Russian special military operation in Ukraine #19

The "consensus" on the Seversky Donets River crossing "defeat" is BS. The only photos of the scene are full of explicitly Ukr equipment.
Nobody has established the sequence of events and at best the same part was used by both Russian and Ukrainian forces with Russia
apparently losing equipment and likely men from shelling. The smug attribution of all the losses to Russia is simply inane.

But it appears that there is a social media information war induced herd of lemmings running around screeching about Russian failure.
This war is succeeding to some extent. Getting lemmings to run in the direction you want is the objective. But it will not change the
course of the campaign. It is rather and interesting contradiction to the usual NATzO narrative on Russia being a dictatorship. There
would be no point agitating the population with defeatist propaganda if you did not expect them to exert any pressure on the leadership.
A corollary of this is that governments need to have a strong spine in times of crisis since the enemy will be using lemmings to engage
in 5th column sabotage.

PapaDragon wrote:
Had a talk with a guy who is captain in Serbian Army and he says that everyone he knows is flabbergasted both professionally and personally at that Russian river crossing fiasco (among other things, recent Nazi POW liberation fuckup included)

In general Russia is still pretty popular here but right now they are running on last can of nostalgia (good will was torched during the 90's)

While I'm perfectly aware that zero people give a shit about what we here think you need to keep in mind that if we who have very high tolerance for this loser BS are fed up with it you can bet the house that everyone else is most definitely fed up with it

And China has a proven track record of picking winners over losers

If Russia chooses to do a Milosevic and lose this little project with their humanitarian PR bullshit they will be losing a lot more than just a war (and no amount of nukes will save them just like they didn't save USSR)

Just putting it out there

Getting rid of that cringe-inducing inferiority complex would do wonders to some Slavic people...

The American right, is gaining steam

Manchurian candidate is still very much alive

Americans don’t want Biden to run again – poll

Latest poll shows 71% of respondents opposed to the idea of President Joe Biden’s second term

Now I ain't no metallurgist, but it probably doesn't help that this thing is towed from the gun tube - something no other towed gun does!

Arkanghelsk wrote:

The American right, is gaining steam

Manchurian candidate is still very much alive

Americans don’t want Biden to run again – poll

Latest poll shows 71% of respondents opposed to the idea of President Joe Biden’s second term

Isolationists are few and far between in US right, same as in US political establishment. Don't keep your hopes up.

lyle6 wrote:
Now I ain't no metallurgist, but it probably doesn't help that this thing is towed from the gun tube - something no other towed gun does!

They wanted light gun, at any cost, and traded robustness for it. It works for US, as it mostly relies on air power for fire support. Ukraine doesn't have that luxury.

caveat emptor wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:

The American right, is gaining steam

Manchurian candidate is still very much alive

Americans don’t want Biden to run again – poll

Latest poll shows 71% of respondents opposed to the idea of President Joe Biden’s second term

Isolationists are few and far between in US right, same as in US political establishment. Don't keep your hopes up.

Actually the new establishment of American politics

Are the far right and they are the ideological base of the new republican party,

In fact a candidate cannot win a primary election without blessing of the orange man himself

Actually the bipartisan effort of the pro globalist wing is exhausted already under the full weight of the Red wave

They hold such powerful positions in Supreme Court, and soon to be house and senate

Remember the Maria Butina story ? With the NRA?

The DNC controls CIA, Pentagon, and the intelligentsia of the state, but the republican party commands the cultural heartland of America

It is that sentiment SVR has been carefully nurturing

Yes Mossad has had its grip on evangelical base for a long time, and CPC has nurtured the left wing of the US for a while via tik tok, NBA, media holdings, and donations to the biden administration and family not to mention strong ties to US oligarchs Bezos and Walton

But the SVR still got those meetings between kislyak and Trump as well as lavrov and the commander in chief, while Orange had a full blown trade war declared on China

Which led to the Helsinki forum between Putin and Trump

To the chagrin of CIA and the Pentagon

Actually the foreign ministry of Russia had more meetings with Trump himself then Netanyahu did

