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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #23
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The second stupid thing you can do guys is to fight each other while all see the same goal, only a different approach.
Because the first one is to bet on Ukrs in this show
Because the first one is to bet on Ukrs in this show
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The reappearing bots and anti-russian clowns, marching on all forums and all TG channels is just funnily self-evident of psyops by the West.
I really hope you clowns get paid well for your low quality psyops, winter is coming and you will need that money to pay some huge bills.
@Arky, you my not so much friend, if you don't get paid then you are probably the worst of the crowd. Just pathetic performance.
Your little pay checks will dry up in a few days and we won't see you twats again until the next coordinated Internet offensive.
I really hope you clowns get paid well for your low quality psyops, winter is coming and you will need that money to pay some huge bills.
@Arky, you my not so much friend, if you don't get paid then you are probably the worst of the crowd. Just pathetic performance.
Your little pay checks will dry up in a few days and we won't see you twats again until the next coordinated Internet offensive.
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flamming_python wrote:This thread has been overrun
And by coincidence the conversation has veered towards getting rid of Putin, Washingtons/Londons ultimate goal
Withdraw and nuke from orbit
Both the British and Ukrainians have mentioned the possibility of limited nuclear war. Putin using a tactical nuke is the ultimate kill shot for Western planners. The result - complete economic isolation of Russia including from China and the ultimate removal of Putin from power. The cost for readmittance to the "family of nation" - complete demilitarization and the removal of Russian nuclear potential.
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All this time I have seen reports from Russian telegram channels that Kharkov and other Ukrop cities are "being hit", then all of a sudden you hear Russians are abandoning positions in Kharkov. As a supporter of Russia this is a great disappointment. I don't know the kind of bombardment Russia is doing in Pukraine, but they have to increase it 100 folds and bury everything Pukranian 
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calripson wrote:flamming_python wrote:This thread has been overrun
And by coincidence the conversation has veered towards getting rid of Putin, Washingtons/Londons ultimate goal
Withdraw and nuke from orbit
Both the British and Ukrainians have mentioned the possibility of limited nuclear war. Putin using a tactical nuke is the ultimate kill shot for Western planners. The result - complete economic isolation of Russia including from China and the ultimate removal of Putin from power. The cost for readmittance to the "family of nation" - complete demilitarization and the removal of Russian nuclear potential.
Not if nukes are launched towards all NATzO counteies. If Russia goes, Everyone else goes
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ALAMO wrote:The second stupid thing you can do guys is to fight each other while all see the same goal, only a different approach.
Because the first one is to bet on Ukrs in this show
I wouldn't worry, it's people who rear their ugly opinions (armchair generals: Azi, Arch, Billy, Vann and his multiple accounts, etc) who jump in at these very specific moments. Werewolf and some others who have proven their military experience knows better and I would wager I trust their opinions more.
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Werewolf wrote:The reappearing bots and anti-russian clowns, marching on all forums and all TG channels is just funnily self-evident of psyops by the West.
I really hope you clowns get paid well for your low quality psyops, winter is coming and you will need that money to pay some huge bills.
@Arky, you my not so much friend, if you don't get paid then you are probably the worst of the crowd. Just pathetic performance.
Your little pay checks will dry up in a few days and we won't see you twats again until the next coordinated Internet offensive.
Naaaah, 99.9% of them are doing that for free.
Suckers
As we all
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I wouldn't worry, it's people who rear their ugly opinions (armchair generals: Azi, Arch, Billy, Vann and his multiple accounts, etc) who jump in at these very specific moments. Werewolf and some others who have proven their military experience knows better and I would wager I trust their opinions more.
As most of them are sitting in my private zoo, it is possible that I have lost a perspective
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flamming_python wrote:This thread has been overrun
And by coincidence the conversation has veered towards getting rid of Putin, Washingtons/Londons ultimate goal
Withdraw and nuke from orbit
Hopefully that does not happen, we need to active to not let that happen here.
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par far wrote:flamming_python wrote:This thread has been overrun
And by coincidence the conversation has veered towards getting rid of Putin, Washingtons/Londons ultimate goal
Withdraw and nuke from orbit
Hopefully that does not happen, we need to active to not let that happen here.
Internet warriors?
This is what living in alternate realities and consuming propaganda (official and unofficial from your favorite grifter analysts living the life in the west) does to a brain.
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Arkanghelsk wrote:So now the second post.
To restate. This is a major defeat. All territory gained by Russia in the Kharkov Oblast save the most northern parts, looks like it will be completely abandoned. This will severely shake Russia's credibility in Ukraine, in Russia itself and in the world. The Russian authorities promised that 'Russia is here forever' and it quickly abandoned Kharkov - which is a city founded by Russian Tsars and not in the Russian imagination a foreign city.
