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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30

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    Post  auslander Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:20 am

    crod wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:Also, what's a rape kit?
    well they're all different and personalised. Mine consists of: midget porn, Vaseline, Sudo-cream, clean pair of shorts and a Cadbury Wholenut. censored

    You forgot the emu! How could you forget the most important of said rape kit?????

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    Post  mnztr Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:26 am

    auslander wrote:
    mnztr wrote:When I look at a map of Kherson, I would put a *hitload of Artillery on the east bank of the Dniper. No need to put it too much on the west bank. Easier logistics, easier to defend and easily can create a wall of steel. Some mobile arty on the west bank so you can start pounding deeper as well as GRADs for saturation fire. If Ukraine attacks this is a golden opportunity for Russia to cripple them. Hopefully they don't *uck it up. I really want this war to be over so we can not have to deal with the nauseous propaganda from the western press.  


    You ain't seen nothin' yet. 101 Airborne WILL be in the fracas, you can bet your dollar, or ruble, last kopek. This is serious folks, really serious. Logistics will decide the outcome, not minor variants of minor tactics. After 101 is deployed will start the next phase, to remove the forces in the Russian Lake. Good, get logistics at a long and tenuous slim trail and then watch said logistics get nipped hither an yon. This is called WAR and that's what's coming, pure and simple bare knuckle WAR. I can't fathom how SehSha would do this, but they will. Pity, really, we have a beautiful little village with a world class beauty of a region. That will all be destroyed.

    At that point it will be nuclear so best to store your canned goods.
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    Post  crod Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:59 am

    auslander wrote:

    You forgot the emu! How could you forget the most important of said rape kit?????

    Shhhhh! I don’t want those pesky animal rights lunatics on my back!

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    Post  crod Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:02 am

    Hopefully this is all BS but...those yanks will do everything and anything to ensure EU only gets US $$$ gas

    https://t.me/CyberspecNews/11307
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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:25 am

    crod wrote:Hopefully this is all BS but...those yanks will do everything and anything to ensure EU only gets US $$$ gas

    https://t.me/CyberspecNews/11307
    I wouldn't be too worried about Iran.  Still Russia should fast track them to CSTO so they can send some peace keepers there to stop the CIA coup.

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:34 am

    crod wrote:Hopefully this is all BS but...those yanks will do everything and anything to ensure EU only gets US $$$ gas

    https://t.me/CyberspecNews/11307

    They been trying for the last 40 years to overthrow Iranian government. I would say they can handle it far better than Russia can until these recent days.

    Iran has IRGC which will do what it needs to keep at it.

    The US is always using some woman to do their bidding. Some woman who doesn't want to wear a hijab. But that won't actually amount to anything. It's a common theme for protests in Iran which eventually fizzles out.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:46 am

    flamming_python wrote:

    That old tale about the mobile crematoriums

    Says enough about the source

    Someone forgot that propaganda can be used by both sides Laughing
    And can be just the same stupid.

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    It gets worse I'm afraid.  UK media claims the "rape kits" are intended for use against captured Ukie soldiers...  Suspect  
    What sort of twisted homo-infected failed-state invents this sort of sick shit? dunno

    I wouldn't be so sure about that part being so hilarious Laughing
    A guy who addressed Kadyrov and called him for a knife fight was taken POW. He stated that THEY (I mean his fellow soldiers) forced him to record this material threatening to rape him. They were standing around with dicks out of the pants!
    You never know what might have happened to you while serving in the army openly introducing homosexuals in ranks.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:23 am

    crod wrote:Hopefully this is all BS but...those yanks will do everything and anything to ensure EU only gets US $$$ gas

    https://t.me/CyberspecNews/11307

    Utter garbage.  Look at point #1:

    Russia is too bogged down in Ukraine to respond quickly

    Does anyone really think the most relevent factor in being able to overthrow the Iranan government (and the Revolutionary Guard formations defending it) will be the response of Russia to the attempt? Suspect

    Nah, this is just more of the usual neocon mastubatory fantasy.  Uncle Joe sniffs girl hair.  Neocons touch themselves publically.  They all have their fetish.

