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    Post  JohninMK Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:18 pm

    Isos wrote:I was thinking the same. They use the same helicopters as russians and at low altitude IFF systems may have hard times.

    Even following returning Russian helicopters or just their routes could cause confusion.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:29 pm

    This first item really doesn't make sense, its not the first time Russia itself was attacked.

    Gregor Martin
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    Peskov now says "no comfortable conditions for continuing negotiations". Because of Belgorod.
    After 5 weeks of war, huge destructions and over 10K Ukrainians killed in their own country, Russia now says that their feelings were hurt by loosing a bit of fuel in #Belgorod? Really?

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    KREMLIN SAYS UKRAINIAN STRIKE ON RUSSIAN FUEL DEPOT INSIDE RUSSIA DOES NOT CREATE COMFORTABLE CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE PEACE TALKS



    More normal items

    Gregor Martin
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    #Avdiivka was heavily shelled. #Maryinka is also under continuous russian fire since night.

    Gregor Martin
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    Battle at Velyka Novosilka (Donetsk obl.) since morning, russian forces are trying to break through Ukrianian lines there.

    There are also reports that russian forces are trying to advance towards #Slovyansk from north.


    Finally, well, well, well, how about that then Laughing Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:52 pm

    This is here due to the second item.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:57 pm

    Turning on themselves?

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    🇺🇦PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE ZELENSKY-HE DISMISSED TWO OF HIS GENERALS ON CHARGES OF TREASON.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:00 pm

    https://www.rt.com/russia/553091-ukraine-attack-oil-depot-russia/

    Does not create comfortable conditions...

    They hit fuel supplies... no fucking shit , there's nothing to discuss

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:08 pm

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    If I were Ukrainian I'd be kinda pissed that Westerners attribute every single Ukrainian success to either the (imaginary) total incompetence of the Russian army (if they're pro-UKR) or to (imaginary) direct American intervention (if they're pro-RU), but never to Ukrainian skills

    Western anti-Slav bias so strong that they can't accept that the AFU is the 2nd strongest army in Europe & juiced up on eight years of combat + NATO support

    Literally all Russian news agencies are reporting the attack and showing the videos with the helicopters https://twitter.com/ximicecinica/s



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    Post  Broski Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:15 pm

    mavaff wrote:another video, showing choppers getting out after striking
    https://twitter.com/Vick_top55/status/1509780150266875905
    Gotta give credit to the Ukrops, that was a pretty ballsy move right there, legacy Soviet training at its best. Had it been the Neonazi Orcs piloting those helicopters they would've blown up several residential buildings and hospitals instead.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:15 pm

    IMHO the best map source, the French MoD

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    Latest French Defence Ministry map (day 35):
    - RUS ivo Kiev loosens grip to reposition
    - RUS offensive in Donbass
    - RUS offensive against ivo Izyium & Kharkov
    - RUS reinforce advance to Zaporizhia/up Dnieper
    - RUS consolidating Mariupol gain
    - east/central front = main RUS effort



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    Post  franco Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:19 pm

    Some few items:

    - notice that some analyst were quoting the 2 contractors for every conscript in manpower but that is not counting the officers and warrants. Factor those in and the conscripts make up only 25% of the operational forces.
    - saw a video the last couple days in which some Cossack's were on their way to Kherson. Not sure if they were irregulars or some other regular Cossack units. There are designated Cossack units in both the Armed Forces and National Guard.

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    Post  Isos Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:26 pm

    So we may see a shoke and awe in the east very soon.

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    Post  Isos Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:29 pm

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:42 pm

    It's a lie.
    Russkies run out of missiles on March 20th already.
    I know that because I hear carefully what the Pentagon has to say.
    Amen to that!
    Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:50 pm

    Isos wrote:So we may see a shoke and awe in the east very soon.