The Ukrainians - by all accounts punched forward with a powerful fist - their most powerful yet and barely grazed the Russians. From 6 to 10 September they attacked and whenever they met resistance from a Russian unit of appreciable size they were always halted or thrown back. From 6 to 10 September 2022 the Rosgvardia and then the VDV fought while being heavily outnumbered in Balakleya for 4 fays and prevented the Ukrainians from capturing a town they had clearly reckoned to capture on day 1 or day 2 of their offensive, judging by UKR telegram posts and a number of false claims they had captured it and/or overrun the garrison. Russian forces throughout all of this demonstrated high morale and never retreated until ordered to. This makes the complete abandonment of the position utterly baffling and questionable from both a military and, in this author's opinion, political standpoint. Military the Russians tied significant Ukrainian forces to Kharkov city and to near Izyum and Slavyansk that were not directly in front of Donetsk. Now the Ukrainians can concentrate their forces.
This leads to the conclusion. More Russian troops are not on their way, the Russians were taken by surprise at the force of the blow - and Putin is not releasing more troops to the operation.
The contrast between a masterful defense in Kherson and - at the operational level, tactically Russian forces performed at worst acceptably if not better - the abysmal defense of Kharkov Oblast will have consequences. Now is that the time to doom though - and not to be optimistic. Now is the time to be angry. If you are Russian, demand that more be done. If you are Ukrainian and live in areas where the Russians are, demand that they protect you and be serious. If you are not Russian, urge these things - for the Ukrainians have made no secret of what they will do to those they see as 'collaborators' which is to say anyone who so much as accepted Russian humanitarian aid packages. It is encouraging that Russia has begun more seriously evacuating civilians to keep them out of harm's way but they should never have been put there in the first place.
The responsibility for this goes to the very top - to the political decision makers. They have choices they need to make if they want to win - and we should do whatever we can to urge them to do it.
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The time has come enough is enough
Putin, shoigu, someone has to step down
This is not a major defeat and nobody has to step down you fucking clown.
The Ukies took control of territory that was thinly defended and that has little overall affect on the whole picture.
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ATLASCUB wrote:par far wrote:flamming_python wrote:This thread has been overrun
And by coincidence the conversation has veered towards getting rid of Putin, Washingtons/Londons ultimate goal
Withdraw and nuke from orbit
Hopefully that does not happen, we need to active to not let that happen here.
Internet warriors?
This is what living an alternate realities and consuming propaganda (official and unofficial from your favorite grifter analysts does to a brain).
Brain is fine, I know what is happening on ground.
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par far wrote:
The Ukies took control of territory that was thinly defended and that has little overall affect on the whole picture.
But why is the area thinly defended in the first place? Or is this just an excuse? Why haven't Russia detected the massive build up of NATzo forces that will be thrown into the Kharkov direction? Why didn't Russian suppression fire eliminate the NATzO advance? Again, this kind of performance is not whats expected from the world's 2nd/3rd most powerful military force
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #23
Walther von Oldenburg Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:56 pm
Russia has turned out to be a paper tiger beyond anyone's imagination to a degree that would be considered impossible just a year ago.
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Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Russia has turned out to be a paper tiger beyond anyone's imagination to a degree that would be considered impossible just a year ago.
It chewed up Ukrainian/natos best proxy force with one hand tied behind it's back. enjoy your doom
Btw this guy has a literal Nazi name
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PhSt wrote:
But why is the area thinly defended in the first place? Or is this just an excuse? Why haven't Russia detected the massive build up of NATzo forces that will be thrown into the Kharkov direction? Why didn't Russian suppression fire eliminate the NATzO advance? Again, this kind of performance is not whats expected from the world's 2nd/3rd most powerful military force
You can't judge that objectively not having a parallel.
No NATO/US conflict since Vietnam was on par with it.
Froggies have been overrun at Dien Bien Phu.
Americans have been overrun several times in both Korea and Vietnam - we are comparing apples to apples, right?
We talk about the biggest military conflict since Desert Storm.
And the disparity is much smaller than it was there.
Just take a breath and torn on analytics.
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PhSt wrote:par far wrote:
The Ukies took control of territory that was thinly defended and that has little overall affect on the whole picture.
But why is the area thinly defended in the first place? Or is this just an excuse? Why haven't Russia detected the massive build up of NATzo forces that will be thrown into the Kharkov direction? Why didn't Russian suppression fire eliminate the NATzO advance? Again, this kind of performance is not whats expected from the world's 2nd/3rd most powerful military force
They've been doing precision strikes in that direction daily.
The doomers on the Russia side make me sick
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #23
caveat emptor Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:04 pm
Then you don't remember Chechen wars. That was a real **** show.Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Russia has turned out to be a paper tiger beyond anyone's imagination to a degree that would be considered impossible just a year ago.
My question still remains. How do you fold whole theater with 9000 soldiers in 3-4 days? I just hope that Russian soldiers left territory south of Izyum.
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caveat emptor wrote:
Then you don't remember Chechen wars. That was a real **** show.
My question still remains. How do you fold whole theater with 9000 soldiers in 3-4 days? I just hope that Russian soldiers left territory south of Izyum.
Quite easy bro.
It seems that there was a few hundred of Russkie covering forces there, and that's it.
Is it a fuckup or a trap, we will see.
As far as we know, there are close to zero Russkie lost, thousands of Ukrs, and we do worry about the civilians left there.
