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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #17

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    Post  ALAMO Sun May 29, 2022 9:14 pm

    Just watched that.

    https://t.me/swodki/105590

    It is quite interesting if you will take a look at that all S-8 missiles.
    Those are brand new. Freshly painted etc.
    a/ they are out of stock of old ammo
    b/ the MIC is working as crazy to deliver these shining pieces
    Anyone can make their own ideas Laughing
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    Post  Tolstoy Sun May 29, 2022 10:19 pm

    There is already the 2S7 Pion and 2S4 Tyulpan that is doing a phenomenal job. They are backed up by 2S19 Msta.

    This is already a lot of formidable firepower. So why use the TOCHKA? What are the benefits of using the TOCHKA?
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    Post  Mir Sun May 29, 2022 11:04 pm

    Tolstoy wrote:There is already the 2S7 Pion and 2S4 Tyulpan that is doing a phenomenal job. They are backed up by 2S19 Msta.

    This is already a lot of formidable firepower.  So why use the TOCHKA? What are the benefits of using the TOCHKA?

    Russia is not exactly using the Tochka but rather the Iskander, but both these missile systems provide far greater range than any of the heavy artillery pieces you've mentioned.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sun May 29, 2022 11:18 pm

    TASS; Military operation in Ukraine
    May 29, 15:18

    Poland delivered 18 KRAB self-propelled howitzers to Ukraine

    We are talking about equipping three divisions


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    WARSAW, 29 May. /TASS/. The Ukrainian army received 18 modern KRAB self-propelled howitzers from Poland. This was reported on Sunday by Polish Radio, citing a source in the government. We are talking about equipping three divisions. The Polish army also trained a hundred Ukrainian artillerymen to serve howitzers. As Polish Radio emphasizes, thanks to the help of Warsaw, the Ukrainians now have at least 24 self-propelled guns.

    KRAB have been in service with the Polish army for the past few years. The caterpillar chassis is produced under a Korean license, and the 155 mm gun is a modification of British weapons. The maximum firing range is 40 km with basic ammunition. Within a minute, KRAB can fire six shots.

    Poland is the second largest supplier of weapons to Ukraine after the United States. Earlier, the republic transferred to the Ukrainian side about 250 Soviet T-72 tanks, 2S1 Go dzik self-propelled howitzers, as well as Piorun MANPADS systems, Grad launchers, air-to-air missiles for MiG-29 and Su-27 aircraft, Polish-made drones and a large number of ammunition.

    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/14763089

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun May 29, 2022 11:28 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:TASS; Military operation in Ukraine
    May 29, 15:18

    Poland delivered 18 KRAB self-propelled howitzers to Ukraine

    We are talking about equipping three divisions


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    WARSAW, 29 May. /TASS/. The Ukrainian army received 18 modern KRAB self-propelled howitzers from Poland. This was reported on Sunday by Polish Radio, citing a source in the government. We are talking about equipping three divisions. The Polish army also trained a hundred Ukrainian artillerymen to serve howitzers. As Polish Radio emphasizes, thanks to the help of Warsaw, the Ukrainians now have at least 24 self-propelled guns.

    KRAB have been in service with the Polish army for the past few years. The caterpillar chassis is produced under a Korean license, and the 155 mm gun is a modification of British weapons. The maximum firing range is 40 km with basic ammunition. Within a minute, KRAB can fire six shots.

    Poland is the second largest supplier of weapons to Ukraine after the United States. Earlier, the republic transferred to the Ukrainian side about 250 Soviet T-72 tanks, 2S1 Go dzik self-propelled howitzers, as well as Piorun MANPADS systems, Grad launchers, air-to-air missiles for MiG-29 and Su-27 aircraft, Polish-made drones and a large number of ammunition.

    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/14763089


    Wonder how those will look after they have been Kalibrated?

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    Post  Mir Sun May 29, 2022 11:33 pm

    We are talking about equipping three divisions.

    More like three batteries Laughing

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    Post  Kiko Mon May 30, 2022 12:06 am

    NATO cracks, Baltic states attack France, Germany over diplomatic approach with Putin

    “It is amazing how the leaders of France and Germany are inadvertently paving the way for new acts of violence from Russia," said an Estonian official.

