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    Post  Hole Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:13 pm

    kvs wrote:You are basically invoking an appeal to authority.   Nobody's claims are justified based on their "credentials".    I could care less if this was some hero of the Donbass.
    What he is spewing is pure nonsense.
    He is an infantry soldier. Or was one. He is no General with access to all the recon data and planning happening behind closed doors in Moscow. Russia has the strategic initiative and is killing enemy forces everywhere in country 404. In a few month Russia will be able to send in the Border Guards to crush the last resistance.

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    Post  Hole Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:19 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #22 - Page 31 Fbgmcu10
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #22 - Page 31 Fbgmix10
    Counter-counter-offensive.  Very Happy
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #22 - Page 31 Fbgzvy10
    Yandex translation.  Rolling Eyes From a VDV guy on the ground.

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    Post  Ispan Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:52 pm

    I got some sleep and since I can't go to bed early it's midnight already, I was inspired to compile my notes during the past weeks and write a report on the big picture on all fronts up to the current enemy offensive in Kherson



    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/08/31/noticias-de-la-guerra-31-08-2022-resumen-de-agosto/

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    Post  d_taddei2 Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:57 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #22 - Page 31 Img_2150

    Ukrops punched through Sukhoi Stavok, we will see if they can expand the bridgehead

    They're swinging on right flank of our guys if they link up with the front it's gonna be trouble

    Looks more like Ukrainians are creating their own cauldron to be exterminated. I wouldn't be surprised if Russia fell back to created a trap lure as much as they can into a thin narrow corridor before closing the lid and shelling the hell out off what's trapped. lol!

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:31 am

    Sujoy wrote:Ukrainian MIG -29 launching HARM

    ...only for the missile to embed itself into the mud (defeated by Russian ECM) or blasted out of the sky (shot down by Ruussian Pantisr/Tor).

    Yawn... Murkan junk on Soviet-era warplanes. Yeah... a real game changer clown

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    Post  ucmvulcan Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:41 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:Ukrainian MIG -29 launching HARM

    ...only for the missile to embed itself into the mud (defeated by Russian ECM) or blasted out of the sky (shot down by Ruussian Pantisr/Tor).

    Yawn...  Murkan junk on Soviet-era warplanes.   Yeah... a real game changer clown

    And it is, every American weapon is automatically better than Russia. Yeah, the next game changers are the Sean Penn fighter regiment's F-16s flown by Afghans who flew helicopters, crop dusters, and cargo planes. The American press will report that's Penn's planes encountered localized, solely to Ukraine, climate change factors caused by Chernobyl that caused metal fatigue and caused the craft to spontaneously explode and break apart in mid air and it most certainly could not be Russian sams and and air to air rockets responsible and any video evidence posted of Russian planes shooting down F-16s are lies put out by the Russian ministry of defense.

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    Post  Serberus Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:23 am

    🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡About 06:00 Moscow time, Ukrainian troops landed on the coast of the Kakhovka reservoir three kilometers northeast of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant in two sabotage groups of up to 60 people on seven boats and attempted to seize the power plant - Russian Defense Ministry
    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/22227

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:33 am

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:Ukrainian MIG -29 launching HARM

    ...only for the missile to embed itself into the mud (defeated by Russian ECM) or blasted out of the sky (shot down by Ruussian Pantisr/Tor).

    Yawn...  Murkan junk on Soviet-era warplanes.   Yeah... a real game changer clown

    And it is, every American weapon is automatically better than Russia.  Yeah, the next game changers are the Sean Penn fighter regiment's F-16s flown by Afghans who flew helicopters, crop dusters, and cargo planes.  The American press will report that's Penn's planes encountered localized, solely to Ukraine, climate change factors caused by Chernobyl that caused metal fatigue and caused the craft to spontaneously explode and break apart in mid air and it most certainly could not be Russian sams and and air to air rockets responsible and any video evidence posted of Russian planes shooting down F-16s are lies put out by the Russian ministry of defense.

