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    Post  LMFS Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:41 am

    crod wrote:Any conformation on what’s happening?

    The annihilation of the ukie armed forces


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    Post  LMFS Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:43 am

    crod wrote:Why are they needing to create such units though? Surely there are enough reserves of well trained soldiers to relieve the different fighting units etc? Would it not be better to send these better trained servicemen into battle? If Russia only deployed 80k as stated here, that leaves 100ks of regular forces to rotate with, whom are much better equipped to fight in a real war due to do their years of training etc. Is it not risky sending in barely trained units or what am I missing here folks?

    This is the basis for a general mobilization in case the need arises. Plus it will have a powerful effect in the patriotic education of the society.

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    Post  Werewolf Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:44 am

    So, Ukrainian jets are completely denied to fly in Ukraine by Russian Airforce and PVO, but now they have HARM and maybe, big maybe, have fitted it on 2-4 jets and want to launch a mediocre missile with just max 150km range while S-400 can snipe it out of the sky before they can launch it?

    If they made some jet fighters able to launch this HARMs then they are basically sending them on a suicide mission just for a chance to hit something for Twitter giggles?

    I assume after calling HARM "mediocre" our Seig will come and run his mouth again. Laughing Laughing

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    Post  franco Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:44 am

    Colonel Ruslan Trihub, head of the Darnytsia territorial recruitment center (military enlistment office) in Kyiv, bitterly told that after the start of general mobilization, the flow of volunteers who wanted to fight in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine had critically dried up. According to the military commissar, if a few months ago “there were some difficulties due to the large flow of volunteers who wanted to get weapons and go to defend Ukraine,” now the picture is completely different.

    All the queues in the territorial centers that are shown on television are people who want to get a deferral, go through a medical commission, or those who came for some other issues. Out of a hundred volunteers, there will be about three - Trigub stated sadly.

    FULL ARTICLE: https://topwar-ru.translate.goog/200068-iz-100-chelovek-ostanutsja-troe-o-masshtabah-dobrovolcheskogo-dvizhenija-na-ukraine.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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    Post  franco Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:45 am

    crod wrote:Absolutely NO idea regarding accuracy etc but several internet news sites are reporting counterattack success for uki forces North and South along with possibly 3 Russian arms depots targeted and destroyed in the south. Live map is showing these also.

    Any conformation on what’s happening? Or more accurate maps.

    Read article: https://topwar-ru.translate.goog/200061-poddubnyj-predupredil-o-verojatnom-kontrnastuplenii-vsu-srazu-na-dvuh-napravlenijah.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
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    Post  LMFS Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:49 am

    Russian Ministry of Defense
    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine ⚡ ️ (09.08.2022)

    ◽Armed The Russian Federation continues its special military operation in Ukraine.

    💥 As a result of strikes by high-precision long-range air-launched missiles in the area of the settlementVoronovitsa In the Vinnytsia region, the current buried command post of the Ukrainian Air Forces was destroyed.

    💥High-precision long-range sea-based weapons hit a large ammunition depot in the area of the settlement Uman Cherkasy region. More than three hundred rockets for the HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems were destroyed, as well as a large amount of ammunition for American M777 howitzers.

    💥As a result of active offensive actions of Russian troops, the 2nd mechanized battalion of the 14th mechanized Brigade lost its combat capability. Having lost more than 340 people killed and wounded, the remaining personnel voluntarily left their positions.

    💥Strikes by operational-tactical and army aircraft, rocket troops and artillery against military facilities on the territory of Ukraine continue.
    During the day, two control points were hit in the areas of localitiesSeversk and Ocheretino Donetsk People's Republic, three ammunition depots near populated areasKrasnogorovka Donetsk People's Republic, Zhovtnevoye Mykolaiv region andOsokorovka Kherson region, as well as personnel and military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 123 districts.

