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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #14

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:55 pm

    flamming_python wrote:...Where we are is a very dangerous twilight zone in between and its of utmost importance for Russia to define the boundaries of the conflict and contain it. Prevent anyone else entering the war.  ...

    Preventing anyone from entering the war is easy,

    Russia is in war with Ukraine, if any military tries to enter Ukraine for any reason you just blow them to pieces on entry

    Make sure that this is communicated to possible candidates



    flamming_python wrote:...But making threats to fry X numbers of different nationalities is not the way to do it. ...

    It's the easiest way to do it and it's been working so far, threat is implicit by default and it's only thing that's been keeping you alive last several decades

    If someone wants to die oblige them, it's not Russia's job to keep nations from committing collective suicide

    Get this into your heads already


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    Post  mnztr Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:03 pm

    nomadski wrote:
    @mnztr

    Russia if confronted with existential threat, by larger conventional force, will be forced to escalate to non- convential war! But should it wait until a convential threat becomes an existential threat, necessitating the use of nukes? In my view no, it should not. The escalation to nukes, should happen, well before tensions are allowed to reach that level. Sarmat in the public eye is just another missile. We should not fail, to drive home the reality of nuclear war. Savage humanity, needs more explicit examples. Live Nuke explosions, as warnings, across uninhabited areas or near enemy ships Now! At least that is what my brain tells me, not my heart!

    A counter attack from Ukraine is not an existential threat. Its a FUCKING OPPORTUNITY to deliver a blow and get this fucking war won!!! They should have 25 SU-25s and 30 attack helo and 10 TOS-1 as well as a shit load of Grads ready to make mincemeat!!! Moving back more then just to lead the Ukes into a killbox is pathetic.

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:03 pm

    mnztr wrote:At this point shouldn't leadership of Ukraine become targets? Zelensky is an impediment at this point and at least the minsters around him should be targets...I mean...this is a war right?

    No

    You want Zelensky the Big Hero alive and well so when every last Ukrainian dumb enough to resist is dead or mutilated he can sign a paper and take a nice photo with Putin after which you let him retire with all his money to France back to his wife

    That way all those remaining Ukranian asshats who will still be living in squalor just as before will be looking at that photo and wondering why are their relatives dead or crippled while the Hero boy is living large and enjoying fancy shopping with his wife in Paris

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    Post  mnztr Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:10 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    mnztr wrote:At this point shouldn't leadership of Ukraine become targets? Zelensky is an impediment at this point and at least the minsters around him should be targets...I mean...this is a war right?

    No

    You want Zelensky the Big Hero alive and well so when every last Ukrainian dumb enough to resist is dead or mutilated he can sign a paper and take a nice photo with Putin after which you let him retire with all his money to France back to his wife

    That way all those remaining Ukranian asshats who will still be living in squalor just as before will be looking at that photo and wondering why are their relatives dead or crippled while the Hero boy is living large and enjoying fancy shopping with his wife in Paris


    THe reality is that Russia is gonna inherit this mess. NATO will say see ya later and just move back one county. So any broken bodies will be a drag on the Russian economy for decades.

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    Post  diabetus Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:26 pm

    kvs wrote:
    diabetus wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #14 - Page 4 Img_2013


    Looks like the bridge near odessa has minor damage

    Other photos indicate the bridge is no longer structurally worthy.   It does not need to be brought down into the water to become useless
    for its function.   People on this board masturbate way too quickly about Russian fails.  Russia could have sent a few more cruise missiles
    to "finnish the job" but chose not to.   That is not because it does not have enough cruise missiles as claimed by NATzO retards, but because
    the remote intelligence determined that the damage was sufficient.


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    Post  Azi Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:28 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    mnztr wrote:At this point shouldn't leadership of Ukraine become targets? Zelensky is an impediment at this point and at least the minsters around him should be targets...I mean...this is a war right?

