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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:03 pm

    Looking at the map I think it's a shame that they couldn't take kerson and Sumy. It's just accross the border. Pretty easy to siege or even hit from within russian border with artillery. It's also at range for loitering munitions.

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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:05 pm

    Sujoy wrote:US said today, they won’t rule out military action if China establishes base in Solomon Islands.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/26/us-wont-rule-out-military-action-if-china-establishes-base-in-solomon-islands?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1650947312

    Solomon Islands is 1000s of miles from US. But [according to the West] Russia is violating "rules based global order" by reacting to NATO coming to share a border with it.

    What a joke. Some chinese generals are hoping for a war, no matter which. They want to test themselves in a real war.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:07 pm

    Isos wrote:Looking at the map I think it's a shame that they couldn't take kerson and Sumy. It's just accross the border. Pretty easy to siege or even hit from within russian border with artillery. It's also at range for loitering munitions.

    They could take it

    It was taken

    The imbeciles of Kremlin thought it was some 6d chess move and would get a ceasefire

    What they got was azov spetsnaz running amok in Russia

    I thought the time of frustration was over, but I am wrong ,

    You can never be sure with these people

    They think of Russian people like the vatnik meme

    Who cares if some rural guys die

    But not soloviev and skabeeva , God forbid they die, so nuclear was is coming

    Its such cynicism that pisses me off

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    Post  sepheronx Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:29 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Isos wrote:Looking at the map I think it's a shame that they couldn't take kerson and Sumy. It's just accross the border. Pretty easy to siege or even hit from within russian border with artillery. It's also at range for loitering munitions.

    They could take it

    It was taken

    The imbeciles of Kremlin thought it was some 6d chess move and would get a ceasefire

    What they got was azov spetsnaz running amok in Russia

    I thought the time of frustration was over, but I am wrong ,

    You can never be sure with these people

    They think of Russian people like the vatnik meme

    Who cares if some rural guys die

    But not soloviev and skabeeva , God forbid they die, so nuclear was is coming

    Its such cynicism that pisses me off

    On your mood swings again?

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:31 pm

    🇺🇦🇷🇺⚡Ukraine will go on a counteroffensive as soon as it receives weapons from the West, a lot of heavy weapons have been destroyed by the Russian Army - Arestovich essentially admitted

    “We don’t have heavy weapons now. We need them. The West will provide them to us, and we will immediately launch a counteroffensive. There will be no delays,” Zelensky’s office representative said.

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    Post  sepheronx Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:33 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇺🇦🇷🇺⚡Ukraine will go on a counteroffensive as soon as it receives weapons from the West, a lot of heavy weapons have been destroyed by the Russian Army - Arestovich essentially admitted

    “We don’t have heavy weapons now. We need them. The West will provide them to us, and we will immediately launch a counteroffensive. There will be no delays,” Zelensky’s office representative said.


    Their counter offensives have been massive failures. Even new equipment cannot help them. They arent short of small arms. They are short on actual mobile armored vehicles and short on trained manpower.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:38 pm

    It won't result in anything, but it's not the point

    Point is, it will be another month these assholes will be kamikazes

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    Post  RTN Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:40 pm

    Isos wrote:What a joke. Some chinese generals are hoping for a war, no matter which. They want to test themselves in a real war.
    China can't even afford to launch a military campaign against Taiwan. A third world hell hole like India stopped the Chinese on their tracks two years ago.

    Hoping Kung Flus do come for a test. From your mouth to dog's ear.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:40 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇺🇦🇷🇺⚡Ukraine will go on a counteroffensive as soon as it receives weapons from the West, a lot of heavy weapons have been destroyed by the Russian Army - Arestovich essentially admitted

    “We don’t have heavy weapons now. We need them. The West will provide them to us, and we will immediately launch a counteroffensive. There will be no delays,” Zelensky’s office representative said.


    Their counter offensives have been massive failures.  Even new equipment cannot help them.  They arent short of small arms.  They are short on actual mobile armored vehicles and short on trained manpower.

    Seems that Snuffy shared some goooood shit with his buddy because both are more funny than usual.
    We will attack, as soon as we will get 200 pcs of armored gear.
    Sure we had 2300 2 months ago, and the trained personnel for it, but hey, it was all a different thing!

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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:40 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇺🇦🇷🇺⚡Ukraine will go on a counteroffensive as soon as it receives weapons from the West, a lot of heavy weapons have been destroyed by the Russian Army - Arestovich essentially admitted

    “We don’t have heavy weapons now. We need them. The West will provide them to us, and we will immediately launch a counteroffensive. There will be no delays,” Zelensky’s office representative said.


    If they lost with the equipement they were trained on and available in quantity and with 100% of their soldiers, what do they expect to do with 10 US howitzer, 50 nato bmp and half of their soldiers available ?

