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    Post  Backman Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:44 am

    Belgrod being hit now.

    People are speculating that Ukrainians are using American HIMARS to hit Belgorod. The explosions look quite a bit different than the usual Ukrop weapons. Only 1 missile got through so far. They’re still firing.

    https://t.me/asbmil/2544

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:09 am

    So far, two wounded and nobody died. They were trying to hit Kursk and Melitopol, as well.
    If Russia doesn't hit HQ or government buildings in Kiev, this will continue. They need to make an example. This thing with "hitting centers of decision making" already became a joke among Russians on telegram.


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    Post  Backman Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:11 am

    Entire Ukrop missile salvo just intercepted over Kursk by russian air defenses

    Russian Air Defence systems active over Kursk, Russia


    Ukrops are hitting civilian areas of melitopol (not in Russia)

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:12 am

    Serberus wrote:
    I think this is the one
    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/13330

    This video is obvious example of retarded behavior of many Ukrainian soldiers. They will have to just be erased, unfortunately. They were in a hopeless situation and still didn't try to surender.


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    Post  kvs Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:12 am

    Kissinger's statements on Ukraine are important for what NATzO will do going forward. The US cannot accept any
    dismemberment of Ukria. This is not a joke and the behaviour of Elensky and his regime confirms the message being
    sent. So in the near future NATzO will have to engage in a direct confrontation with Russia. The Kiev regime is
    failing and the sanctions have failed. There is no other option if they are to keep the NATzO Ukria project alive.

    So the weapons being sent and the spacial forces operating in Ukria are not the last story from NATzO.

    I expect events to move fast and we should have a crisis by fall. The Donbass fortified districts are not typical
    of all of Ukraine. They are using the local urban and industrial density. The center and west of Ukraine is rural
    and mostly empty. Russia will roll west super fast after the Donbass bastions of the regime fall. So NATzO will
    need to step in.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:18 am

    kvs wrote:Kissinger's statements on Ukraine are important for what NATzO will do going forward.   The US cannot accept any
    dismemberment of Ukria.   This is not a joke and the behaviour of Elensky and his regime confirms the message being
    sent.   So in the near future NATzO will have to engage in a direct confrontation with Russia.   The Kiev regime is
    failing and the sanctions have failed.   There is no other option if they are to keep the NATzO Ukria project alive.  

    So the weapons being sent and the spacial forces operating in Ukria are not the last story from NATzO.

    I expect events to move fast and we should have a crisis by fall.   The Donbass fortified districts are not typical
    of all of Ukraine.   They are using the local urban and industrial density.   The center and west of Ukraine is rural
    and mostly empty.   Russia will roll west super fast after the Donbass bastions of the regime fall.   So NATzO will
    need to step in.

     

    My guess is that NATO will get involved either this fall as its election season and Biden will want to get a rally round the flag thing going on to get votes for Congressional Democrats or maybe -and more likely- sometime in 2023 or 2024 because in our insane electoral politics neither party wants to look "soft on defense."

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:20 am

    kvs wrote:Kissinger's statements on Ukraine are important for what NATzO will do going forward.   The US cannot accept any
    dismemberment of Ukria.   This is not a joke and the behaviour of Elensky and his regime confirms the message being
    sent.   So in the near future NATzO will have to engage in a direct confrontation with Russia.   The Kiev regime is
    failing and the sanctions have failed.   There is no other option if they are to keep the NATzO Ukria project alive.  

    So the weapons being sent and the spacial forces operating in Ukria are not the last story from NATzO.

    I expect events to move fast and we should have a crisis by fall.   The Donbass fortified districts are not typical
    of all of Ukraine.   They are using the local urban and industrial density.   The center and west of Ukraine is rural
    and mostly empty.   Russia will roll west super fast after the Donbass bastions of the regime fall.   So NATzO will
    need to step in.

     

    No, NATO wont get involved directly.  They got what they wanted out of Ukraine.  The rest they will use as a method to control their own people in their respective nations.  They dont care about Ukraine because if they did, they would have gone in already.  At this point, it is too late for NATO to get involved directly.

    But of course they will give the A-OK for Ukraine to strike at Russia proper with any weapon they give them.

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    Post  LMFS Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:22 am

    caveat emptor wrote:So far, two wounded and nobody died. They were trying to hit Kursk and Melitopol, as well.
    If Russia doesn't hit HQ or government buildings in Kiev, this will continue. They need to make an example. This thing with "hitting centers of decision making" already became a joke among Russians on telegram.