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    Post  nomadski Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:41 am

    Agree . The protest movement , despite having justified grievances , is not democratically formed . The counter - revolution of Monarchist and the Western orientated so called liberal " opposition " , take advantage of this protest movement and the excesses of the right wing minority in power to push own agenda . They have no interest in formation of a democracy or political parties or new constitution . They want chaos on the streets and strikes and further sanctions , to cripple the administration in Iran and then through a coup by Army against IRGC and foreign intervention , put a Monarch in power with superficial freedoms to satisfy  the masses . There is real danger here , that they will succeed . As there is also a chance of real political progress .

    The right wing extremists in Iran , must overcome their genetic fear of Iranian socialists and democrats , and other democratic elements in society and take real steps at allowing political progress by mainstream and legitimate Iranian political and historical parties and forces , such as Tudeh party and Freedom movement and any Islamic democrats to form and establish a new constitution . The alternative if not chaos and violence , or disintegration by separatists ,  is a coup or foreign troops on Iranian soil and a puppet Shah with American strings attached ! Giving out correct guidance to the people is needed , to fill the vacuum left by inadequate political development in Iran .

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:47 am

    Chmielnicki electric power substation was kaboomed a while ago.
    It provided electricity for the whole rail infrastructure in western 404.

    49.408631687901426, 26.931549968831828

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:56 am

    Are attacks on the power grid in accordance with international laws of war?

    Just asking out of curiosity.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:59 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Are attacks on the power grid in accordance with international laws of war?

    Just asking out of curiosity.

    Yes its within the standard of war and it's perfectly legal.

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    Post  Isos Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:26 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Are attacks on the power grid in accordance with international laws of war?

    Just asking out of curiosity.

    Laws of war lol1

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    Post  Erk Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:34 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Are attacks on the power grid in accordance with international laws of war?

    Just asking out of curiosity.

    Wouldn't matter either way because the UNSC are the enforcement agency, and Russia has veto power there.

    That said, it's more a question of would Russia's allies object to attacks on the Ukraine power grid?

    I think there are a couple of things going on with the attacks.

    Firstly, the Armed Forces of Ukraine use the electric railways to move around, there are very few diesel locomotives, so the attacks on the power grid are a legitimate military strategy to limit Ukraine's mobility.

    Secondly, the attacks on the power grid will drive and estimated 5 -10 million civilians from Ukraine to the EU, which puts a burden on EU resources making it harder for them to supply the Ukraine military.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:03 am

    Former CIA director and ex-commander of US and NATO forces in Afghanistan, David Petraeus, does not rule out that a "multinational" contingent led by the United States, rather than NATO itself, may take part in the conflict in Ukraine.

    Betrayus is a nutbag and not to be taken seriously.

    Drone swarm of 30-ish Geran-2s was launched from Crimea.

    Says impressive footage but I can't see anything.


    Well the US threatening to deploy an unofficial NATO expeditionary force to the Ukraine amounts to a possible widening of the war in the near future.

    One american official who is a nobody now is not the US threatening anything.

    US coalition forces set foot in the Ukraine become target number one...

    How much time does it take to get counter battery coordinates? vs how long does it take Himars to stow and go? Can they not send planes with IR to seek the hot tubes from HIMARS and destroy them?

    You get no warning that one will launch and as soon as it does it will drive away immediately.

    The rocket range means they can be anything from 10km to about 70km away from the target which creates an enormous area they could be launched from and they don't have to drive for miles... they could be sitting inside a large building or shed... drive out... fire and then drive back in... unless you have that air space covered with hundreds of drones looking for rocket launches you wont get a camera close enough in time to see where the launch vehicle drove to.

    I really want this war to be over so we can not have to deal with the nauseous propaganda from the western press.

    Western media propaganda didn't start with this war and wont end with hit... just don't watch it.

    The area to locate them in however, is huge. What use are drones? At least not the models available.

    They probably also fire them and move them at night.

    The Himars doesn't need to see its target to launch rockets... you could simply use smoke screens to hide the launch...

    We had US presidents threaten war with Iran and NK. Didn't happen. We had US admirals threaten Russia, China, nk, Iran, etc multiple times. No war.


    Is Betrayus a currently serving officer in the US military or is he retired?

    Laws of war

    You only have to worry about the laws of war if you lose.