    Yet you should not forget that a million fleas can kill a dragon.
    The most important part of the Russkie strategy is that winter is coming.
    And I am serious. In opposite to how Texas sees it.
    Winter will force Europe to roll over or fade away into the darkness. Literally.
    Otherwise, mass protests will start all over it. Right now, things are being calmed down with a massive load of Russophobia, but slowly but steady, people in let's say Poland, waiting in lines for 3 days to get a load of coal from the coalmine, will really start to give a shit about the Ukro issue.
    As people in the UK are used to taking the dead corpses of older people from their homes, as they died of cold - the Germans are not.
    Neither French. Nor Poles.
    There are 200k Ukro kids that will start a schoolyear today in the Polish education system. That was dead&ineffective even before that. About 1000 teachers are missing country-wide, and schools used to be overcrowded even before that. Applying 200k kids out of the system, most of them never spoke Polish, will be a bomb blast.
    Yesterday, Hungary signed an additional deal with Gazprom ending up with approx. 2 bln m3 gas. Extra gas, above the existing contracts that were enough for Hungary. That gas is for sell. Hungary will get a big check for the other's stupidity.

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    Post  Tolstoy Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:12 am

    Stealthflanker wrote:You know back here in Indonesia we were manufacturing dumb bombs for our Su-27 and Su-30's.  Despite similarities in look the early batches were unsafe because turns out they have different pressure distribution. Thus we need to tinker around more until finally we can make something as proper as the original Russian made.  
    If Indians are to be believed they have designed and tested air to air missiles apart from dumb bombs and air to ground missiles for their fleet of Su 30MKIs.
    I wonder how did they manage to? They don't have a defence industry of repute and their military survives by importing foreign weapons.
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    Post  VARGR198 Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:56 am


    Kiev attempted to seize the Nuclear power plant on the day international inspectors were to arrive to see who was shelling it.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:51 am

    Tolstoy wrote:
    Stealthflanker wrote:You know back here in Indonesia we were manufacturing dumb bombs for our Su-27 and Su-30's.  Despite similarities in look the early batches were unsafe because turns out they have different pressure distribution. Thus we need to tinker around more until finally we can make something as proper as the original Russian made.  
    If Indians are to be believed they have designed and tested air to air missiles apart from dumb bombs and air to ground missiles for their fleet of Su 30MKIs.
    I wonder how did they manage to? They don't have a defence industry of repute and their military survives by importing foreign weapons.

    While not in the league of the "big" guys of weapons R&D and production, India is certainly no slouch.

    Mind you, they have a domestic space program, domestic nukes, domestic aircraft etc.

    Yes, they rely on imports for their armed forces in general but a homebrewn AA missile doesn't sound particularly strange.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:05 am

    VARGR198 wrote:
    Kiev attempted to seize the Nuclear power plant on the day international inspectors were to arrive to see who was shelling it.

    They're freaking unhinged.

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    Post  Belisarius Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:32 am

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:37 am

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    VARGR198 wrote:
    Kiev attempted to seize the Nuclear power plant on the day international inspectors were to arrive to see who was shelling it.

    They're freaking unhinged.

    Seriously.
    As we are talking about 60 men squad driven in 7 boats, how in detail do they plan to reconquest&occupy the atomic power plant for any other cause than staging a terrorist act?

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:02 pm

    I haven't bothered much with the "meme:ing" and name-calling, feels like it's beneath me. Now though, that long running "Slava Cocaini" thing feels oddly apt.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:18 pm

    Looking from the video, the MiG's didnt fly high. Clearly to avoid being picked by S-300/400's. The upgrades doesnt seem to bring special changes in the aircraft. I would believe the HARM is "read" as R-27 in the MiG's store management, but no link to the fire control whatsoever. The target are programmed from the ground like a cruise missile.

    It probably has a launch mode where radar signals are detected and locked and flown towards till impact or the radar is turned off or the HARM is shot down...

    Not ideal but useful for aircraft penetrating enemy airspace where they don't know where the enemy radar is until it turns on and starts to scan.

    Where's home for that Mig? Can Russian awacs or satellites track and destroy it plus base? How many damned jets have they left? Must be FA surely?

    MiG-29s can operate from any stretch of motorway or flat hard ground...

    Destroying them in the air gets rid of the pilots too... and they are now in short supply.

    I'm assuming the HARM is being used in a mode with no targeting information on what specific radar to home in on. Just relying on coordinates of where the air defence site is before launching.

    Likely connected it to the RWR and any ground based radar paints the aircraft directs the HARMs antenna in that direction... fire...

    Some dodgy Western media outlet claims that Shoigu has been dismissed by Putin due to "lacking successes". Is that in any way true?

    Even the best western media outlets are crap... what hope for a dodgy one?

    Putin couldn't fire Shoigu because Putin is dead from cancer and the fake that pretends to be Putin has no real power at all... he is just a figurehead... Rolling Eyes

    The hype this is getting is well beyond its actual significance. This is more HIMARS wunderwaffen wishful thinking.