    No

    You want Zelensky the Big Hero alive and well so when every last Ukrainian dumb enough to resist is dead or mutilated he can sign a paper and take a nice photo with Putin after which you let him retire with all his money to France back to his wife

    That way all those remaining Ukranian asshats who will still be living in squalor just as before will be looking at that photo and wondering why are their relatives dead or crippled while the Hero boy is living large and enjoying fancy shopping with his wife in Paris

    Soo true! thumbsup

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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:32 pm

    Lol if Ukraine falls those Zelensky and company who know too much will have tank car accidents.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:40 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:
    RTN wrote:
    Isos wrote:What a joke. Some chinese generals are hoping for a war, no matter which. They want to test themselves in a real war.
    China can't even afford to launch a military campaign against Taiwan. A third world hell hole like India stopped the Chinese on their tracks two years ago.

    Hoping Kung Flus do come for a test. From your mouth to dog's ear.

    I'm sorry for comparing you with cockroaches, because you are more stupid..

    Your views might be polls apart but there is surely no need for insults like that on this forum?

    Okay, there's no need for that and I agree with you. Explain to me then what else to do with such guys? If we keep quiet about every jerk they send, we give them legality. It is clear to us that they are provoking us, it is also clear to them that they are doing it consciously. Here, give the other members a suggestion.

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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:43 pm

    Stupidity is a reality not an insult. The guy is stupid, he is stupid... you can't say he is a genius.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:55 pm

    🇷🇺🇧🇬⚡The Energy Ministry of Bulgaria reported that Gazprom informed Bulgargaz about the suspension of gas supplies from April 27 - Reuters

    🇷🇺🇵🇱⚡The Polish oil and gas company PGNIG received a notification from Gazprom that from the morning of April 27, the supply of Russian natural gas will be completely stopped

    Goodnight sleep tight bitches, the coca cola won't work for the lights, but you can freeze with sugar in your belly!

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:59 pm

    These gaz shutoff will affect all Europe, this is a message to the EU , because if the gas stops pumping through Poland and Bulgaria it has effectively stopped to all Europe
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:01 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇷🇺🇧🇬⚡The Energy Ministry of Bulgaria reported that Gazprom informed Bulgargaz about the suspension of gas supplies from April 27 - Reuters

    🇷🇺🇵🇱⚡The Polish oil and gas company PGNIG received a notification from Gazprom that from the morning of April 27, the supply of Russian natural gas will be completely stopped

    Goodnight sleep tight bitches, the coca cola won't work for the lights, but you can freeze with sugar in your belly!

    Sugar keeps you warm actually but not warm enough during winter

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:03 pm

    Finally Putin has delivered , we have fucked europe hard

    Hahahaha am taking it all in

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    Post  kvs Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:05 pm

    diabetus wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    diabetus wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #14 - Page 4 Img_2013


    Looks like the bridge near odessa has minor damage

    Other photos indicate the bridge is no longer structurally worthy.   It does not need to be brought down into the water to become useless
    for its function.   People on this board masturbate way too quickly about Russian fails.  Russia could have sent a few more cruise missiles
    to "finnish the job" but chose not to.   That is not because it does not have enough cruise missiles as claimed by NATzO retards, but because
    the remote intelligence determined that the damage was sufficient.


    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #14 - Page 4 Img_2016

    What does that prove?

    You demonstrate my point.

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    Post  caveat emptor Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:08 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #14 - Page 4 Bryans10

    It looks like Baryaktar drones are behind Bryansk attacks. Upon inspection, shrapnel from Rocketsan munitions, that Baryaktar uses were found at oil depot location.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:09 pm

    The AFU planned an attack on Transnistria, as well as to capture Russian soldiers in that area and seize their weapons, and then replace them with Ukrainian prisoners. The Russian military contingent in that area is in full combat readiness.
    To summarize what Yuri said in the last post ...
    AFU is positioning itself around the city of Zaporozhye, because they expect that the Russian army will soon approach that city. KHERSON and Nikolaev, the initiative is completely on the Russian side and the Russian army is trying to further improve it, while sovereignly keeping the already conquered positions under its control.



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    Post  caveat emptor Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:09 pm

    kvs wrote:
    diabetus wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    diabetus wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #14 - Page 4 Img_2013


    Looks like the bridge near odessa has minor damage

    Other photos indicate the bridge is no longer structurally worthy.   It does not need to be brought down into the water to become useless
    for its function.   People on this board masturbate way too quickly about Russian fails.  Russia could have sent a few more cruise missiles
    to "finnish the job" but chose not to.   That is not because it does not have enough cruise missiles as claimed by NATzO retards, but because
    the remote intelligence determined that the damage was sufficient.


