Russian special military operation in Ukraine #25

Time for some Denazification

NSFW Warning for first video below!. Dismembered/killed troops!

18+! Failed Ukrainian assault on LPR position


RF Troops defeats Ukrainian unit, capture an Dutch YPR.


RF Airborne artillery shelling Ukrainian troops


RF T-80BVM neutralizes Ukrainian infantry

Shahed drone decommissioned Ukrainian SPG

Airbornewolf wrote:RF T-80BVM neutralizes Ukrainian infantry

https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/RF-T-80BV-M-neutralizes-Ukrainian-infantry:3

Nice video. You can clearly hear that before the grenade hits the Ukros a new round has already been loaded into the gun.

Isos wrote:

I remember reading that one of the decoys they used were standard microwave ovens with the transparent doors cut out so the microwaves could escape out the hole in the door. Don't know whether it was true or just bullshit of course... but an amusing story anyway.

Bullshit IMO. Serbs had and still have good engineers, companies and faculties where you can build sophisticated enough dummy radars with what they had.

They also had older radars and communication antenna that could be used.

You just need a power source like a diesel generator, an antenna adapted for the signal you want to create and an electronic filter to send the frequency that matches military ones of your radars.

Microwaves aren't powerful to atract HARMs.

That is not obvious. Recall 1/r^2. How are remote targets supposed to be accessible if you need a signal "strong enough"?
It depends on the range from which the HARM starts to engage a target and for all you know some boosted magnetrons from
regular microwaves are good enough.

Hole wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:RF T-80BVM neutralizes Ukrainian infantry
https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/RF-T-80BV-M-neutralizes-Ukrainian-infantry:3

Nice video. You can clearly hear that before the grenade hits the Ukros a new round has already been loaded into the gun.

There is almost not horizontal adjustment with the first few shots even though the need to target to the right is called out.
Seems like the operators are scrambling and making mistakes.

kvs wrote:There is almost not horizontal adjustment with the first few shots even though the need to target to the right is called out.
Seems like the operators are scrambling and making mistakes.

I think the gunner was not aiming exactly at the same spot the commander's sight where showing on the video. Not sure how exactly the gunner knows what the commander is aiming at. Does he have exact crosshair indicator or something? Or do they have to talk to each other to coordinate?


After rewatching the video, I believe it is harder for the gunner to see what the commander sees. The commander's sight is elevated and located on top of the turret while the gunner's sight is slightly below the level of commander's sight. I think the gunner only saw on his sight some heads popping up, but not the heads popping up further right after the first shot have been placed.
The commander also tells him to aim more to the right, which isn't really translatable aim 2m to the right or 20m to the right.
The 2nd and 3rd round also fall almost on the exact same spot, so I don't think it is some calibration issue, but commander/gunner's communication or sight/field-of-view.

Hole wrote:
Nice video. You can clearly hear that before the grenade hits the Ukros a new round has already been loaded into the gun.

And how they missed the designed target for three times in a row
Due some decalibration as they are talking about that.

Edit : sorry folks, I have missed your re: first

Werewolf wrote:

kvs wrote:There is almost not horizontal adjustment with the first few shots even though the need to target to the right is called out.
Seems like the operators are scrambling and making mistakes.

I think the gunner was not aiming exactly at the same spot the commander's sight where showing on the video. Not sure how exactly the gunner knows what the commander is aiming at. Does he have exact crosshair indicator or something? Or do they have to talk to each other to coordinate?

I can only assume that this information is rationally available for aiming. So there is human error involved.

kvs wrote:
That is not obvious.    Recall 1/r^2.   How are remote targets supposed to be accessible if you need a signal "strong enough"?  
It depends on the range from which the HARM starts to engage a target and for all you know some boosted magnetrons from
regular microwaves are good enough.

It was nothing that rudimentary. After NATO bombarded Bosnian Serbs in 1995., including AD radar sites, Military-Technical Institute with the help of Electrotechnical faculties in Belgrade and Nis started the work on various decoys to counter NATO.

caveat emptor wrote:

kvs wrote:
That is not obvious.    Recall 1/r^2.   How are remote targets supposed to be accessible if you need a signal "strong enough"?  
It depends on the range from which the HARM starts to engage a target and for all you know some boosted magnetrons from
regular microwaves are good enough.

It was nothing that rudimentary. After NATO bombarded Bosnian Serbs in 1995., including AD radar sites, Military-Technical Institute with the help of Electrotechnical faculties in Belgrade and Nis started the work on various decoys to counter NATO.

Cavity magnetrons from microwaves are not "rudimentary". They can be used as part of more sophisticated decoy solutions. Of course,
if there are some actual radar magnetrons available, then they should be used. I think people ascribe all sorts of wonderwaffle ability
to the HARM and other missiles. All it does is ride EM emissions. How you fake those emissions is not dictated by Washington.

T 90M taken over by the Ukrainians. Probably abandoned.

kvs wrote:

Hole wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:RF T-80BVM neutralizes Ukrainian infantry
https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/RF-T-80BV-M-neutralizes-Ukrainian-infantry:3

Nice video. You can clearly hear that before the grenade hits the Ukros a new round has already been loaded into the gun.

There is almost not horizontal adjustment with the first few shots even though the need to target to the right is called out.
Seems like the operators are scrambling and making mistakes.