    BUK, TOR, Pantsir and Tunguska can all shoot down HARMs easily and effectively, and in conflicts where none of these systems was even present the HARM had a horrible success rate... its primary use is by US strike packages to get enemy SAM and radar units to turn off their radars while they sneak past...

    They don't seem to understand that Winter is Russia's most trusted ally. Anyone thinking this military operation is going to pause in November will be in for a rude awakening, I expect Russia's airforce will take a more prominent role when Bandera's cannon fodder have no foliage to hide themselves and their anti-aircraft systems under.

    Thermal optics will be more effective in winter...

    Fires to keep warm will provide UAVs plenty of sightings too one would think.

    Mobile units will struggle to keep hidden.

    But, i can see how every day shelling continuing after six months after the start of war can have negative effect on morale.

    They likely thought six months ago that the Russians are helping us, the shelling will stop... when the Brits declared war on Germany the first thing that happened in Britain was air raid sirens went off... and rumours of a gas attack... fears from WWI of course... nothing actually happened for months... it was called the Phoney war at the time.

    The question is , why would the Americans even bother with it ? Do they hope the Migs will force Radar to reveal itself and shoot down the said Mig ? Then they are sacrificed a Ukrop pilot life to gain such information . The Mig firing the Harm , can be taken out by another plane , without risking any long range AD over it . And regarding the Ukrop " advance " near Kherson , someone said they had to bring troops from other places , meaning they are concentrated in very small area , lightly armed in the middle of Russian troops , concentrated in a narrow front ? Yes completely genius !

    Super weapons that aren't are a cheap way of pretending you are helping. HARMS reputation in most real wars is not so good. The British ALARM is much better, but HARMS record not so good... more a cheap simple way of getting the enemy to turn their radar off... but this enemy will keep their radar on and simply shoot down both the missile and the aircraft...

    Maybe Romanian MiG's firing Israeli missiles but that one is long gone now. and i am not wanking. If you think weapon integration are easy.. it is not.

    Normally it is not, but HARM can be fired in a very simple mode against active radar emissions the aircrafts RWR detects... the HARM can be powered up and look and get a lock on the radar signal and launched... if the radar shuts down the missile will miss... their hit probability is horrendous but most of the time they are carried by strike aircraft to make any radar on the way shut down while they sneak past. Wild Weasel aircraft have more sophisticated systems that locate the radar location so the HARM continues even if the radar shuts down... this is a brand new feature for HARM, but AS-11 and AS-12 and AS-17 have been doing that for decades.

    Yet you should not forget that a million fleas can kill a dragon.

    Nah... a million fleas burn like wheat... and no little flea could bite through dragon skin.

    Winter will force Europe to roll over or fade away into the darkness. Literally.

    Winter will make Europe think about other things... backroom deals and enormous stepdowns...

    If Indians are to be believed they have designed and tested air to air missiles apart from dumb bombs and air to ground missiles for their fleet of Su 30MKIs.
    I wonder how did they manage to? They don't have a defence industry of repute and their military survives by importing foreign weapons.

    I don't think he is saying it is impossible, but it is not just a case of adapting the attachment points and plug in a USB cable connector and it is ready to go with full symbology on the HUD and full avionics support for all the features of the weapon.

    Some missile launch off the rail and others are dropped and then start their motors away from the aircraft.

    The airflow around aircraft is different... the R-77 for instance has a pneumatic arm that actually throws the missile down and clear of the aircraft before launch because it was designed at a time when stealth fighters were a thing so it is designed to be launched from inside a weapon bay.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:54 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    The airflow around aircraft is different... the R-77 for instance has a pneumatic arm that actually throws the missile down and clear of the aircraft before launch because it was designed at a time when stealth fighters were a thing so it is designed to be launched from inside a weapon bay.


    Well, on the Flanker series which the R-77/RVV-AE was developed for there are also two racks in tandem in the "tunnel" between the engine nacelles.

    Kinda want the missiles to clear that before they ignite. Front one would torch the other if fired first otherwise, rear one would fly into the front one if fired first. Plus the Flanker nose has a significant droop seen from that perspective, leaving little margin there if you're maneuvering meanwhile.

    Goes for R-27s etc as well, which are on occasion put there. I don't know which "UVKU" it is, but it forcibly throws them down.