    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #14 - Page 4 Img_2016

    What does that prove?

    You demonstrate my point.


    That might, very well, be the case, but additional Kalibr won't hurt.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:11 pm

    mnztr wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:..........
    THe reality is that Russia is gonna inherit this mess. NATO will say see ya later and just move back one county. So any broken bodies will be a drag on the Russian economy for decades.

    No they won't be


    Demilitarized and decentralized Ukraine is perfectly self-sustainable

    They have plenty of loyal locals to staff security services

    No military means no needless large expenditures

    Population size and density is low and declining

    Agriculture, energy production, transport, trade and some remaining industry is more than enough to cover expenses of infrastructure, healthcare, education, law enforcement and social services through taxes



    Russian military would be handling any external issues

    Managing post-war Ukraine will be easy but they need to properly finish the military part first


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    Post  diabetus Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:12 pm

    kvs wrote:
    diabetus wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    diabetus wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #14 - Page 4 Img_2013


    Looks like the bridge near odessa has minor damage

    Other photos indicate the bridge is no longer structurally worthy.   It does not need to be brought down into the water to become useless
    for its function.   People on this board masturbate way too quickly about Russian fails.  Russia could have sent a few more cruise missiles
    to "finnish the job" but chose not to.   That is not because it does not have enough cruise missiles as claimed by NATzO retards, but because
    the remote intelligence determined that the damage was sufficient.


    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #14 - Page 4 Img_2016

    What does that prove?

    You demonstrate my point.


    Shows that damage could/should have been much more serious. If it's structurally compromised it can be quickly shored up.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:13 pm

    I wouldn't worry about Russian economy

    The ruble is trending to 70 per USD

    And gas shutoff to Europe means that they will have lot more to worry about then us

    Europe is about to become the epicenter of blackouts

    And that is a double entendre

    Between lights going out and africans... well...

    As I said, good night sleep tight

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    Post  walle83 Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:14 pm

    I dont know if this has been posted, but the US might aparently transfer thier tactical missile systems M142 HIMARS to Ukraines.

    https://avia-pro.net/news/ssha-peredadut-ukraine-kompleksy-m142-himars-s-dalnostyu-do-500-kilometrov
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    Post  kvs Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:15 pm

    diabetus wrote:

    Shows that damage could/should have been much more serious. If it's structurally compromised it can be quickly shored up.

    The damage to the bridge base is more extensive than the damage to the rails. Send a train and have the locomotive do the
    final damage.

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    Post  Hole Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:20 pm

    kvs wrote:
    mnztr wrote:https://twitter.com/AggregateOsint/status/1518580619655073793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1518580619655073793%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fterb.cc%2Fxenforo%2Fthreads%2Fwar-logistics-expert-telenko-and-other-war-analysts-commentary.776735%2Fpage-12

    any truth to this? If Russia does not have aviation and arty to absolutely savage any counter attack then this is utter incompetence IMHO. There should be TOS1 ready to incenerate any kind of attack

    Zero evidence this is real.   But there is evidence of destruction of Kiev regime forces around Alexandrovka.  


    https://southfront.org/in-video-21-russian-forces-destroyed-ukrainian-positions-in-kherson-region/

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    Post  SolidarityWithRussia Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:21 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Finally Putin has delivered , we have fucked europe hard

    Hahahaha am taking it all in

    German people now got to be really thankful for the North Stream pipeline that has been demonized for so long (as well as former chancellor Gerhard Schröder). If people here in Germany were dependent on the morons in the Polish government, we and some other countries would be screwed. I just hope our politicians are not foolish enough to cut off North Stream (i.e. NS1 not NS2). If they do, they can expect a bloody revolution with their heads put on a stick.

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    Post  kvs Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:25 pm

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/45319

    The civilians at the Azov steel mill are being held in a bomb shelter (number 18207).

    I have heard some analysis that they are relatives and family members of the Azov terrorists. This
    is truly cult behaviour. The jihadis in Syria also had their families in tow.

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