight to the death.

Liberation of what and who exactly are you looking for?
The only victory possible is to grind the regime down into submission, or provoke some sort of uprising against it in Kiev.
In the meantime the priority should be on saving friendly manpower and destroying the enemy. The fact that they are themselves assaulting Russian fortified lines massively simplifies things. Don't complicate it.

franco wrote:Shoot out at the K corral  

Mercenaries from Warsaw and militants of the "Right Sector" * from Lvov began to beat each other in the trenches with machine guns

Polish mercenaries and pravoseki * in the Kremennaya area shot each other.

Sooner or later it had to happen.

Contradictions between pravoseki and mercenaries are growing every day. And for a long time. Despite the fact that they seem to be fighting side by side. There are several reasons for this.

Firstly, the Right Sectors are a kind of elite of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Like SS units in the Ukrainian army. They have really good military training. They clearly demonstrated this in Mariupol. They have been fighting for a long time, they have gained enough combat experience. This raises them even more in their own eyes. Right-wingers have a saying: “Above us, there are only stars. Brighter than us - only the sun. The status among the security forces is obvious.

And then impudent Poles come and begin to “swing rights”. The Nazis, of course, "by nature, everything boiled inside." And they grabbed their guns. But the Poles, too, were not a blunder. And they sent opponents to Bandera first.

In fact, both the Right Sectors and the Poles had the same military concept - not to take risks themselves once again, but to send the least valuable members of society into battle. Those who are not sorry. If the Poles had not been at hand, the right-wingers would have driven the therodefense into battle.

And if there are both, they sacrifice less valuable personnel. Less valuable in this case, of course, are mercenaries - regardless of origin, whether they are Africans, British, Croats or Poles. Are you paid a salary? Here, go and do it. In addition, there could be close relatives between the National Battalion and the defense forces. Of course, it is better to throw a pshek under the fire of Russian artillery than a godfather, son-in-law or nephew.

And the Poles understood this very well. And in order to demonstrate their courage to these Ukrainian “serfs” (and the “branded” Polish arrogance obliges), they really went on the attack on Russian borders several times. And the Russian art, as expected, “unwound” them all over the steppe. The push didn't work.

The very first "two hundred" sobered hot Polish heads. They realized that they were being thrown to the slaughter. In the modern Ukrainian army, it is generally not customary to feel sorry for people.

And the proud Poles raised a small-town revolt on the scale of a brigade - they say, if you really want to die, break into the Russian positions yourself. Word for word, the situation escalated. National insults were used as heavy artillery (as is most often the case). The last argument should have been an automatic queue. But here the Poles were quicker.

In this case, the Polish ambition played a positive role. He added determination and bitterness to the Poles. In addition, their comrades-in-arms had just died in their arms. This embittered them even more. And instead of languages, automata spoke.

After this exchange of fire in the “opornik”, the Poles and the Right Sectors fled to different flanks of the brigade. The authorities of the unit extinguished the conflict as best they could by removing the mercenaries from the unit. But the bloody residue remained.

What conclusions will the leadership of the Armed Forces draw from this? Will do some. Most likely, the Poles will be withdrawn from mixed formations. Mercenary brigades will now be formed on a national basis.

The Poles are likely to be allowed to engage in their favorite kind of activity - intelligence, local sabotage and attacks on rear columns. And as a bonus - the robbery of civilians.

Apparently, the Poles will no longer want to take part in direct clashes. This right after a shootout they won with blood. Some of the mercenaries will understand that the "Russian safari" obviously did not work out in Ukraine. Little of. It turns out that the Ukrainians, for whom they are fighting, also keep them as a “consumable”. The most intelligent, after realizing this fact, will return home. The more frostbitten will continue to tempt fate.

And the Ukrainians, especially those who were exhausted from the desire to become "Czeuropa", once again understood how this "Czeuropa" treats them.

Of course, the Ukrainian media will do everything possible to hush up this bloody conflict. The thimbler Arestovich will come up with another cheap excuse. Or even pretend that nothing happened. Unless the soldier's "overcoat radio" will work. But that's good too.

By the way, ironically, there are also quite a few ethnic Poles among Ukrainian Rightists. The same Biletsky , for example. That is, it turns out that the Poles - representatives of one people, but citizens of different states - shot at each other. Political addictions were stronger than the call of blood.

This once again emphasizes that the Americans do not care not only for the Slavs, but for all Europeans in general, regardless of nationality. And for the right to remain the world's gendarme, they are ready to fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian, Pole, Croat, German, and further down the list.

https://svpressa-ru.translate.goog/war21/article/350427/?utm_source=warfiles.ru&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en