    💥During the counter-battery fight, two artillery batteries were hit, including American M777A2 howitzers in the area of the settlement. Veseloe Of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    ◽In addition, two firing platoons of multiple launch rocket systems were suppressed in the area of the settlement.Lastochkino, as well as six artillery platoons of self-propelled and towed howitzers in the areas of settlementsRazdolovka, Orlovka, Georgievka Of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    💥Russian air defense forces shot down one MiG-29 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force in the area of the settlement during the dayToretskoe Of the Donetsk People's Republic. 17 HIMARS multiple rocket launcher shells were intercepted in the areas of Kherson, Nova Kakhovka, Kherson region, and Melitopol Zaporozhye region. Three Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were also shot down in the area of the settlement.Petrovskoe, railway stationRutchenkovo Of the Donetsk People's Republic, andMospanovo Kharkiv region.

    In total, 264 aircraft, 145 helicopters, 1,711 unmanned aerial vehicles, 363 anti-aircraft missile systems, 4,278 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 794 multiple launch rocket systems, 3,284 field artillery and mortar guns, and 4,785 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed since the beginning of the special military operation.

    >> A buried command post destroyed, maybe there is truth to those claims about the Kinzhal being used these days after all...

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:52 am

    Werewolf wrote:So, Ukrainian jets are completely denied to fly in Ukraine by Russian Airforce and PVO, but now they have HARM and maybe, big maybe, have fitted it on 2-4 jets and want to launch a mediocre missile with just max 150km range while S-400 can snipe it out of the sky before they can launch it?

    If they made some jet fighters able to launch this HARMs then they are basically sending them on a suicide mission just for a chance to hit something for Twitter giggles?

    I assume after calling HARM "mediocre" our Seig will come and run his mouth again. Laughing Laughing

    To get a range you mention, it needs to be released from about 15 000 m.
    Good luck climbing there having S-400 head-on:lol: Laughing

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    Post  franco Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:52 am

    crod wrote:Why are they needing to create such units though? Surely there are enough reserves of well trained soldiers to relieve the different fighting units etc? Would it not be better to send these better trained servicemen into battle? If Russia only deployed 80k as stated here, that leaves 100ks of regular forces to rotate with, whom are much better equipped to fight in a real war due to do their years of training etc. Is it not risky sending in barely trained units or what am I missing here folks?

    1 - have not called up reserves.
    2 - these volunteers all have military experience
    3 - are used to hold the line in many areas. Including the Belarus border this is about 2,400 kms.
    4 - guarding the rear and lines of supply
    5 - this military action has revealed a shortage in the organization of actual infantry foot soldiers. Needed to clear urban and forested areas.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:56 am

    Allied forces take control of Knauf plant in Soledar — Chechen leader

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    Allies in control in southern Soledar thumbsup


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    Post  franco Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:59 am

    Russian Defense Ministry: the number of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine has decreased by almost 550 people

    From July 8 to August 5, the number of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine decreased by 549 people, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said at a briefing.

    According to him, the number of foreigners taking part in the hostilities on the side of official Kyiv initially amounted to 2,741 people, and by August 5, only 2,192 people.

    At the same time, foreign military specialists continue to arrive on the territory of Ukraine, however, according to a representative of the Russian military department, their number does not cover the losses. Over the past weeks, another 175 "soldiers of fortune" have arrived, including 81 militants from Georgia, Konashenkov added.

    He noted that during the specified period, 335 mercenaries from abroad were liquidated , another 389 left Ukraine without permission. In terms of the rate of loss of mercenaries, Poland is in the lead. Destroyed 99, left 146 militants. In addition, over the past four weeks, 36 mercenaries from Canada, 33 from Romania, 21 from the United States have been destroyed. Data on changes in the number of foreign military in Ukraine are published on the resources of the Russian military department.

    FULL ARTICLE: https://tvzvezda-ru.translate.goog/news/202289136-HPj6g.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_pto=nui

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    Post  crod Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:08 am

    franco wrote:
    crod wrote:Why are they needing to create such units though? Surely there are enough reserves of well trained soldiers to relieve the different fighting units etc? Would it not be better to send these better trained servicemen into battle? If Russia only deployed 80k as stated here, that leaves 100ks of regular forces to rotate with, whom are much better equipped to fight in a real war due to do their years of training etc. Is it not risky sending in barely trained units or what am I missing here folks?