    Internal divisions within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) are becoming increasingly evident, despite the military alliance's statement that it is "more united than ever" against the Russian special military operation in Ukraine. 

    On one side, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and French President Emmanuel Macron called Russian President Vladimir Putin in an attempt to find a solution to grain blocked in Ukrainian ports. 

    The phone call came two days after Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi also discussed the issue with Putin in an attempt to ease a global food crisis.

    However, the diplomatic approach is rejected in the Baltic countries, which have taken a radically anti-Russian stance since the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine.

    "It is amazing how the leaders of France and Germany are inadvertently paving the way for new acts of violence from Russia... How is it possible that neither Paris nor Berlin have learned from history? Why is it assumed that Putin, currently waging war against a great European People, intends to fulfill any promise?"asked Marko Mihkelson, head of the Estonian parliament's Foreign Relations Committee, according to the Financial Times. 

    Yandex Translate from Portuguese.

    https://www.brasil247.com/mundo/otan-racha-e-paises-balticos-atacam-franca-e-alemanha-por-abordagem-diplomatica-com-putin

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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 30, 2022 12:15 am

    Really good riddance

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    ⚔⚔⚔New data on the destroyed base of the police special forces of Ukraine
    Ukrainian media report new data on the losses of the KORD police special forces as a result of a Russian missile attack on a base in the Zaporozhye region on May 22.
    In total, 25 commandos from Vinnitsa, Rovno and Cherkassy were killed, and another 75 were wounded


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    Ukrainian source reporting a not so auspicious start of the Kherson offensive.


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    During the last two days, the intensity increased again on the southern front where #Ukrainian troops managed to cross Inhulets river taking control over Davydiv Brid/Давидів Брід forcing #Russian troops to retreat towards southern areas at Bruskyns'ke/Брускинське

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon May 30, 2022 12:36 am

    RIA Novosti ; 05/29/2022 20:08 (updated: 05/29/2022 20:29)

    LNR forces entrenched on the outskirts of Severodonetsk
    The forces of the People's Militia of the LPR entrenched themselves on the outskirts of Severodonetsk in the Donbass


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    SEVERODONETSK (LPR), May 29 - RIA Novosti. The forces of the People's Militia of the LPR entrenched themselves on the outskirts of the city of Severodonetsk in the Donbass, a RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the scene.
    According to him, the Ukrainian security forces are hitting residential areas that they had previously left. On Friday, the People's Militia of the LPR, together with Russian fighters, blocked the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the city and cut off all their escape routes. As the representative of the defense department Andrey Marochko noted, one bridge from the city was destroyed, the second will not withstand military equipment, and the third is controlled by the forces of the LPR.

    https://ria.ru/20220529/lnr-1791598759.html

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    Post  Hole Mon May 30, 2022 1:10 am

    https://southfront.org/successful-attack-of-kyivs-forces-in-kherson-appears-to-be-total-disaster-photos/

    Title speaks for itself.

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    Post  Hole Mon May 30, 2022 1:11 am

    Kiko wrote:NATO cracks, Baltic states attack France, Germany over diplomatic approach with Putin

    “It is amazing how the leaders of France and Germany are inadvertently paving the way for new acts of violence from Russia," said an Estonian official.

    Internal divisions within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) are becoming increasingly evident, despite the military alliance's statement that it is "more united than ever" against the Russian special military operation in Ukraine. 

    On one side, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and French President Emmanuel Macron called Russian President Vladimir Putin in an attempt to find a solution to grain blocked in Ukrainian ports. 

    The phone call came two days after Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi also discussed the issue with Putin in an attempt to ease a global food crisis.

    However, the diplomatic approach is rejected in the Baltic countries, which have taken a radically anti-Russian stance since the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine.

    "It is amazing how the leaders of France and Germany are inadvertently paving the way for new acts of violence from Russia... How is it possible that neither Paris nor Berlin have learned from history? Why is it assumed that Putin, currently waging war against a great European People, intends to fulfill any promise?"asked Marko Mihkelson, head of the Estonian parliament's Foreign Relations Committee, according to the Financial Times. 

    Yandex Translate from Portuguese.

    https://www.brasil247.com/mundo/otan-racha-e-paises-balticos-atacam-franca-e-alemanha-por-abordagem-diplomatica-com-putin

    Had France and Germany learned something from history they wouldn´t support a war against Russia.