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caveat emptor Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:07 pm
It's a German name. It literally means Walther from Oldenburg. I'm not sure there was ever a Nazi with that name.Backman wrote:
Btw this guy has a literal Nazi name
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #23
Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:08 pm
The losses of territory are not to be discussed. How long was used to take these areas? What did it cost about blood?
They started on September 7th with the offensive and on day 3 more and more areas are falling to the enemy faster and faster. The civilians were sold for the second time. A third time they will be careful not to approach Russia.
If there were so few troops, yes where are they all at once? On the first day there was still resistance, on the second day they were on retreat and now they are withdrawn almost to Russia. This is more like the withdrawal from Kyiv in northern East and north west.
What should the Russian troops actually think of it? What's going on here? Where is the Air Force? Ukraine has practically zero air cover.
The morals of the fascists and NATO climbs and climbs. Where is the stop? Where is it against counterattack? Where is an offensive that brings the enemy in danger here?
Battle for Kursk. Counterattack in the north and south. Only that made the Nazis stop. But here is only withdrawal to withdrawal and this is faster and faster.
What happens tomorrow? Where do the Nazis stop? Overstretched? The backs are faster and faster. What is going on here?
They started on September 7th with the offensive and on day 3 more and more areas are falling to the enemy faster and faster. The civilians were sold for the second time. A third time they will be careful not to approach Russia.
If there were so few troops, yes where are they all at once? On the first day there was still resistance, on the second day they were on retreat and now they are withdrawn almost to Russia. This is more like the withdrawal from Kyiv in northern East and north west.
What should the Russian troops actually think of it? What's going on here? Where is the Air Force? Ukraine has practically zero air cover.
The morals of the fascists and NATO climbs and climbs. Where is the stop? Where is it against counterattack? Where is an offensive that brings the enemy in danger here?
Battle for Kursk. Counterattack in the north and south. Only that made the Nazis stop. But here is only withdrawal to withdrawal and this is faster and faster.
What happens tomorrow? Where do the Nazis stop? Overstretched? The backs are faster and faster. What is going on here?
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caveat emptor wrote:Then you don't remember Chechen wars. That was a real **** show.Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Russia has turned out to be a paper tiger beyond anyone's imagination to a degree that would be considered impossible just a year ago.
My question still remains. How do you fold whole theater with 9000 soldiers in 3-4 days? I just hope that Russian soldiers left territory south of Izyum.
They took it all back after Karkiv doom 1.0. That was all a big psyop with retards like Zoka dooming the whole way.
How is Ukraine going to have the material to actually hold any of this the 3rd time ?
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This isn't really complicated.
The Kremlin boys have two simple choices: defeat and capitulation = aka a negotiated solution or double down and regime change.
Basically the only real choices they ever had... even if they dreamed of some other "civilized" option as they cowered in fear of not being able to deliver total victory. Fear is one's worst enemy.
Should have had the balls to do what was required in 2014... better yet, should have not allowed 2014 to materialize. First line of defence failed (prevention of coup), second line of defence failed (intervening with stronger hand in 2014 post coup), and the third line (SMO) is shaky right now. The "wise" Kremlin boys continue to show they still carry their predecessor genes in them... same flaws that led an empire to silent defeat. Better get some of it fixed soon.
The Kremlin boys have two simple choices: defeat and capitulation = aka a negotiated solution or double down and regime change.
Basically the only real choices they ever had... even if they dreamed of some other "civilized" option as they cowered in fear of not being able to deliver total victory. Fear is one's worst enemy.
Should have had the balls to do what was required in 2014... better yet, should have not allowed 2014 to materialize. First line of defence failed (prevention of coup), second line of defence failed (intervening with stronger hand in 2014 post coup), and the third line (SMO) is shaky right now. The "wise" Kremlin boys continue to show they still carry their predecessor genes in them... same flaws that led an empire to silent defeat. Better get some of it fixed soon.
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flamming_python Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:10 pm
The infection is at such an advanced stage that victims are competing with each other over who generates more panic porn orgasms
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Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:The losses of territory are not to be discussed. How long was used to take these areas? What did it cost about blood?
They started on September 7th with the offensive and on day 3 more and more areas are falling to the enemy faster and faster. The civilians were sold for the second time. A third time they will be careful not to approach Russia.
If there were so few troops, yes where are they all at once? On the first day there was still resistance, on the second day they were on retreat and now they are withdrawn almost to Russia. This is more like the withdrawal from Kyiv in northern East and north west.
What should the Russian troops actually think of it? What's going on here? Where is the Air Force? Ukraine has practically zero air cover.
The morals of the fascists and NATO climbs and climbs. Where is the stop? Where is it against counterattack? Where is an offensive that brings the enemy in danger here?
Battle for Kursk. Counterattack in the north and south. Only that made the Nazis stop. But here is only withdrawal to withdrawal and this is faster and faster.
What happens tomorrow? Where do the Nazis stop? Overstretched? The backs are faster and faster. What is going on here?
Think of it as the same as Kharkiv doom 1.0.
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