    US sniper ammo is hollow pointed which makes it illegal for military use, and their original 5.56mm ammo was designed to fragment on impact and was also a violation of the rules of war... but they were not held accountable.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:05 am

    There are people quoting conversations instead of individual quotes... you don't need to include a members entire post to reply to one comment or another... final warning...
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    Post  Scorpius Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:20 am

    https://youtu.be/qkT7Q5EHOAc
    ejection from the Su-25

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    Post  crod Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:24 am

    Jesus Greyzone is far from upbeat re Kherson….has this chap any cred?

    …. Kherson - you can't keep it. “A web of Atlantic waves, And pages of books read. Under the water lies Atlantis - the mainland of Blue Fire. And above it - steamboats and the wind, Flocks of fish float above it ... Are fairy tales needed only for children? Fairy tales are much more necessary for adults. The tale of the city of the Scythian sun has not yet sounded in our ears, but the air has already been saturated with a familiar unpleasant aftertaste that leaves a lump in the throat.

    I think everyone understands that the situation around the Russian city has finally acquired irreversible consequences, the accomplishment of which has only a few days left. There are only two questions, how to withdraw Russian soldiers from the front line to the left bank, and how to explain all this to the people later? The situation is to some extent even worse than in comparison with the retreat from the Kharkov region after the breakthrough to Balakleya. In fact, the implementation of an organized withdrawal of the first line troops is virtually impossible. And I will be very glad to be mistaken, as in everything written below. The first problem gives rise to the answer to the second question - how? What how? And how can we just take and leave the territory of Russia? And that is why, I grit my teeth strongly, I do not exclude that some troops will remain on the right bank, which will become modern "Panfilov's", and the battle will be presented almost like Stalingrad. You should also contact the Institute of Law and History. First, it must be remembered that the mere possibility does not justify the irrefutability of the commission of an act - the motive is also inherently important. Secondly, it is worth remembering that history already painfully compares has a similar experience, so, for example, in 1941, when Soviet troops retreated to the left bank of the Dnieper from the Germans, the former blew up the Dnieper hydroelectric power station in order to prevent the advance of the latter.

    It is not possible to estimate the scale of the dead to this day, but not about that. The enemy has absolutely no motive to blow up the hydroelectric power station. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have in order to take Melitopol in the spring, the front of the battle for it is planned to be opened from the Zaporozhye region, and also, in fact, to attack from Kherson. So I subjectively believe that the enemy has no goals to destroy the already abandoned city, which we simply do not have the opportunity to defend, not so much due to the smallness of forces and means, but in broken logistics. This, by the way, is about the fact that the enemy stubbornly hit the bridge for three months, while we rejoice at the arrivals of "Geraniums" that do not affect absolutely anything. To many, it will probably seem completely impossible and absolutely ridiculous, but nothing is impossible for me, just as it is ridiculous for the Russian guys at the front. I'll be glad to be wrong. https://t.me/dshrg2/217
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    Post  crod Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:34 am

    Countered with this….intelslava

    While someone is dispersing that the Russians are leaving Kherson, local publics report on large-scale transfers of Russian troops to the territory of the Kherson region. A lot of soldiers and a lot of equipment. The troops go both to the left and to the right bank. Most of all - it is on the right bank, in the Berislav region.

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    Post  Hole Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:49 am

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:49 am

    GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 --
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    A satellite image of the water discharge from the Kakhovka reservoir, which has been going on since at least October 18, with the goal of lowering the level and volume of water and minimizing damage in the event of the destruction of the hydroelectric power station by Ukraine.



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    Post  JohninMK Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:53 am

    Crikey, this brought back some memories from the MP.net days Shocked


    GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 --
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    RF channels claim RF is advancing towards Opytne north of Donets airport
    #Russia #Ukraine #Donetsk Front


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    Post  crod Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:56 am

    Looks like another plane crashed not long after take off. No news on pilots yet 🤞🏻

    In the Irkutsk region, after takeoff, a fighter, presumably a Su-30SM, crashed. The plane crashed on the private sector, the casualties on the ground and the fate of the pilots have not yet been reported.

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:02 am

    so, the lesson of Bucha was learned: civilians are evacuated from the districts of the Kherson region, evacuees are given a one-time payment of 100 thousand rubles, and a certificate for the purchase of housing in any region of the Russian Federation of their choice.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:03 am

    Probably totally unintended symbolism is really strong and so appropriate here in the ship they chose, the RMS Titanic.

    Iceberg (Russia with 80% hidden) is in their path Laughing Laughing

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