Russian special military operation in Ukraine #23

TMA1 wrote:Russia is playing the game with what they have in a position where declaring war would be an undesired escalation. The west wants Russia to declare war so the west can feel legitimized to mobilize against it. To what degree they would mobilize I don't even want to imagine. The west has gone mad. Thry were hoping thry could create such disasters outside and inside Russia's border to regime change Putin. When Putin invaded they went mad. Some of my politicians openly called on the assassination of Putin. This is highly unusual in a historical context. Our leaders here in the west see this as a fight for legitimacy. An attack on their "rules based" world order.

So no. only a small few of you demoralization shills are posting in good faith. The others support fag flag waving globohomo and their unipolar world order. They are slithery snakes that want Russia to fail and for some reason find it important to post on a fairly insignificant Russian military enthusiast site. Strange. Wonder who pays that well that their shills even post here. I hear lots about Putin bots. It is the western governments and NGOs paying hundreds of millions in propaganda, not Russia.

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:
Civilians have now been left to the Fascho Mob twice. How do you want to conquer the hearts of people there if you leave them so easily to the fascist Mob? What is the goal????
Russen free from fascists! What is not the goal? Course the civilist from fascist not torture! Civilians who to wanted to protect, go to freedom!
No more fun! Weeks, months 1 meter per day and NATO goes 60 km in 2 days and on ??? What were the Russian victims worth free to free cities? Nothing!
That's ridiculous. NATO is encouraged from day to day more weapons to deliver stronger weapons. To strike in other places in the world! Anyone who shows weakness is eaten!
Credible militarily drones can be done buddies and not let such a crap be done here!
End of the party! Massive now finally bombs, with everything that works and show: Whoever thinks the Russian bear is annoying to torture and clean their citizens! On the spot!
Go to War with all !!!

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Draw own conclusions

Podlodka77 wrote:

The conclusion is that you are either a child or a person who is not in good contact with himself because you do not have any balance and your personal attitude.
I wouldn't even rule out the possibility that you are doing all this on purpose for someone else's interests...
I see you as an enemy, to be honest..

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Draw own conclusions

flamming_python wrote:Has Izyum actually fallen or is someone just drawing a silly map and the usual yellowbellies and doomists on Telegram spreading panic?

flamming_python wrote:

zorobabel wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Draw own conclusions

All part of the plan

Russia could stop this advance any moment. They have enough troops to defend territory. Instead they're being withdrawn

So draw your own conclusions

flamming_python wrote:
They will have their orgies on Twitter and Telegram and their Western cheerleaders on social media will be saying 'we won!', 'we've shown they can be beaten back!', and all the rest of this claptrap
Only it makes no difference to Russia as it has no fks to give, it will just use the opportunity to take out more Ukrainian forces and then move back in
And I have no doubt that the Russians planned for everything. It went public, FFS, that Zaluzhny was convincing Zelensky about the expediency of an offensive towards Izyum just 3 weeks. And hey presto, they've launched an offensive against Izyum
Yet some personalities here and on Telegram are insisting that this is some sort of disaster, Russia didn't see anything coming, not enough men, taken by surprise, etc...
Absolute nonsense.

Isos wrote:Biggest looser of the war is the su-34. Junk aircraft. Su-35 was successful when used but can't be used for close support. Su-25/ka-52/mi-28 used as MLRS system.

franco wrote:The Russians have fought this operation with a very small number of troops on the ground... This week that caught up with them. Some people complain about the non use of reserves but to me the non use of conscripts is a major factor. Can understand not using the conscripts in their first 6 months however those over 6 months would allow deployment of another 80,000 troops. For those expecting a 50,000 3rd Corps to arrive, don't! Numbers are only 15-20,000 and those guys will go on the line, not on the offense. And yes, losing Izyum is not good. I also can't imagine the terror about to be unleashed on the pro-Russian Ukrainians in this zone to cause "warm and fuzzy" feelings to those in other Russian occupied areas.  

Azi wrote:Was only used a few times. You can't say that! Russia used systems for a low attack like Su-25, the Su-34 is best for attacks out of manpad range.

But this also a mystery why Russia don't use the big birds....are really soo many S-300 and Buk still active???