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sepheronx wrote:I guarantee Chinese jets crash all the time, especially using their own engines.
Reporting it vs not iis a debate in itself. If word gets out of a crash and dead pilot, it looks bad. But I bet the testing facilities are far away from paying eyes.
Backman wrote:sepheronx wrote:I guarantee Chinese jets crash all the time, especially using their own engines.
Reporting it vs not iis a debate in itself. If word gets out of a crash and dead pilot, it looks bad. But I bet the testing facilities are far away from paying eyes.
Totally agree. China probably has lots of wipeouts.
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30 flamming_python Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:56 am
Backman wrote:Russia spent a lot of effort on strategic weapons. That are supposed to theoretically deter the US from doing insane shit. But it doesn't seem to work.
The US is more afraid of the localized consequences of war with Iran and war with N.Korea than they are about war with Russia. Oh no Soel is in artillery range. Oh no the strait of Hormuz will be shut. We never hear these kinds of concerns from them when the subject of war with Russia comes up. They are almost itching to get the war going.
War with Russia ? Nuclear bombs and hypersonic missiles ? No problem ! Shutter 80% of the gas going to our biggest ally ? No problem !
I think it is just the irrationality and extremism that is in the Anglo axis psyche about Russia. They just don't have these feelings towards North Koreans or Iranians.
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It's actually worse than that, they antagonize Russia so much because they know that Russia is a rational actor that actually contemplates the consequences of their actions beforehand. As explained in the RAND papers, they want to unbalance Russia economically, politically, socially, militarily and even spiritually (the Orthodox Church) in the hopes of causing the Russian Federation to collapse internally like the USSR and Yugoslavia did. They even speak of a limited nuclear war (most likely between Ukraine and Russia) to aid that goal. They're hoping that they can use the rules Russia lives by against it (strong respect for international law and contractual agreements) to collapse the state and divvy up the spoils between themselves.flamming_python wrote:Because they think that Russia is weak internally. That it's society will ultimately collapse and won't be able to mobilize like Iran or North Korea can.
Or maybe they've just invested so much into propaganda against Russia, that they've persuaded themselves of their own cliches and tropes
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JohninMK wrote:[
No they haven't. They have been there since June when they replaced the 82nd Airborne. This is a fuss about nothing.
This was a PR exercise to puff up the Dems and Biden ahead of the mid term elections in the US next month.
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par far wrote:The Americans have just sent their 101st Airborne units to Romania and Poland.
What is the Russian equivalent of American 101st Airborne units? Does Russia have have anything, these are supposed to be the best American Troops.
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Backman wrote:Russia spent a lot of effort on strategic weapons. That are supposed to theoretically deter the US from doing insane shit. But it doesn't seem to work.
The US is more afraid of the localized consequences of war with Iran and war with N.Korea than they are about war with Russia. Oh no Soel is in artillery range. Oh no the strait of Hormuz will be shut. We never hear these kinds of concerns from them when the subject of war with Russia comes up. They are almost itching to get the war going.
War with Russia ? Nuclear bombs and hypersonic missiles ? No problem ! Shutter 80% of the gas going to our biggest ally ? No problem !
I think it is just the irrationality and extremism that is in the Anglo axis psyche about Russia. They just don't have these feelings towards North Koreans or Iranians.
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I still remember one of their propaganda around late '90s which is a news scoop about Russian soldiers whose so desperate and have to do a second job as a stripper.) So they portray minor threats as Iran or DPRK as a much bigger threat to American than they really are. wrote:
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30 ahmedfire Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:09 am
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30 flamming_python Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:40 pm
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30 Airbornewolf Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:45 pm
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30 Big_Gazza Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:55 pm
flamming_python wrote:Looks like even the Ukraine's intel chief is slapping some sense into the doomers
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In summary, Gonzalo thinks NATO is preparing to go for Belarus and/or western Ukraine.
So what? That would mean that all NATO countries can be attacked by Russia and Belarus.
What is the Russian equivalent of American 101st Airborne units?
Also the West Ukraine is on the same Polish border and Russia cannot do anything there, besides these are Catholic and Russophilic areas that never belonged to Russia until after WWII
In addition, Poland always wants to seize Belarus and have its "Greater Poland" or at least take the western part of Belarus (Grodno and Brest oblast), so this also further distances Kaliningrad from Russia, which is the real objective of the USA, that is to say expel russia from the Baltic Sea
On the one hand, I would not write them like a bad check like I do anything in the Ukronazi army. They are well trained, well equipped, well led, professional killers so DO NOT TAKE THEM LIGHTLY. Now before you smash the dislike button and add me to your foes list there is another hand and here it is. . . .
But I hope we repent and God and our neighbors across the globe can forgive us.
I have no doubt they could seize an objective, but their support would never arrive and they'd die to a man
With all due respect to the written words, because no sane person wants a nuclear war - I still disagree.
They are well trained and equipped but no different to a VDV division; just smaller. They probably have less heavy weapons as well. But I'm not well-informed.
I don't believe in covering up everything but if you can get away with it , why not. Like when the radar equipment got stolen out of the nuclear warning plane. It was a top secret plane. There was no reason to report it. It only just gets used against you in the media
Russia spent a lot of effort on strategic weapons. That are supposed to theoretically deter the US from doing insane shit. But it doesn't seem to work.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30 Airbornewolf Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:11 pm
Hole wrote:
The reality behind Twitter
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ahmedfire wrote:That's an armor massacre .
i would prefere also to use more drones with precision ammunitions .
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30 flamming_python Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:30 pm
Big_Gazza wrote:flamming_python wrote:Looks like even the Ukraine's intel chief is slapping some sense into the doomers
Hopefully the Ukrops will ignore the odd plaintive call for rationality coming from within their misbegotten ranks and will instead plunge forwards on a mass offensive.
It would be a terrible shame if the Russian lads came along all dresse dup for a good face-stomping only for the bandera faggots to be a cowardly no-show
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30 billybatts91 Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:39 pm
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