Where are the videos of su-25 directly hitting columns of ukie tanks and weapons supplies from the west ? Where are the videos of russian aiforce hitting those long convoys from the west moving m777 artillery columns?
Hahaha.... yeah.... those M777s all came into the country in one big long convoy with their ammo at the front and the guns in the middle on special trucks and trucks for towing them behind that... obviously
The russian airforce just like the indian forums have noticed have been
the weakest link ,in the entire operation. No real close air support with precision bombing ,at least ,
no videos released by them in the last month doing that , no precision bombing of those ukie soldiers in their trenches with airforce.. or strike drones , forcing the russian army ,to fight in the most dangerous ways , of hand to hand combat , like soviet did it 70 years ago in stalingrad.
Hahahaha... how dumb are you Vann... do you understand no videos released is not the same as not attacks and no videos made.
The Orcs have already lost the 2,000 odd MBTs they had at the start of this conflict... not to mention how many fuel and ammo and weapon dumps that have been destroyed... but no video so it didn't happen... are you really that dumb?
So this video if anything proof ,that the russian airforce is next to useless in the battlefield ,in this latest months, is not replacing at all ,their limited use of heavy strike drones ,with laser guide missiles , the close support airforce is more used as scout planes , to counter the lack of intel planes ,monitoring the airspace of ukraine. throwing a few rockets ,so randomly into the air , far away of their targets , is the ice of the cake..
This video is evidence that the ground forces sent the coordinates of the target to the Su-25 crews and the Su-25 is now sophisticated enough to calculate the ballistic trajectory needed to launch those rockets to hit that geographical location without flying anywhere near it, which would make it vulnerable to MANPADS or light cannon like ZU-23-2.
Now the Orcs might set up MANPADS positions around their defensive positions but the don't know which directions the Su-25s will be coming from and using lofted rocket fire.... which I have never seen with western aircraft.... they use lofted bombing techniques, but never seen them use lofted rocket launches for unguided rockets... massively increases the volume of airspace the Orcs need to spread out their MANPADS units to defend their positions... essentially making all those Stingers less useful.
But you say that is a bad thing.
why russian airforce can't do that? a real massacre of enemy convoys tanks ,artillery ,moving
on roads being catch by the airforce ?
So the Ukrainians are just committing suicide by themselves... what do you think the Russian air force has been doing... they just aren't going to show you the videos till they are ready if at all.
If they were posting video after video of Orcs being smoked in convoys by air power the Orcs might stop using teh same convoy technique which makes them harder to kill.... why would the Russians want that... they want those Orcs to continue following HATO methods of operations because that is what Russia has been planning to fight all these years so they understand it and find it predictable...
i have yet to see a single video of Russian minister of defense showing ukie convoys destroyed
So obviously they still have thousands of tanks and aircraft and other armoured vehicles ready to use because no video of their destruction has been seen in the west... congrats on your amazing skills of logic and reason...
It’s full of Manpands so is obviously they are not gonna sent them to close.
If you have the coordinates of the target area and are using an area weapon like unguided rockets it simply makes sense to minimise the risk of return fire by lofting the rockets at the target.
Grad and Uragans and Smerch rockets are not direct line of sight unguided rockets... but they are accurate enough to be rather devastating too.
Garry don't shoot the messenger. In any case you don't have to sound so butthurt in every other message.
Why do you think the sky is falling because some Russian pilots buy Garmin receivers and use them when they work.
Are you going to search their pockets and make sure their pens are not BIC, or check to make sure their watches are not Seiko?
If they are how long are you going to cry for?
The fact of the matter is that Russia doesn't make everything and what it does make is not always the cheapest or the best.... especially in the field of electronics because the Russian market is relatively small and is dominated by western companies that also sell to much larger western markets and the rest of the world so they can actually make the same thing cheaper than a Russian maker could because of their much smaller market.
This is of course changing now... those Garmin handsets might have been made in Russia or more likely China but now they likely will ban sales so there will be an opportunity for a Russian company to step in and perhaps make an even better product... perhaps one that works in Aviation and Ground forces metrics with a button to switch between instantly, that can be custom designed for the market... no imperial measures options... just metric...
P.P.S. If you check out that channel you can see that they were donating a lot of small equipment to pilots since the start of SMO. Regular army channel can be slow in providing stuff due to bureaucracy or complicated process.
It needs explanation because there's a media propaganda narrative about Russian aircraft having GPS receivers "taped" to the cockpit since their own don't work.
Like I said, don't listen to anything you see or read in the west... the Su-25s they are the best aircraft in that class in the world.
The rockets don't appear to be using CCIP or CCRP as the pipper is aiming at a point in the sky and not s distant release point.
For unpowered bombs the aim point would obviously be on the ground depending on the drag of the bomb and the speed of the aircraft, but for ballistic rockets the aimpoint would be above the horizon if you are lofting the rockets at a patch of ground ahead of the aircraft... and a ballistic computer linked to a navigation system would be necessary to calculate the angles in real time to fire and get useful launches... think of it as a GRAD system that can fire on the move...
