Russian special military operation in Ukraine #17

Any proof of one cruise missile being shot down?

Stealthflanker wrote:

Hole wrote:Any proof of one cruise missile being shot down?

No real proof so far except apparent damage to nearby "Aurora" mall building.

Colonel Cassad tg account on Zaporozhie:
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/50516

On the strikes in Zaporozhye.  Information from the field.

 All 4 missiles were intended for the Motor Sich plant.
 One was shot down by air defense and coincidentally, it exploded over the Aurora shopping center.  There was no intention to go to the shopping center.  Indirectly, Aurora covered an elite high-rise building behind itself (made out of glass).

 Auxiliary shops were damaged at the Motor Sich plant, the blows apparently should have hinted transparently to Boguslaev that there was no need to make engines for Bayraktars.
 But he, in turn, was pressured from Kyiv
 The main workshops and production were not affected.

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Tony
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Russia is running out of tanks....and shows a pic from a transport of a T-62 headed for Syria in 2019

The picture was fake but the news ended up being true: https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1529479186720628736

Does anyone know why the heck T-62s are being sent to Ukraine?

zorobabel wrote:

JohninMK wrote:The level of desperation for PR hits rises again



Tony
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Russia is running out of tanks....and shows a pic from a transport of a T-62 headed for Syria in 2019

The picture was fake but the news ended up being true: https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1529479186720628736

Does anyone know why the heck T-62s are being sent to Ukraine?

There is no real good reason I can think of, Unless they are giving them to LNDR and DNPR forces?

TASS; Military operation in Ukraine
May 25, 17:46 (Updated 18:15)

Pushilin: more than half of the territory of Krasny Liman came under the control of the DPR

The head of the republic said that in this area the enemy uses a "favorite tactic" - the population as a human shield

MOSCOW, May 25. /TASS/. More than half of the territory of Krasny Liman came under the control of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR), and only a few days remained until the region was completely liberated from Ukrainian militants. This was stated on Wednesday by the head of the DPR, Denis Pushilin, on the air of the Rossiya-1 TV channel.
"At the moment, more than 50% of the settlement (Krasny Liman - TASS note) is under our control. Our units have already entered, are working directly and are carrying out a sweep within the city. Therefore, I think there are only a few days left when Krasny Liman can be considered liberated locality," he said.

Pushilin added that in this area the enemy is using "a favorite tactic" - using the population as a human shield.
On May 23, First Deputy Head of the DPR Ministry of Information Daniil Bezsonov announced that active offensive operations against the Armed Forces of Ukraine had resumed in the area of ​​Avdiivka, Novoselovka Vtoroy and Krasny Liman. On May 24, Basurin stated that the DPR forces were engaged in heavy fighting in the area of ​​Avdiivka, Gorlovka, Maryinka and Novomaryinka.

https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/14728449

And to add, the ruble today is 56.97 for one dollar ..

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zorobabel wrote:

JohninMK wrote:The level of desperation for PR hits rises again



Tony
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Russia is running out of tanks....and shows a pic from a transport of a T-62 headed for Syria in 2019

The picture was fake but the news ended up being true: https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1529479186720628736

Does anyone know why the heck T-62s are being sent to Ukraine?

There is no real good reason I can think of, Unless they are giving them to LNDR and DNPR forces?

Lighter and better manoeuvrability.

zorobabel wrote:

JohninMK wrote:The level of desperation for PR hits rises again



Tony
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2h

Russia is running out of tanks....and shows a pic from a transport of a T-62 headed for Syria in 2019

The picture was fake but the news ended up being true: https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1529479186720628736

Does anyone know why the heck T-62s are being sent to Ukraine?

Picture from 2019 of T-62s that were being sent to Syria

LDNR has used captured UA T-62s since 2014, and also received ones taken out of storage in Russia before. They're used to them, so it makes a certain degree of sense.

The vehicle refurbishment base in Rostov oblast, near Kamensk-Shakhtinsky has collected hundreds of them from storage all over Russia, refurbed them and supplied them to eg Syria before, so it's an already set-up resource of accessible armor for use in areas where you don't need the most modern MBT, but at least something that has better survivability than light armor or a car.

Russian regulars don't use them, at any rate.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:LDNR has used captured UA T-62s since 2014, and also received ones taken out of storage in Russia before. They're used to them, so it makes a certain degree of sense.

The vehicle refurbishment base in Rostov oblast, near Kamensk-Shakhtinsky has collected hundreds of them from storage all over Russia, refurbed them and supplied them to eg Syria before, so it's an already set-up resource of accessible armor for use in areas where you don't need the most modern MBT, but at least something that has better survivability than light armor or a car.

Russian regulars don't use them, at any rate.

Yes hence why that's the only logical excuse I could think of

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:LDNR has used captured UA T-62s since 2014, and also received ones taken out of storage in Russia before. They're used to them, so it makes a certain degree of sense.

The vehicle refurbishment base in Rostov oblast, near Kamensk-Shakhtinsky has collected hundreds of them from storage all over Russia, refurbed them and supplied them to eg Syria before, so it's an already set-up resource of accessible armor for use in areas where you don't need the most modern MBT, but at least something that has better survivability than light armor or a car.

Russian regulars don't use them, at any rate.