    Pretty dumb. They are clearly fighting to destroy Ukraine nd kill as much ukrainians as possible.

    Reality is that thry could have just lost Donbass with no dead. They choose to lost ukraine with hundreds of thousands of deads at the end.

    It's officially a banana republic. Well, banana republics have bananas to sell. Ukrinians have nothing left.

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    Post  lancelot Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:44 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:It's rubbish that phase 2 would include a storm in donetsk
    What we see is the methodical approach to fighting village by village to reduce casualties
    In this case we could have maintained the positions we had in phase 1, because it never was a question of manpower
    It's not like the extra man power is being used now for large offensives anyway
    We would have held all this time and grind the VSU the same as is being done now
    And we would have held Sumy, Chernigov, Kiev, and the rest of the north
    I think after Kharkov did not submit and they saw they might have to assault that place eventually it would have been dangerous to leave those troops in those extended positions almost near Kiev where Ukraine could continue attacking their supply lines. So they pulled those troops in extended positions back. I personally also think Russia should have just captured everything East of the Dnieper river first. But they probably figured out that wasn't possible. Not with this level of manpower anyway. With regards to Kiev taking it with this amount of manpower is near impossible. Turning into rubble would however be quite easy if they wanted to.

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    Post  SolidarityWithRussia Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:49 pm

    I wonder how heavy weapons from Nato are going to be delivered in Ukraine. I guess military convoys would be easy targets and in general moving big delivieries might be too hard to hide. The worst thing that could happen is when Nato soldiers are deliviering those weapons themselves and then legitimately get destroyed. In Washington the hawks that are pushing for a nuclear show down are already waiting for the slightest justification. Even those politicians that supposedly reject a nuclear war are flirting with the idea of global mass destruction by crossing all the red lines they can. It seems like they just want to persuade their own population to sacrifice themselves. Brainwashed Westerners are a very unreliable factor, if someone hopes for peace.
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:50 pm

    lancelot wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:It's rubbish that phase 2 would include a storm in donetsk
    What we see is the methodical approach to fighting village by village to reduce casualties
    In this case we could have maintained the positions we had in phase 1, because it never was a question of manpower
    It's not like the extra man power is being used now for large offensives anyway
    We would have held all this time and grind the VSU the same as is being done now
    And we would have held Sumy, Chernigov, Kiev, and the rest of the north
    I think after Kharkov did not submit and they saw they might have to assault that place eventually it would have been dangerous to leave those troops in those extended positions almost near Kiev where Ukraine could continue attacking their supply lines. So they pulled those troops in extended positions back. I personally also think Russia should have just captured everything East of the Dnieper river first. But they probably figured out that wasn't possible. Not with this level of manpower anyway.

    It was said Plan A failed in that they were trying to force Kiev to submit. roll over. Their masters in the west refused to let Ukraine do it so Plan B was put into motion. Forces were sent from Kiev area out eastwards towards LDNR territory. When Plan A was happening, Russia did lose a fair chunk of equipment and lost quite a few soldiers due to their fast pace move and no rear support. So instead, they were forced to do a more drawn out conflict. Now they are creating more cauldrons and preventing goods from entering the area by not just bombing railroad links, but striking anything moving near or to the direction.

    Issue is that there is little Russia can do to stop Ukrainians smuggling themselves into Russia to commit terrorist attacks. That is where the FSB and Nation Guard comes in. Their duty is to protect the borders. And in this regard, shy of building a wall and setting up landmines around, there isn't a whole lot that can be done besides patrolling the borders more, more surveillance, improved counter intelligence, and the like.

    Anyway, they are trying to surround Ukraines forces in the west and successfully doing so, while hunkering down now in Kherson for example.

    But I do agree that we will probably see that in next week or two, that Russia may start moving further towards Odessa.
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    Post  ALAMO Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:02 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    It was said Plan A failed in that they were trying to force Kiev to submit.  roll over.  Their masters in the west refused to let Ukraine do it so Plan B was put into motion.  Forces were sent from Kiev area out eastwards towards LDNR territory.  

    The question is if Plan A failed indeed.
    My opinion is, that only partially.
    Sure, they didn't get the political result, that is submission of Charkov in the first place, and the north-east part of Ukraine in all.
    But what they did, was keep most of the Ukro reserves in the north, effecting in dividing the forces into several operational theatres, that could not cooperate and strengthen each other.
    This was done perfectly, I recommend you to watch closely the withdrawal ...
    It took the Ukro side a few days to finally realize the scale and effect of it, so only after 2-3 days they could get in, claiming "counteroffensive" and all that bullshit.
    Russian echelons were halfway to the south already, outmaneuvering them greatly.
    I would rather say, that they have adopted very fast, and changed the strategy for the whole campaign.
    With the strongpoints strategy, Ukrainians were prepared for Russian rapd advance, to inflict a mass casualties to them both on the offensive, but what more - on the logistics.
    Now, as they move slowly, physically killing all the resistance - the whole strategy is a piece of paper only. There will be no strongpoints, ammo stocks, and artillery to hit the supply columns when Russkie finish each strongpoint.
    The human losses on the Ukro side are enormous. It is clear not only by watching the materials provided by the republican corps or Chechens about the numbers, but the quality. We see an army od 50 y/o. Fifth mobilization wave. Seventh. Where is Volkssthurm, where is Banderajugend?