Ffs looks like the only way to ignore vann7 is to put everyone quoting him on ignore too
Dudes literally a childish troll spouting the same garbage every day on repeat mode, worst poster here. Why you people keep trying to engage him in a serious convo is beyond me
Because ignoring him makes it appear that everyone thinks he is right...
Any close air support system should use the same coordinate system as the troops on the ground. Seems like a massive oversight if you need a 3rd party system to work out the conversion.
NASA fell in to that trap once... their engineers work in metric but their media relations department work in imperial measures because that is what their public understands. Some designs were created using mixed dimensions and the resulting rocket failed because you can't mix dimensions in one design and expect it to work normally...
Here we are still talking about that video on Youtube from around 2009 that showed a Russian trainer aircraft with a Garmin on the dash.(probably communicating with GLONASS, the only other functional GPS system at the time) But now there appears to be a new iteration of the story.
If you go to the Garmin website their new receivers all use GLONASS as well as NAVSTAR and BEIDOU and some even also use GALLIEO, because the more satellites it can use the better accuracy it can achieve.
How does the CCIP of the Su-25 calculate shooting the rockets indirectly? The HUD seems to do 0 calculation for the pilot.
The navigation system knows the position of the Su-25 and the target coordinates... it knows the flight speed of the aircraft and its altitude and it knows the ballistic performance of the rockets... punch all that information into a computer and give a beep warning to the pilot to pull back on the stick and when the angle of the aircraft reaches the required angle... launch the rockets...
The same calculations have to be made for a Grad unit... its location, the location of the target... the elevation required, the performance of the 122mm rockets.... fire...
The only difference is that the Su-25 is doing the calculations in real time based on changing information... which introduces error, but the much shorter flight time of the rockets means accuracy should still be comparable or better.
You can't exactly hide one up ur ass, these are large machines that need to be moved by truck.
You can put it into a truck trailer... you can even put a tarp over it with packing that completely changes its shape...
A lot of drugs are made locally and if not for the drugs they would sniff glue or gas. So whatever.
When there is money to be made you can get most things... even in places that should be secure like a prison...
Whining about things getting through is just pathetic...
Can they do better?
Probably... but it is all about effort.... you would need to put in 100% more effort to reduce traffic by 1% and it probably isn't worth it.
It's not a video from 2009 though, it's a video from the last few days.
Doesn't really matter when the video was made... the fact is that the attempted slant that Russian planes can't navigate without American GPS equipment is amusing... their cruise missiles seem to be accurate enough to do the job and the accuracy required for a missile to hit a target is much higher than the accuracy needed to pilot an aircraft... precision of cms is irrelevant for a pilot to fly their plane...
From my own experience, the Leopard 2A5 had a build in navigation system.
Thanks... I am not a pilot but I have a friend with a licence to fly light aircraft and he uses Garmin receivers... he bought a cellphone dashboard mount and uses that for it in the Cessna he flys. (detachable because it is not his plane).
It is a simple easy to read display... that includes a live map.
And nobody is trimming their quotes, everyone post quoted crap in full even though it’s AGAINST THE FORUM RULES!!!
Very good point.Warning to members... reposting entire conversations to reply to one piece is against the rules... don't be lazy... take the time to trim... or get a break from the forum to think about it.
It is a courtesy to other members.
Whats the reason that russian can't do a decapitation offensive through Lutsk or Rovno from the west belarussian border? Most of the ukrainian army is in the east, and Russia can freely move its troops through Belarus.
Chew your food... don't bite off more than you can chew or you choke.
Things are going fine... no value in getting Belarus dragged in to this because having Russian troops there... things are working just fine... why change tactics when the current tactics are working.
The Ukraine forces in the cauldrons are not trying to escape so there is no reason to close them... just keep picking off any support or reinforcements trying to go in and also small parties trying to leave.
Why did Lukashenko allow Russia to pass through chernobyl, but not attack west?
Russian control of Chernobyl is in everyones interests at this stage of the conflict...
War is about winning, not killing.
This war is about eliminating a threat... which means killing or capturing is winning.
Also stopping western weapons shipments. Also eviscerating the enemy behind the frontlines.
They are already doing this, but not at 100% efficiency... (which would not be achievable).
Side which stacks more enemy corpses will always win in the long run
Can't agree with that... Germany didn't win the eastern front in WWII despite murdering everyone they could for as long as they could, but I do agree that Russia is going to solve the problems that led to this conflict starting by eliminating nazis in the Ukraine and getting rid of the current government... whether by cruise missile or by forcing a coup...
Killing or capturing the enemy is how it will be done... holding territory is irrelevant and pointless in this situation... it is about grinding up enemy man power.
Only a clown amateur would treat some cheap drone as the main instrument of modern warfare
Drones are definitely force multipliers and can make a lot of things much easier, but when you have air control and artillery and decent air defence systems you don't need as many drones... certainly suicide drones are for smaller weaker sides trying to hit back at a superior force... the delivery of sensational videos that look more impressive than they actually are is great for propaganda which is why children think they are so amazing... but in this situation Russia wins by killing or capturing the enemy... not posting shit on the internet.