So even though DNC is regarded as a boy who cries wolf

SVR was going over the heads of state department and the old establishment making meetings with the white house to discuss the global affairs

I am curious now on the January 6 hearings in the US

Skabayeva and Popov have not yet begun to cover it, but despite the full blown rupture in relations due to panic of the DNC

The only way to conduct dialogue with the US is via direct meetings with Trump, as he begins his retaking of the white house

Ukraine will not be settled until then, contingencies exist, but currently the Patriotic bloc of Russia understands that the victory of Trump already changes the chess board considerably

You're reading too much into it. Trump doesn't have such power over Republicans as you claim. Second thing is that one man can't change US foreign policy nearly enough in such short time. We are talking about 70 years now. MIC lobby is very powerful in both parties. It employs a lot of people all over the US and those representatives are susceptible to pressure. Republican party representatives will back Trump if they think they need his endorsement to win the seat. As soon as Trump is seen as not needed, he will be kicked back to the dustbin of history. By the same people he endorsed.

The US is making claims that China is helping Russia in the war again. This is more propaganda for internal consumption. They want the people to believe that Russia only won because China backed them up. It diminishes Russia's power and ties the atrocity propaganda to China too.

As if China has anything to assist Russia in behind the scenes with its zero war experience.
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The head of the American intelligence: China supports the special operation and helps Russia in its conduct in Ukraine

Chinese authorities are providing Russia with "behind-the-scenes assistance in various ways" against the backdrop of a special operation in Ukraine, said Avril Haynes, director of national intelligence of the United States.

caveat emptor wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:

The American right, is gaining steam

Manchurian candidate is still very much alive

Americans don’t want Biden to run again – poll

Latest poll shows 71% of respondents opposed to the idea of President Joe Biden’s second term

Isolationists are few and far between in US right, same as in US political establishment. Don't keep your hopes up.

It is not an isolationist angle. They are happy to fight with China. But they don't believe Orthodox Russia should be an enemy that we go to war with.

PapaDragon wrote:
Interview with captured Azov member
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You are romancing a brainwashed retard who will die to spread gay pride parades for the US empire

lyle6 wrote:

Now I ain't no metallurgist, but it probably doesn't help that this thing is towed from the gun tube - something no other towed gun does!

The rinky-dink wheels tell you all you need to know. It is a low mass job and thus cannot be robust. Using different materials
does not remove this price. The M777 is all hype and in no way superior to the Soviet models it replaces. Talk of long-range
high-precision munitions is changing the subject.

I wonder what the barrel lifespan of this US wonder is. More than likely much less than the "inferior" Soviet guns.

lyle6 wrote:
Now I ain't no metallurgist, but it probably doesn't help that this thing is towed from the gun tube - something no other towed gun does!

The best howitzers ever is...



But yes so many Western weapon systems are completely over-hyped - and it is clearly showing in this conflict.

Mir wrote:
The best howitzers ever is...



But yes so many Western weapon systems are completely over-hyped - and it is clearly showing in this conflict.

You got me there, but the tube is fixed to the trailing legs so its a lot sturdier than it looks. The M777 gun is free to flap about during travel.

Werewolf wrote:

Isos wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Interview with captured Azov member

https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/07/01/interview-with-a-stormtrooper/


I do love the cocky no-fucks-given attitude, he knows he is untouchable

This guy has some balls on him and knows he will be allowed to keep them (unlike some poor shmucks who will spend rest of their lives as living jokes and will go unavenged)


Looking forward to seeing this guy getting released and walking away scott free just like his Nazi-bros yesterday

Best way to fight Nazism is to make sure that maximum possible amount of Nazis walks free, right? Good old Soviet WW2 approach  

Those balls will push him to go back on the front and get captured again.

Win win for russians that get back their soldiers.

He was part of Azov from 2014.

Hell Germany has two years ago charged some 94 year old gardener who worked for some SS Officer as a FUCKING GARDENER.

This mofo is part of Azov. Doesn't matter if he did something or not.