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    Post  Hole Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:12 pm

    George1 wrote:UK to transfer to Ukraine from the presence of the British army a batch of Stormer HVM self-propelled air defense systems, with StarStreak missiles.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4517312.html

    De-militarization of NATO continues.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:20 pm

    Hole wrote:
    George1 wrote:UK to transfer to Ukraine from the presence of the British army a batch of Stormer HVM self-propelled air defense systems, with StarStreak missiles.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4517312.html

    De-militarization of NATO continues.

    Hardly.
    It is making a room for fat, tasty MIC meals.
    Unfortunately, it won't be our, European contractors who will get that bowl, but the Muricans.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:32 pm

    RTN wrote:
    Isos wrote:What a joke. Some chinese generals are hoping for a war, no matter which. They want to test themselves in a real war.
    China can't even afford to launch a military campaign against Taiwan. A third world hell hole like India stopped the Chinese on their tracks two years ago.

    Hoping Kung Flus do come for a test. From your mouth to dog's ear.

    Hahahaha you are the king of fucking idiots

    But you made me laugh for sure

    And where is the US army? Sodom training ?

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    Post  Werewolf Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:37 pm

    RTN wrote:
    China can't even afford to launch a military campaign against Taiwan. A third world hell hole like India stopped the Chinese on their tracks two years ago.

    Hoping Kung Flus do come for a test. From your mouth to dog's ear.

    I would really feel ashamed if you were my country man, because this claims are just beyond retardedness even for trolling they are so stupid that it only makes you look dump even in the eyes of head hunters for trolls.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:42 pm

    🇷🇺🇵🇱❗Russia has suspended gas supplies to Poland under the "Yamal contract" - Polish portal Onet

    According to the newspaper, the Russian Federation did not inform the Polish side about the reasons for the suspension of supplies. A crisis group has already been urgently convened in the Polish government.

    Bahahahahaa fill your car with coca cola!

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    Post  diabetus Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:49 pm

    Canada is sending Ukraine 155mm Excalibur GPS guided shells.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:58 pm

    diabetus wrote:Canada is sending Ukraine 155mm Excalibur GPS guided shells.

    They'll provide pretty fireworks when they are hit at the railheads.

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    Post  kvs Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:02 pm

    French and British maps are inane.   The hashed zone in Lugansk was previously attributed to Ukr control.   This has not been
    the case since late March.   The French map is better than the British because it does not pretend there is no land corridor
    around Mariupol just because not every Azov terrorists has been exterminated.   The Kiev regime has clearly no ability to
    rescue Azov terrorists and the Azov terrorists have no ability to break out.   The British love to live in fantasy.


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    Post  lancelot Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:04 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Russia has suspended gas supplies to Poland under the "Yamal contract" - Polish portal Onet
    According to the newspaper, the Russian Federation did not inform the Polish side about the reasons for the suspension of supplies.  A crisis group has already been urgently convened in the Polish government.
    According to TASS-
    "Earlier, the Polish portal Onet reported citing unofficial data in government circles and the energy company PGNiG that Russia had suspended gas supplies to Poland under the Yamal contract. According to the portal, a crisis headquarters has been set up at the Ministry of Climate Affairs. Officially, the suspension of supplies is not reported, a notice of this should be received within a day.

    The Polish portal stresses that the payment deadline for the upcoming month expired last Friday. Earlier, Polish Government Plenipotentiary for Strategic Energy Infrastructure Piotr Naimski said that the Polish authorities did not intend to agree to Moscow’s demand to pay for Russian gas in rubles. He said that Poland was ready for the actions of the Russian side, suggesting the potential suspension of supplies."

    So they do not pay and still want gas? Get outta here.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:16 pm

    RTN wrote:
    Isos wrote:What a joke. Some chinese generals are hoping for a war, no matter which. They want to test themselves in a real war.
    China can't even afford to launch a military campaign against Taiwan. A third world hell hole like India stopped the Chinese on their tracks two years ago.

    Hoping Kung Flus do come for a test. From your mouth to dog's ear.

    I'm sorry for comparing you with cockroaches, because you are more stupid..

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