    If no serious consequences arise from those attacks, I think it is better for Russia not to give more PR ammo to the West. They are mad to escalate to get justification for further destruction of the world's economy and governance in their countries. Permanently thinking of oneself that we are smarter than professionals is outright silly. Simply let the operation follow its course

    As to the NATzO involvement in 404, they clearly have a preferred strategy which is, as per the Anglo manual from the last centuries, to find some idiot that will fight their wars. Baltics and Poles are already foaming at the mouth to go to war with Russia and Finns, Romanians and Moldovans among others are being readied to be the next in the slaughter house. Even Norway poked the bear blocking transport to Russian settlements in Svalbard. Domestic resistance in the West needs to kick in somehow and pull the brakes on this madness, or we are in a serious risk of nuclear confrontation.


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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:23 am

    This might be HIMARS missile, as explosion looks different:

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:30 am

    Unfortunately, correspondent of Readovka says that everyone died when this house was hit. Not clear how many people.

    https://t.me/readovkanews/37960



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    Post  Regular Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:32 am

    Backman wrote:This is a pretty rough war scene but for me , zero sympathy.
    https://t.me/c/1698707268/265420

    I mean, I don't want to sound like sofa special forces, but if you can't move and fight, then maybe give up? Why do they move in an open field? It's suicide by Russian. Hohol, give up.

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:37 am

    LMFS wrote:

    If no serious consequences arise from those attacks, I think it is better for Russia not to give more PR ammo to the West. They are mad to escalate to get justification for further destruction of the world's economy and governance in their countries. Permanently thinking of oneself that we are smarter than professionals is outright silly. Simply let the operation follow its course.

    I would agree with you, if their ROE didn't change. This looks to me like a direct hit on the house, not like parts of the destroyed rocket fell on it. Before, Ukrainians were always hitting legitimate targets in Russia. This is a different situation and different response is needed.
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    Post  Regular Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:39 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    limb wrote:I really hope Aiden aislin and Sean pinner aren't executed. In interviews, they seemed to be genuinely remorseful, and willing to provide valuable information about western involvement in Ukrainian units. They could be mini Pauluses, denouncing western support of the Ukraine national ideology instead of martyrs.  It's actually a travesty that they're being executed while dozens of azov members are being exchanged.


    Bbb-ut no exceptions you'll say. Well isn't exchanging fucking azov members an exception?

    The thing is Aiden Aslin and Sean Pinner are worth nothing, probably they are better dead than alive

    At least with hohol nazis, the government can get Russian lives for them , which are the most precious and important thing

    But Sean Pinner and Aiden Aslin are worth  next to nothing- the west won't give anything for them, and Ukrainians  would not trade Russians for westerners


    And thats the point, if you fight for Ukraine,  you get nothing back for it as a westerner, you get hung by LDNR if captured, shot in the back if you run away, or shot before being captured


    It's funny how little value western lives are now


    I guess never leave a man behind is a Russian concept , not an American one


    Who would have thought

    Everyone keeps forgetting that Morrocan kid Very Happy

    They would walk free if UK would contact DNR authorities.

    Sean Penn is mercinary by his own definition and he was linked with Azov in the past. The other brit that I forgot his name has some crap on hin too.

    Aiden is cleanest of all the bunch, but then again he was with YPG in the past and they are not friends of Russian interest.

    And yes, they are insignificant, there is literally no point to executing them as well, there are way more vile bastards in captivity. The ball is in UKs court anyway and it seems they are the only ones that want to forget about their nationals being captured, not DNR.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:40 am

    I don't know what you guys expect, nothing russia can do to prevent attacks with Himmers it has the range, impossible to stop Ukraine from doing this and again this is a war, Ukraine has every right to attack their enemies home soil.

    All I am seeing is pointless complaining, Russia isn't some all knowing god.

    Short of destroying the Ukrainian military, there is not a thing they can do to stop attacks like these.

    Either end the war faster or accept this is going to happen

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:53 am

    Regular wrote:

    Everyone keeps forgetting that Morrocan kid Very Happy

    They would walk free if UK would contact DNR authorities.

    Sean Penn is mercinary by his own definition and he was linked with Azov in the past. The other brit that I forgot his name has some crap on hin too.

    Aiden is cleanest of all the bunch, but then again he was with YPG in the past and they are not friends of Russian interest.