Part of Azov = firing squad, period. And someone should do some Hugo Stiglitz on his balls and let's see how cocky he will be.

Yeah and they will just keep killing all the russians their captured too including valuable sukhoi pilots that takes years to be trained and on which you spend millions of dollars just in kerosene to let them fly.


And just imagine the moral of the troops on the front that know their leaders won't exchange them and will end up shot if captured.

Bloomberg: The head of Hungary changed the tone on the issue of Ukraine and anti-Russian sanctions

According to the US news agency Bloomberg, the head of the Hungarian government, Viktor Orban, spoke less harshly than usual yesterday on anti-Russian sanctions against the EU and Ukraine.

Orban said that Hungary would no longer oppose the anti-Russian measures of Brussels, unless, of course, these measures affect the energy sector. In addition, the Hungarian prime minister said that his country would support Ukraine as a “defensive” side.

Bloomberg notes that Hungary, on the one hand, decided to bring its position on Ukraine closer to EU policy , but at the same time continues to cooperate with Russia in the field of energy. Orban does not want to refuse Russian help to expand the Paks nuclear power plant.

This position of Hungary is rather strange. Orban says his country should "go with the flow" with the EU, but not on gas embargo issues.

The Hungarian government will also, according to Orban, be more resolute in supporting Kyiv, since Russia launched its special operation “for no reason” and Ukraine is on the “defensive” side.

As Bloomberg notes, Hungary under Orban is one of the most “loyal” EU countries in relation to Moscow. The Hungarian prime minister has previously repeatedly clashed with Ukrainian President Zelensky. He also managed to achieve an easing of European anti-Russian sanctions, the agency states.

Despite significant pressure from Brussels, the Hungarian government has not yet refused to cooperate with Rosatom in the construction of power units at the Paks nuclear power plant, which is due to begin in September. Now, however, Orban seems to have decided to change his rhetoric. How serious this is, only time will tell.

Hungary's ambiguous position was also confirmed by Orban's statement today, in which he said that his country does not intend to discuss proposals to limit Russian gas supplies to Hungary.

Viktor Orban has been head of the Hungarian government since May 2010. Recently, he was re-elected both to the post of president and to the post of head of the Cabinet.

https://politobzor-net.translate.goog/251486-bloomberg-glava-vengrii-smenil-ton-po-voprosu-ukrainy-i-antirossijskih-sankcij.html?utm_source=topwar.ru&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine (July 2, 2022)

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

The enemy suffers considerable losses on all fronts.

3 battalions from 10th Mountain Assault and 72nd Mechanised brigades have lost over 50% of personnel near Verkhnekamenka and Zolotaryovka just in the past 24 hours.

Russian Aerospace Forces have launched a high-precision attack at provisional base of 1st Battalion from 30th Mechanised Brigade deployed near Artyomovsk. The attack has resulted in the elimination of up to 120 Ukrainian servicemen and about 15 units of military equipment.

In addition, Russian aviation has neutralised a provisional armament and military equipment storage base of 10th Mountain Assault Brigade deployed at the territory of a tractor plant in Kharkov. The attack has resulted in the elimination of up to 30 servicemen and 10 units of armoured and motor vehicles.

Russian Federation Armed Forces continue launching attacks at military facilities located in Ukraine.

High-precision attacks launched by Russian Aerospace Forces have resulted in the elimination of 5 command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) near Artyomovsk and Chasov Yar (Donetsk People's Republic), Pervomayskoye, Zelyony Gay and Barmashovo (Nikolayev region), 3 munitions depots near Shevchenkovo and Novogrigorovka (Zaporozhye region), as well as AFU manpower and military equipment in 32 areas.

Within the counter-battery warfare, high-precision attacks launched by Russian Aerospace Forces have resulted in the neutralisation of 4 MRLS plattoons near Novoluganskoye, Zhelannoye, Berdychi and Vozdvizhenka from where the AFU had been shelling the settlements of the Donetsk People's Republic.

Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery have neutralised: 39 AFU command posts, 2 munitions depots near Nikolayev, as well as manpower and military equipment in 302 areas.