    Might be a programmed ignition delay too? Though the same missiles when launched from wing pylons just go straight, as far as I remember.
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    Post  LMFS Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:03 pm

    Russian Ministry of Defense
    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine ⚡ ️ (01.09.2022)


    Part 1 (see part 2)

    On the morning of September 1, the Kiev regime attempted a major provocation to disrupt the arrival of the IAEA working group of experts at the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant.

    At 6: 20 on the coast of the Kakhovka reservoir, three kilometers north-east of the Zaporizhia NPP, two sabotage groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a total number of up to 60 people landed on seven high-speed motorboats. The sabotage groups were detected and blocked in the landing area by Rosgvardiya units guarding the territory of the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant.

    To prevent an attempt to enter the nuclear power plant and destroy Ukrainian saboteurs, a unit of the Russian armed forces arrived to reinforce the Rosgvardiya military personnel, and army aviation helicopters were also involved. Currently, the destruction of the Ukrainian sabotage group is being completed.

    At about seven o'clock in the morning, units of the Russian armed forces stopped another landing attempt to seize a nuclear power plant. A few kilometers from the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant in the area of the village of Vodiane, an attempt was made to land tactical troops of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on two self-propelled barges that left Nikopol. As a result of fire damage by the Russian armed forces, two self-propelled barges with tactical troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were sunk.

    Starting from 8 a.m., the Kiev regime blocked the passage of the IAEA mission of experts from the controlled territory to the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant. Ukrainian artillery is firing on the territory of the Zaporizhia NPP, the meeting place of the IAEA mission with Russian specialists near the village of Vasilyevka, as well as the route of their movement to Energodar. Four shells exploded at a distance of 400 meters from the first power unit of Zaporizhia NPP.

    Despite the attempts of the Kiev regime to disrupt the arrival of the IAEA group of experts at the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant, the Russian side confirms its readiness to accept them with full security of further work. The situation in the area of the nuclear power plant is difficult, but remains under full control.

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    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine ⚡ ️ (01.09.2022)

    Part 2 (see part 1)

    During the day, the Kiev regime continued unsuccessful attempts of offensive actions in the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction.

    Russian Aerospace Forces aircraft, rocket troops and artillery inflicted a significant defeat on the advancing units and reserves of the Ukrainian troops. Over the past day alone, the enemy has lost 31 tanks, 22 infantry fighting vehicles, 18 other armored combat vehicles, 8 pickups with heavy machine guns, 17 special vehicles and more than 350 military personnel in the course of military operations in this area.

    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue a special military operation in Ukraine.

    As a result of the fire defeat of units of the 14th mechanized brigade in the area of the settlement of Russkie Tishki, an attempt of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to advance in the Kharkiv direction was thwarted. The enemy's losses amounted to more than fifty people. The remaining soldiers of the brigade in the number of 56 people attempted to withdraw in the direction of Kharkiv. At the exit to the north-western outskirts of Saltovka, soldiers of the 14th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine came under fire from the positions of the nationalist Kraken formation, which destroyed most of them.

    Strikes of high-precision weapons of the Russian Aerospace Forces on the temporary location of units of the 93rd mechanized brigade in the area of the settlement of Chasov Yar in the Donetsk People's Republic eliminated more than 100 nationalists and 15 units of military equipment. The personnel of the 72nd mechanized Brigade units in the Artyomovsk area of the Donetsk People's Republic, due to heavy losses, low equipment and lack of fire support, refused to follow the orders of the command, left their positions and left for the rear.

    Strikes by operational-tactical and army aircraft, rocket troops and artillery against military facilities on the territory of Ukraine continue. Four control points were hit during the day including: The 14th mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area of Kutuzovka, Kharkiv region, the command and observation post of the battalion of the 93rd mechanized brigade in the area of Dmitrovka, Kharkiv region, as well as 59 artillery units, manpower and military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 144 districts. In the areas of Chasov Yar and Artemivsk of the Donetsk People's Republic, two control points of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed by unmanned aerial vehicles. A fire platoon of American M777 howitzers was destroyed near Andreevka, Kherson region. Eight warehouses of rocket and artillery weapons and ammunition were also destroyed in the areas of Dorozhnyanka, Malinovka, Zaporizhia region, Kavkaz, Bereznegovatoe, Zhovtnevoe, Velikoe Artakovo, Mykolaiv region, Novoukrainka, Donetsk People's Republic, and Kolomiytsy, Dnipropetrovsk region.