1. Shooting is conducted at a distance of 4.35 kilometers, if the rangefinder data is correct. The flight time of the projectile is from 7 to 8 seconds, and the fact that it is already falling almost vertically also indicates a SIGNIFICANT distance.
2. Repeats "The projectile goes to the left, take it to the right" - it is likely that this effect occurs due to the deflection of the projectile in flight (wind, perhaps).
3. Can we compare the accuracy of Western tanks when shooting at targets at such a distance?

Scorpius wrote:

kvs wrote:

Hole wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:RF T-80BVM neutralizes Ukrainian infantry
https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/RF-T-80BV-M-neutralizes-Ukrainian-infantry:3

Nice video. You can clearly hear that before the grenade hits the Ukros a new round has already been loaded into the gun.

There is almost not horizontal adjustment with the first few shots even though the need to target to the right is called out.
Seems like the operators are scrambling and making mistakes.

1. Shooting is conducted at a distance of 4.35 kilometers, if the rangefinder data is correct. The flight time of the projectile is from 7 to 8 seconds, and the fact that it is already falling almost vertically also indicates a SIGNIFICANT distance.
2. Repeats "The projectile goes to the left, take it to the right" - it is likely that this effect occurs due to the deflection of the projectile in flight (wind, perhaps).
3. Can we compare the accuracy of Western tanks when shooting at targets at such a distance?

No need to get your panties in a bunch, I am not a pro-NATzO fanboi.

Even if wind was a factor, there was no evidence of any adjustment to the right unless you invoke the contrived argument that the wind was
ramping up just the right amount to compensate for the adjustment. The long range will increase scatter in general, but here it is not even
doing that so we are left with human error.

[quote="Scorpius"]

kvs wrote:
1. Shooting is conducted at a distance of 4.35 kilometers, if the rangefinder data is correct. The flight time of the projectile is from 7 to 8 seconds, and the fact that it is already falling almost vertically also indicates a SIGNIFICANT distance.
2. Repeats "The projectile goes to the left, take it to the right" - it is likely that this effect occurs due to the deflection of the projectile in flight (wind, perhaps).
3. Can we compare the accuracy of Western tanks when shooting at targets at such a distance?

The projectile path is actually straight, so it is not a wind caused deviation.
Either they have a different target parameters - the gunner and commander, or FCS malfunctioned.
I bet the second, as they call to recalibrate it, and try to correct the parameters manually - the last shot is just manual ride.

Is it true that the Russians abandoned a T-90M around izyum?

How tf did that happen? Why dont they booby trap or just blow them up?

limb wrote:Is it true that the Russians abandoned a T-90M around izyum?

How tf did that happen? Why dont they booby trap or just blow them up?

could be that there are traitors among the SMO personnel who are under NATzO payroll or maybe compromised or maybe even their family are held hostage by NATzO thugs

PhSt wrote:

limb wrote:Is it true that the Russians abandoned a T-90M around izyum?

How tf did that happen? Why dont they booby trap or just blow them up?

could be that there are traitors among the SMO personnel who are under NATzO payroll or maybe compromised or maybe even their family are held hostage by NATzO thugs

It's called fuckup

No complex explanation or convoluted coping narratives are necessary here

PhSt wrote:

limb wrote:Is it true that the Russians abandoned a T-90M around izyum?

How tf did that happen? Why dont they booby trap or just blow them up?

could be that there are traitors among the SMO personnel who are under NATzO payroll or maybe compromised or maybe even their family are held hostage by NATzO thugs

Most likely photos leaked or they were taken by Militias guys which were later captured with their phones or who knows....
Usually, Ukrainians would take a lot of selfies with captured tank, especially trophy like T-90M, but we didn't see them yet.......all of these idnicates that most likely this is fake news.

PhSt wrote:

limb wrote:Is it true that the Russians abandoned a T-90M around izyum?

How tf did that happen? Why dont they booby trap or just blow them up?

could be that there are traitors among the SMO personnel who are under NATzO payroll or maybe compromised or maybe even their family are held hostage by NATzO thugs

No need for that, just the usual chicken shit losers who run away before doing their jobs. Every group of a sufficient size will have those.
It was not just tanks, but other equipment that was abandoned without being torched.

I sincerely hope that the Russians had seriously taken into consideration the possibility that some up to date hardware could potentially fall into NATzO hands, by the time NATzO mad scientists develop a counter to this hardware, the Russians should have already introduced newer generation equipment that will nullify NATzO efforts.

I don't know how Russian military actions will change when this SMO is upgraded to ATO but I hope it happens much sooner and more NATzO orcs are Exterminated

And you are still discussing the thing that was known as ukrofake a week ago?
Seriously?

Any more complex equipment that Ukrainians took, like tanks or SPGs could have been torched with 10 liters of gas. How hard is that?

ALAMO wrote:And you are still discussing the thing that was known as ukrofake a week ago?
Seriously?

It's not the same case. These are completely new pics. Jury is still out if this is true or not.

caveat emptor wrote:Any more complex equipment that Ukrainians took, like tanks or SPGs could have been torched with 10 liters of gas. How hard is that?

I believe RGO handgrenades are designed with intend to sabotage equipment for such cases and they are handed out to motorized and mechanized units. **** ups like that shouldn't happen. There is also little explanation how such equipment was not possible to just be taken along with retreatment. Take the fuel you have and retreat even if it is 10km. If fuel was an issue, then great opertional level planning. /sarcasm

The target is a small group of infantry and the grenade is coming down on them, missing them by a few metres. Maybe the killzone of the HE-FRAG grenade wasn´t as big as suspected, that´s why they fired more shots to clearly get all of them.