Russian air defence means have shot down 1 MiG-29 of the Ukrainian Air Force near Yavkino (Nikolayev region).

19 Ukrainian UAVs have been shot down near Voskresenovka, Glinskoye, Pitomnik, Zhovtnevoye, Rubezhnoye, Petrovka (Kharkov region), Rabotino, Novodanilovka (Zaporozhye region), Petrovskoye, Popasnaya, Kremennaya (Lugansk People's Republic), Snezhnoye, Vysokoye, Yasinovataya, Donetsk, Makeyevka, Dokuchayevsk, Komsomolskoye (Donetsk People's Republic).

4 MRLS projectiles have been intercepted near Yasinovataya, Mineralnoye (Donetsk People's Republic) and Chernobayevka (Kherson region).

In total, 227 airplanes and 134 helicopters, 1,430 unmanned aerial vehicles, 353 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3,886 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 702 combat vehicles equipped with multiple rocket-launching systems, 3,073 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 3,954 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine
@mod_russia_en

https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2549

Russia could transfer all products from Ukrainian producers , agricultural or industrial and sell them on their behalf in return for Roubles or bartered trade of civilian goods . Barter trade is better , since there is not even the remote possibility of exchanging for military hardware with any nation . Bulky goods , like agricultural produce can be high volume by Sea , compared to Road or Rail . If Ukraine stops own farmers from export and earning a living , then it is not Russia's fault . Let farmers know , which port to bring the goods .

Russia still needs to stage regime change in Kiev. Shearing off some land from the current freak show will not change the threat
since NATzO will go back to preparing more biowarfare labs and even nuclear weapons program. The loss of the Zaporozhye
nuclear power plant is not a show stopper since there are other nuclear power plants in the far west of the country.

caveat emptor wrote:You're reading too much into it. Trump doesn't have such power over Republicans as you claim. Second thing is that one man can't change US foreign policy nearly enough in such short time. We are talking about 70 years now. MIC lobby is very powerful in both parties. It employs a lot of people all over the US and those representatives are susceptible to pressure. Republican party representatives will back Trump if they think they need his endorsement to win the seat. As soon as Trump is seen as not needed, he will be kicked back to the dustbin of history. By the same people he endorsed.

Update your knowledge

Today Trump and his base are the only force in republican politics

The voters exclusively selected MAGA cadres to fill out seats in the American Congress

From Dr. OZ, Mary Miller , Marjorie Greene Taylor- georgia, Lauren Boebert- CO , Darren Bailey - Chicago, Mayra Flores - Texas

Actually every single victory in US house was a Trump backed candidate

They have sweeped the entire congress

These people are not amenable to bipartisan politics, nor do they believe in traditional neoconservative centrist beliefs

They are hard-core isolationists, and Trump supporters

In the primaries, the old guard was effectively knocked out

And Trump regained control over the party in spite of other establishment figures

In fact the Supreme Court judges are also his appointees, from Kavanaugh, Barret Cohen, gorsuch,

The ideological apparatchiks of the party are all MAGA isolationists and like Trump are open to meetings with Russian elite at the highest level

They do not believe in the NATO structure, because they do not fit into the global political hierarchy

It is these people that will cause major trouble for Washington - and this same process is taking place on the left- there is a reason the appointees are ideological cutouts of the "squad"

US politics has already transitioned , its just the old establishment fights hard for its own positions

But as Putin stated at SPIEF, those people are in the midst of an elite change

There are reports from the Kharkov region that Russian troops are moving to the northern outskirts of Kharkov. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine say that the fighting is taking place along the Belgorod-Kharkov road in the area where the villages of Kochubeevka and Dementievka are located. From there to the Kharkov ring road no more than 13-14 km. At the same time, strikes are being made on the enemy garrison in the Chuguev area, and the RF Armed Forces are advancing east of Kharkov.

The analyst Dima was correct

The Kharkov operation is taking place before Odessa

It will be :

Belogorovka

Seversk

Slavyansk

Kramatorsk

Bakhmut

And then Kharkov