    Russian air defense systems have shot down eight unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of Yakovenkovo, Volchiy Yar, Shpakovka, Kislovka, Glinskoye, Kapitolovka in Kharkiv region, Petrovka and Lyubimovka in Kherson region.
    Also intercepted: one Tochka-U ballistic missile in the Bezymyannoye area in the Kherson region and 48 multiple launch rocket systems, including 44 MLRS "HIMARS", in the areas of Muzykovka, Znamenka, Veseloe, Kamenka, Daryevka, Novaya Kakhovka, Beryslav, Dnipro and Tomarino.
    In the area of the Antonovsky Bridge, Russian air defense systems shot down two AGM-88 HARM anti-radar missiles manufactured in the United States.

    Since the beginning of the special military operation, 280 aircraft, 151 helicopters, 1,852 unmanned aerial vehicles, 371 anti-aircraft missile systems, 4,663 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 822 multiple launch rocket systems, 3,363 field artillery and mortar guns, and 5,192 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

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    > That makes it already 241 armored vehicles and more than 2050 soldiers wasted on the mighty Kherson counteroffensive. It is only normal that Odessa major is now talking about negotiations Wink

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    Post  Hole Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:36 pm

    The Transcarpathian region declared tomorrow a day of mourning because of the huge success of the "offensive".
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    The whole circus around the NPP reminds me of the Red Cross convoy being shelled on his way to eastern Aleppo. Russia and Syria let them in, the terrorists tried to block them and suddenly "someone" ( Rolling Eyes) shot at them. Fake russian bombs were planted in some building nearby.
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    Some of the terrorists landed there. 2 km from the NPP.

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    Post  bandit6 Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:43 pm

    Hi everyone, I just wanted to ask if anyone here thinks that Russia might eventually end up having to create a foreign legion to bolster it's infantry numbers as the war goes on

    If they ever do it the azovites would probably go crazy having to fight Arabs, Asians, or Africans
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    Post  LMFS Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:24 pm

    Russian Ministry of Defense
    The military actions of Ukrainian sabotage groups unleashed on the day of the arrival of the IAEA experts with artillery attacks on the Zaporizhia nuclear Power Plant by the Ukrainian Armed Forces leave no doubt that the Zelensky regime was preparing this military provocation in advance.

    It was precisely with the completion of the preparation of the operation to seize the Zaporozhye NPP by Ukrainian saboteurs on the day of the arrival of the IAEA experts that R. Grossi's visit to the plant was canceled on August 31, instead of which his "unscheduled" meeting with V. Zelensky took place.

    It is obvious that if the operation of the Kiev regime to seize the station is successful, the head of the IAEA R. V. Putin will be able to do so.Grossi and the mission's experts would become a "human shield" for Ukrainian saboteurs to prevent any actions to destroy them by Russian armed forces units.

    The role of the IAEA mission in this case would be to fix a new status quo - "The Zaporizhia NPP has come under the full control of Kiev", with a new wave of loud statements from Washington and European capitals calling on Russia to ensure a "demilitarized zone" around the NPP, where IAEA observers should remain under the protection of the Ukrainian military.

    This provocation was thwarted by the effective actions of units of the Russian armed forces and Rosgvardiya. At present, the IAEA mission led by R. Grossi has arrived at the nuclear power plant and started scheduled work, while the Russian side fully ensures its safety. The position of R. Grossi and his team, who nevertheless went to the station, despite the provocations of Kiev and the shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, deserves respect.

    In this regard, we fully understand the deathly silence of all Western sponsors of the Zelensky regime, which actually confirms their secret participation in the preparation of today's provocation at the Zaporizhia NPP. At the same time, the lack of a public reaction to Kiev's actions in the area of the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant by UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres is justifiably puzzling.

    Such silence not only casts a shadow and casts doubt on the objectivity of the UN's approach to the situation around the Zaporizhia NPP, but also leads to a further escalation of the situation there, with complete impunity for the Kiev regime.

    # Urgent @mod_russia

    > Poor nazi clowns, they lost their chance to get control of ZNPP and steal the energy for their masters. The plant will serve the people of Novorussia, not EU twats...

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    Post  franco Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:33 pm

    There are reports that this involved training by the SAS (UK spetsnaz) for this operation. Other reports have 160 men each in the two barges that were to follow up on the 60 commandos. Russians appeared to have been aware and waiting...

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