LDNR only have T-64s T72s and a single T54 (taken from a museum in Donetsk in 2014). They may also have a few T80s from these past 3 months captured from Ukraine, but I've never seen any footage or images over these past 8 years of them using T62s.

VARGR198 wrote:

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:LDNR has used captured UA T-62s since 2014, and also received ones taken out of storage in Russia before. They're used to them, so it makes a certain degree of sense.

The vehicle refurbishment base in Rostov oblast, near Kamensk-Shakhtinsky has collected hundreds of them from storage all over Russia, refurbed them and supplied them to eg Syria before, so it's an already set-up resource of accessible armor for use in areas where you don't need the most modern MBT, but at least something that has better survivability than light armor or a car.

Russian regulars don't use them, at any rate.

LDNR only have T-64s T72s and a single T54 (taken from a museum in Donetsk in 2014). They may also have a few T80s from these past 3 months captured from Ukraine, but I've never seen any footage or images over these past 8 years of them using T62s.

https://twitter.com/mdfzeh/status/1529385510166220809

Yes, pardon my ignorance. I was thinking of T-64s.

Successful Russian kamikaze drone strike on Ukrainian soldiers. KUB-BLA drone from Kalishnikov. Russia needs to ramp up production of these.

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1529510711382134785

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:LDNR has used captured UA T-62s since 2014, and also received ones taken out of storage in Russia before. They're used to them, so it makes a certain degree of sense.

The vehicle refurbishment base in Rostov oblast, near Kamensk-Shakhtinsky has collected hundreds of them from storage all over Russia, refurbed them and supplied them to eg Syria before, so it's an already set-up resource of accessible armor for use in areas where you don't need the most modern MBT, but at least something that has better survivability than light armor or a car.

Russian regulars don't use them, at any rate.

My thinking is that the reporting from Russian sources that Ukraine is planning a large offensive somewhere in the Kherson or Zaporozhye regions. Or they are going to be used in urban warfare like in Syria.

sepheronx wrote:T-62's will help supplement whatever was lost for the LDNR forces in the region. I'm not sure Russia has much of or any T-64's in reserve so next best thing is T-62.

These tanks are covered with Kontakt blocks and some additional armor packages. Much better than vanilla 72M1s the Ukrs are supplied with and will work just the same way as T-72B. In some cases, brass shells are even better than combusting charges from 64s and on.
It should work fine against light AT weapons, and I suppose most of them will be used as a backup.

Drone defence

ALAMO wrote:

sepheronx wrote:T-62's will help supplement whatever was lost for the LDNR forces in the region. I'm not sure Russia has much of or any T-64's in reserve so next best thing is T-62.

These tanks are covered with Kontakt blocks and some additional armor packages. Much better than vanilla 72M1s the Ukrs are supplied with and will work just the same way as T-72B. In some cases, brass shells are even better than combusting charges from 64s and on.
It should work fine against light AT weapons, and I suppose most of them will be used as a backup.

Good for infantry support. Proved itself in Syria. Worked much better there then Leo2´s. Just ask the Turkish.

Most likely the tanks will go to the DPR/LDR forces. For the attack on Dnjepropetrovsk? This stage of the operation needs even more mobility and maybe some units of the DPR/LDR lack this.

...and Speaking of Force-Z.

its the time again for some footage   :

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trailer of documentary called Mariupol,inside view


footage taken off Azov prisoners, filmed a day before their surrender in Azovstal


Busy airspace over DPR frontlines


RF Uragan MLRS firing at ukrainian forces in the Kharkov direction

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Tony
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Russia is running out of tanks....and shows a pic from a transport of a T-62 headed for Syria in 2019

Some pro Z telegram channels are reporting that there are t-62s in Melitopol now and Zaporozhye oblast.

Seems 2S7 and 2S19 are being used simultaneously by Russia.
Maybe because the latter has a higher rate of fire.

Does anyone know what causes the deep ringing sound after 2S4 Tulpan fires? Some part of the vehicle resonating, I guess.

It is not all that similar to the sound effect of the "seismic charges" in Star Wars, but kinda gives off the same vibe.

Eg https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y6SoaaG6xog

You hear the ringing aftersound in most vids of it firing. The raw aesthetic can't be ignored.

Hole wrote:
Good for infantry support. Proved itself in Syria. Worked much better there then Leo2´s. Just ask the Turkish.

Well, the 10 years of the Syrian conflict depleted the Russian stocks either. They are using 72s for their own modernization program.
So I guess that for less important jobs they will just use something that is cheap in both delivery and operating.
62s are using an old W-55 engine that is very reliable and needs hardly any attention - that is opposite to the T64s 5TDF, and T-80 GTD turbine the republican armor is consisted of. It will ride as long as you have anything that burns to fill the tanks.
Having an old tank in ranks is better than having a new tank waiting for recovery due to engine failure

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Does anyone know what causes the deep ringing sound after 2S4 Tulpan fires? Some part of the vehicle resonating, I guess.

It is not all that similar to the sound effect of the "seismic charges" in Star Wars, but kinda gives off the same vibe.

I would bet on a plate that is under the barrel. It resonates making bell like sound.

Sujoy wrote:Seems 2S7 and 2S19 are being used simultaneously by Russia.
Maybe because the latter has a higher rate of fire.

Different jobs.
2S7 is a 203mm gun, used for fire support by higher echelons of the Army.
2S19 is a 152mm howitzer used by a typical BTG.