    1 - have not called up reserves.
    2 - these volunteers all have military experience
    3 - are used to hold the line in many areas. Including the Belarus border this is about 2,400 kms.
    4 - guarding the rear and lines of supply
    5 - this military action has revealed a shortage in the organization of actual infantry foot soldiers. Needed to clear urban and forested areas.

    Ah! I knew I was missing something. Ty.

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    Post  owais.usmani Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:03 am

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    Post  franco Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:22 am

    Updated break down of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine by country:

    https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1556948927567503361

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    Post  Belisarius Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:24 am

    Video of the destruction of the American howitzer M777.
    https://t.me/intelslava/35133

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    Post  caveat emptor Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:19 am

    Military airport in Crimea was hit. Seven explosions. Probably missilies of some kind, as they were pretty big. It looks like airfield was not protected by AA. Not sure of they got ATACMS or Harpoon or their anti ship can be used for land attacks.
    It looks like 7 explosions occured
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    Post  Serberus Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:27 am

    caveat emptor wrote:Military airport in Crimea was hit. Seven explosions. Probably missilies of some kind, as they were pretty big. It looks like airfield was not protected by AA. Not sure of they got ATACMS or Harpoon or their anti ship can be used for land attacks.
    It looks like 7 explosions occured

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    Post  Arrow Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:27 am

    https://t.me/breakingmash/37260

    Apparently an airbase in the Crimea.
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    Post  caveat emptor Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:34 am

    There's a distant possibility it was a sabotage, but htf you pull out a sabotage of this size in the middle of Crimea during the war? Last reports say 9 explosions.
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    Post  Regular Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:37 am

    Very interesting what system was used? Locals filmed some of the explosions and they are massive.

    caveat emptor wrote:There's a distant possibility it was a sabotage, but htf you pull out a sabotage of this size in the middle of Crimea during the war? Last reports say 9 explosions.

    Impossible to pull a sabotage for such VIP place. UA has no means to do much even in less depth.
    We will find out soon during the briefing


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    Post  Dforce Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:38 am

    Arrow wrote:https://t.me/breakingmash/37260

    Apparently an airbase in the Crimea.

    Those evil Ukrups, shooting on their own country! attack

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    Post  owais.usmani Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:44 am

    Dforce wrote:
    Arrow wrote:https://t.me/breakingmash/37260

    Apparently an airbase in the Crimea.

    Those evil Ukrups, shooting on their own country! attack

    Those idiot Russians, allowing Ukro Nazis to shoot and not incinerating them all already. angry
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    Post  Serberus Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:46 am

    Regular wrote:

    Impossible to pull a sabotage for such VIP place. UA has no means to do much even in less depth.
    We will find out soon during the briefing

    A few sources on TG reporting sabotage but its too early to tell, there were definitely multiple explosions from the vids I have seen , but could be secondaries going off rather than missile hits.
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    Post  ALAMO Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:53 am

    Margarita Simonyan reported a sabotage.
    Crimea is among the heaviest defended areas in Russia. I would put a possibility of multiple penetration close to zero.

    Edit : stored ammo detonation at Saki airbase near Novofedorovka. No casualties, no destruction of equipment. Su-24M and Su-30 are stationing there.

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    Post  Dforce Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:57 am

    ALAMO wrote:Margarita Simonyan reported a sabotage.
    Crimea is among the heaviest defended areas in Russia. I would put a possibility of multiple penetration close to zero.

    Yeah, local partisans fed up with the occupation sounds much more plausible. Or SF roaming free with the help of locals is also possible.

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    Post  Werewolf Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:00 am

    owais.usmani wrote:

    It's a Propaganda show it doesn't matter what anyone says there. Zhirinovsky said things half the country was stounding that someone had the balls to say it, besides, if you really gonna put some missile on a NATO country you will not announce it and certainly not from a nobody like that guy.

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