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon May 30, 2022 1:19 am

    Hole wrote:https://southfront.org/successful-attack-of-kyivs-forces-in-kherson-appears-to-be-total-disaster-photos/

    Title speaks for itself.


    There's nothing in those photos


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    Post  Isos Mon May 30, 2022 1:49 am

    ALAMO wrote:Just watched that.

    https://t.me/swodki/105590

    It is quite interesting if you will take a look at that all S-8 missiles.
    Those are brand new. Freshly painted etc.
    a/ they are out of stock of old ammo
    b/ the MIC is working as crazy to deliver these shining pieces
    Anyone can make their own ideas Laughing

    They use huge amounts in exercices. They don't keep old stocks which is dangerous and could lead to loosing aircraft and helicopters.

    They just keep producing them.

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    Post  mnztr Mon May 30, 2022 1:52 am

    Kiko wrote:NATO cracks, Baltic states attack France, Germany over diplomatic approach with Putin

    “It is amazing how the leaders of France and Germany are inadvertently paving the way for new acts of violence from Russia," said an Estonian official.

    Internal divisions within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) are becoming increasingly evident, despite the military alliance's statement that it is "more united than ever" against the Russian special military operation in Ukraine. 

    On one side, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and French President Emmanuel Macron called Russian President Vladimir Putin in an attempt to find a solution to grain blocked in Ukrainian ports. 

    The phone call came two days after Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi also discussed the issue with Putin in an attempt to ease a global food crisis.

    However, the diplomatic approach is rejected in the Baltic countries, which have taken a radically anti-Russian stance since the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine.

    "It is amazing how the leaders of France and Germany are inadvertently paving the way for new acts of violence from Russia... How is it possible that neither Paris nor Berlin have learned from history? Why is it assumed that Putin, currently waging war against a great European People, intends to fulfill any promise?"asked Marko Mihkelson, head of the Estonian parliament's Foreign Relations Committee, according to the Financial Times. 

    Yandex Translate from Portuguese.

    https://www.brasil247.com/mundo/otan-racha-e-paises-balticos-atacam-franca-e-alemanha-por-abordagem-diplomatica-com-putin

    How come these little miniature doberman states are so keen to see larger states fight for their freedom? If you really cannot defend yourself, without huge sacrifices from other states, you should really STFU.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon May 30, 2022 1:52 am

    TASS;

    The official representative of the People's Militia of the LPR, Ivan Filiponenko, said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine occupied a residential area in Severodonetsk, from where they were firing.

    "At the moment, units of the People's Militia of the LPR, with fire support from the Russian Armed Forces, wedged into the enemy's defense line in the city of Severodonetsk, repulsed the enemy in front of Severodonetsk, directly occupied a bridgehead in the city, from where they continue to develop success," Filiponenko said.

    "Despite the fact that the enemy has gone into residential areas, firing points are being identified and hit, but the enemy is inflicting massive artillery strikes even on those quarters" that he probably knows that there are civilians there, he added.

    As Filiponenko noted, "enemy firing points are identified and eliminated."

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    Post  Giulio Mon May 30, 2022 2:32 am

    Arrow wrote:Another T-62M is on the way

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    Hello, but why the T-62s??

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon May 30, 2022 3:01 am

    TASS; Military operation in Ukraine
    May 29, 21:36

    Lavrov: the future of the territories of Ukraine, where the special military operation is carried out, will be decided by local residents

    The head of the Russian Foreign Ministry added that "the liberation of the DPR and LPR, recognized by the Russian Federation as independent states, is an absolute priority"

    MOSCOW, May 29. /TASS/. The future of the Ukrainian territories, where a special Russian military operation is being carried out, should be determined by their inhabitants. This was stated by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in an interview with the French TV channel TF1.

    "As for the rest of the territories where people live who do not want to break ties with Russia, the population of these regions will decide. I don’t think they will be happy to return to the power of the neo-Nazi regime, which has proved its complete Russophobic essence. The people themselves should decide," he said. he.