    And yes, they are insignificant, there is literally no point to executing them as well, there are way more vile bastards in captivity. The ball is in UKs court anyway and it seems they are the only ones that want to forget about their nationals being captured, not DNR.
    Personally, i wouldn't take nationalists as prisoners, at all. I don't think Serbian army took any UCK prisoners in '99.
    Probably, same for foreigners. This is not their war. I'm sure Ukrainians will do same if they catch some of the Serbs that fight for DNR.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:00 am

    https://t.me/swodki/126804

    Here so that people stop feeling sorry for those two hohols

    Our man is taunted and tortured by the VSU

    this is why it's necessary to trade

    Ukrops won't give up ours for pinner or asslin

    So **** em

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:08 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/swodki/126804

    Here so that people stop feeling sorry for those two hohols

    Our man is taunted and tortured by the VSU

    this is why it's necessary to trade

    Ukrops won't give up ours for pinner or asslin

    So **** em
    Don't be so sure. By offering Aislin, for example, you're pressuring Ukrainians to act. It wouldn't look good on UK gov in home front, if Ukrainians didn't accept exchange.

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    Post  Regular Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:09 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/swodki/126804

    Here so that people stop feeling sorry for those two hohols

    Our man is taunted and tortured by the VSU

    this is why it's necessary to trade


    Yeah, makes sense now. But Ukrainians are idiots, don't they understand that by filming this shit they just make things worse for themselves?

    Let them film and document it all.

    Now about those two/three hohol soldiers who got shot. They weren't tortured, they weren't in captivity.  One of them was returning fire. It's no one else fault they moved in the middle of the field and got shot. What do UA surviving POWs do in such situations? Take off helmets and uniforms, disarm themselves and give up to the drone and they make sure they are visible that they are giving up. As I've said, suicide by Russian.


    caveat emptor wrote:
    Don't be so sure. By offering Aislin, for example, you're pressuring Ukrainians to act. It wouldn't look good on UK gov in home front, if Ukrainians didn't accept exchange.

    UA didn't accept to exchange Medvechuk, not DNR.
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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:17 am

    Regular wrote:

    UA didn't accept to exchange Medvechuk, not DNR.
    Medvedchuk is not British national, Aislin is. If DNR would, for example, publicly announce that they want to exchange Aislin for guy in the video, and UK doesn't pressure Ukrainians to do it, you can say goodbye to public support in UK for Ukrainian cause. UK media would make a field day out of it.

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    Post  Backman Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:25 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:I don't know what you guys expect, nothing russia can do to prevent attacks with Himmers it has the range, impossible to stop Ukraine from doing this and again this is a war, Ukraine has every right to attack their enemies home soil.

    All I am seeing is pointless complaining, Russia isn't some all knowing god.

    Short of destroying the Ukrainian military, there is not a thing they can do to stop attacks like these.

    Either end the war faster or accept this is going to happen

    Nonsense. Russia has refrained from hitting government decision making centers. It can do that if it wants. With a dead president and a seriously wounded vice president , power of the country could be transferred to a general , who will sue for peace. And then these attacks will stop.

    This US controlled regime is the problem. Ukrainians are like Germans in ww2. They carry out any order they are given. So take away the regime that's giving the orders. Try someone else

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:49 am

    Backman wrote:Belgrod being hit now.

    People are speculating that Ukrainians are using American HIMARS to hit Belgorod. The explosions look quite a bit different than the usual Ukrop weapons. Only 1 missile got through so far. They’re still firing.

    https://t.me/asbmil/2544

    No secondary explosions. Go back to sleep. Another failed Ukropi PR attack of no actual significance.

    If it is a HIMARS round then its another example for the Murkans can't exert any control over the antics of their feral attack dogs. Won't use them against Russian cities? Did anyone really believe this garbage?

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:55 am

    kvs wrote:Kissinger's statements on Ukraine are important for what NATzO will do going forward.   The US cannot accept any
    dismemberment of Ukria.   This is not a joke and the behaviour of Elensky and his regime confirms the message being
    sent.   So in the near future NATzO will have to engage in a direct confrontation with Russia.   The Kiev regime is
    failing and the sanctions have failed.   There is no other option if they are to keep the NATzO Ukria project alive.  

    So the weapons being sent and the spacial forces operating in Ukria are not the last story from NATzO.

    I expect events to move fast and we should have a crisis by fall.   The Donbass fortified districts are not typical
    of all of Ukraine.   They are using the local urban and industrial density.   The center and west of Ukraine is rural
    and mostly empty.   Russia will roll west super fast after the Donbass bastions of the regime fall.   So NATzO will
    need to step in.

     

    Fvck 'em.  Russia will wipe the frigging board clean of any expeditionary force that the NATOstani soft-cocks can muster.  Russia has fought this police action with barely 10% of their available forces, the rest has been held back in case NATO chooses to go full retard.  Little Stolty and his cross-dressers are welcome to come and find out how real armies conduct business... Twisted Evil

    Having said, that I don't think NATO will put their boots on. For all their arrogant BS and posturing, these Eurotrash faggots are terrified of what the Bear is capable of and they know that fighting Russia in a hot war is a sure fire way to reconcile their struggling mini-me hegemony into the garbage bin of history.


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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:55 am

    limb wrote:...Bbb-ut no exceptions you'll say. Well isn't exchanging fucking azov members an exception?

    It is an exception which is why Russia shit the bed with this Azov release bullshit

    And it's definitely release, they could have picked any other rando for exchange but they specifically chose bunch of war criminals who will now become symbols of continuing struggle against Russian subhumans

    Morons every last one of them



    And again, how the f*ck did Ukrainian apes manage to acquire so many Russian POWs?

    What the f*ck kind of professional army is that supposed to be?





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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:11 am

    Backman wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:I don't know what you guys expect, nothing russia can do to prevent attacks with Himmers it has the range, impossible to stop Ukraine from doing this and again this is a war, Ukraine has every right to attack their enemies home soil.

    All I am seeing is pointless complaining, Russia isn't some all knowing god.

    Short of destroying the Ukrainian military, there is not a thing they can do to stop attacks like these.

    Either end the war faster or accept this is going to happen

    Nonsense. Russia has refrained from hitting government decision making centers. It can do that if it wants. With a dead president and a seriously wounded vice president , power of the country could be transferred to a general , who will sue for peace. And then these attacks will stop.

    This US controlled regime is the problem. Ukrainians are like Germans in ww2. They carry out any order they are given. So take away the regime that's giving the orders. Try someone else

    You are devoid of logic if you think Russia can kill Zelen by bombing, He will be in a fairly well protected place.

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:14 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Backman wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:I don't know what you guys expect, nothing russia can do to prevent attacks with Himmers it has the range, impossible to stop Ukraine from doing this and again this is a war, Ukraine has every right to attack their enemies home soil.

    All I am seeing is pointless complaining, Russia isn't some all knowing god.

    Short of destroying the Ukrainian military, there is not a thing they can do to stop attacks like these.

    Either end the war faster or accept this is going to happen

    Nonsense. Russia has refrained from hitting government decision making centers. It can do that if it wants. With a dead president and a seriously wounded vice president , power of the country could be transferred to a general , who will sue for peace. And then these attacks will stop.

    This US controlled regime is the problem. Ukrainians are like Germans in ww2. They carry out any order they are given. So take away the regime that's giving the orders. Try someone else

    You are devoid of logic if you think Russia can kill Zelen by bombing, He will be in a fairly well protected place.


    If he is even in Ukraine.

    PapaDragon wrote:

    And again, how the f*ck did Ukrainian apes manage to acquire so many Russian POWs?

    What the f*ck kind of professional army is that supposed to be?


    Most of them are from earlier parts of the conflict, with the dash towards Kiev and lost a few heli's and planes.  Mixed in with a lot of LDNR forces as well.

    caveat emptor wrote:Unfortunately, correspondent of Readovka says that everyone died when this house was hit. Not clear how many people.

    https://t.me/readovkanews/37960


    Some are saying 3 civilians confirmed killed in the strike on Belgorod.

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    Backman wrote:Belgrod being hit now.

    People are speculating that Ukrainians are using American HIMARS to hit Belgorod. The explosions look quite a bit different than the usual Ukrop weapons. Only 1 missile got through so far. They’re still firing.

    https://t.me/asbmil/2544

    No secondary explosions.  Go back to sleep.  Another failed Ukropi PR attack of no actual significance.

    If it is a HIMARS round then its another example for the Murkans can't exert any control over the antics of their feral attack dogs. Won't use them against Russian cities?  Did anyone really believe this garbage?

    Most of them were intercepted, 1 got through it seems. In Kursk, all were intercepted. Melitopol got it worst as I doubt there is much for AD there.

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