    Lavrov stressed that the liberation of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, recognized by the Russian Federation as independent states, "is an absolute priority." "In relation to other territories of Ukraine where a military operation is being carried out, the inhabitants of these areas should decide their future. They should decide for themselves in what environment they will continue to exist: in the environment created by President Vladimir Zelensky with a ban on Russian education, media, culture, the use of the Russian language in life or in another, where they will be able to raise their children the way they want, and not Zelensky and his team," he concluded.

    https://tass.ru/politika/14764493

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    Post  Hole Mon May 30, 2022 3:07 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Hole wrote:https://southfront.org/successful-attack-of-kyivs-forces-in-kherson-appears-to-be-total-disaster-photos/

    Title speaks for itself.


    There's nothing in those photos



    And no grand attack. Very Happy

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon May 30, 2022 3:09 am

    RIA Novosti; 05/29/2022 21:28 (updated: 05/29/2022 22:45)

    LPR forces occupied a bridgehead in Severodonetsk
    The people's militia of the LPR reported that its forces occupied a bridgehead in Severodonetsk


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    LUGANSK, May 29 - RIA Novosti. The forces of the LPR, with the support of the Russian Armed Forces, wedged into the line of defense of the Ukrainian troops in Severodonetsk and occupied a bridgehead in the city, said the official representative of the People's Militia of the Republic, Ivan Filiponenko, in a video published on the department's Telegram channel.
    "We repulsed the enemy in front of Severodonetsk, directly occupied a bridgehead in the city, from where they continue to develop success," he said.
    Filiponenko added that the Ukrainian security forces are hiding in residential buildings.

    "The enemy does not want to fight for settlements, prefers to go into residential areas, hide behind the backs of local residents," he said.
    According to a RIA Novosti correspondent, the nationalists are hitting residential areas that they had previously abandoned.
    On Friday, the People's Militia of the LPR, together with Russian fighters, blocked the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the city and cut off all their escape routes. As the representative of the defense department Andrey Marochko noted, one bridge from the city was destroyed, the second will not withstand military equipment, and the third is controlled by the forces of the LPR.

    https://ria.ru/20220529/lnr-1791610689.html



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    Post  psg Mon May 30, 2022 3:11 am

    Why not? They are just sitting there in storage, might as well use them. Now the smoothbore 115mm gun on the T 62m will fk up any ifv and apc, hell it will give most tanks serious trouble if hit by it. Also it can fire a gun launched missile.

    They have enough armour to protect it from artillery shell fragments, 30mm cannon, some light atw's. So they are still very useful, especially if utilised in the direct fire role with uav's to correct fire, to destroy bunkers, dugouts and buildings housing them nazi fks.

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    Post  Hole Mon May 30, 2022 3:13 am

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon May 30, 2022 3:32 am

    During the attack of the Ukrainian army in the direction of the place Davidov Brod, Kherson region, the bodies of 201 Ukrainian soldiers were found (until 15,00 or 3,00pm) + several dozen more dead bodies that cannot be identified. There are practically no losses among the Russian soldiers, because the Russians cut the column with the Ukroshitstan soldiers and broke everything.

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    Post  limb Mon May 30, 2022 3:43 am

    Hole wrote:https://southfront.org/successful-attack-of-kyivs-forces-in-kherson-appears-to-be-total-disaster-photos/

    Title speaks for itself.


    The first photo is of a destroyed BMP-3. Maybe it was a captured vehicle.

    BTW why has there been no advance from belogorovka to cut off severodonetsk if the russian bridgehead there was successful and they took few losses?
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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon May 30, 2022 3:53 am

    limb wrote:
    Hole wrote:https://southfront.org/successful-attack-of-kyivs-forces-in-kherson-appears-to-be-total-disaster-photos/

    Title speaks for itself.


    The first photo is of a destroyed BMP-3. Maybe it was a captured vehicle.

    BTW why has there been no advance from belogorovka to cut off severodonetsk if the russian bridgehead there was successful and they took few losses?

    Probably to make you doubt and write new conspiracy theories.
    What would you do, do you want the Russians to rush and die unnecessarily ?


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon May 30, 2022 4:09 am

    kiko wrote:

    "It is amazing how the leaders of France and Germany are inadvertently paving the way for new acts of violence from Russia... How is it possible that neither Paris nor Berlin have learned from history? Why is it assumed that Putin, currently waging war against a great European People, intends to fulfill any promise?"asked Marko Mihkelson, head of the Estonian parliament's Foreign Relations Committee, according to the Financial Times. 

    Those great European People are Estonians or Ukropistans?

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