    That's what I'm thinking

    Russia is withdrawing from Kiev and Chernigov, and sending all its forces to strike at the Donbass grouping

    The Ukrainians are sending a load of reinforcements to the Donbass, and have a second grouping around Zaporozhie too, to get the first group out if need be

    However they're prepared for the Russian army of the past week, the one just lazily passing by and not much using all its resources as long as the Ukrainians in their sector aren't too active.

    Here we may see massive armored fists strike through to Zaporozhie along with a mass of air-power, to encircle all Ukrainian forces or cut them into smaller pockets.

    There is also some activity at the Nikolayev direction too.

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    Post  Hole Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:55 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Isos wrote:I was thinking the same. They use the same helicopters as russians and at low altitude IFF systems may have hard times.

    Even following returning Russian helicopters or just their routes could cause confusion.

    I´m pretty sure the AD units keep double and triple checking anything before launching missiles. Instead of shoting down these helis at 40km with Buk missiles this could lead to "Ops, there are objects (buildings) in the way!" Or to the danger of hitting the depot themselves.

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    Post  Hole Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:58 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/553091-ukraine-attack-oil-depot-russia/

    Does not create comfortable conditions...

    They hit fuel supplies... no fucking shit , there's nothing to discuss

    A civilian depot. Doesn´t even interrupt the fuel supply in the region, according to the governor. If so I would guess that Rosneft and other oil companies got a few oil trucks in their inventory to help out.

    But this incident could lead to Rosgvardija getting MANPADS or even SHORADS. In the near future they could guard civilian objects even against air attacks.

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    Post  Hole Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:59 pm

    ALAMO wrote:It's a lie.
    Russkies run out of missiles on March 20th already.
    I know that because I hear carefully what the Pentagon has to say.
    Amen to that!
    Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Looks like something the Iranians do for holidays. Laughing

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    Post  mavaff Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:25 pm

    Russian Mi28 shot down by Manpads around Luhansk a few hours ago.
    Crew reportedly survived.

    https://t.me/aviationreport/167

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:59 pm

    Looks like people from all over Russia, mostly the Caucasus but also ethnic Russians - are adding themselves to Kadyrov's army, being trained at the Special Forces centre in Grozny, to then be sent to the front



    What is Kadyrov's true angle here, I wonder? Laughing

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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:04 pm

    Flamming ukrop will not like this... The bastard didn't like the ISOS video with the Iskander missiles either. Heavy bastard!



    MOSCOW, 1 April. /TASS/. The Russian Defense Ministry showed footage of a strike on the Ukrainian S-300 anti-aircraft missile system (SAM). video in the link

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14251679

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    Post  franco Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:20 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Isos wrote:So we may see a shoke and awe in the east very soon.

    That's what I'm thinking

    Russia is withdrawing from Kiev and Chernigov, and sending all its forces to strike at the Donbass grouping

    The Ukrainians are sending a load of reinforcements to the Donbass, and have a second grouping around Zaporozhie too, to get the first group out if need be

    However they're prepared for the Russian army of the past week, the one just lazily passing by and not much using all its resources as long as the Ukrainians in their sector aren't too active.

    Here we may see massive armored fists strike through to Zaporozhie along with a mass of air-power, to encircle all Ukrainian forces or cut them into smaller pockets.

    There is also some activity at the Nikolayev direction too.

    Disagree on the reinforcements to the Donbas. They know it is going down, just wanting to drag it out like Mariupol. Any troops, and they are claiming 15,000, will go to set up protection in front of the Dnieper. They mentioned some SF to the Donbas but if true they are just there to prevent troops from surrendering or retreating.

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    Post  Arrow Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:22 pm

    https://m.vk.com/video-206639135_456249990

    Sorry this is probably fake.


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    Post  franco Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:23 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Looks like people from all over Russia, mostly the Caucasus but also ethnic Russians - are adding themselves to Kadyrov's army, being trained at the Special Forces centre in Grozny, to then be sent to the front



    What is Kadyrov's true angle here, I wonder? Laughing

    This school is also used to train National Guard and PMC's. Not sure about the Army.
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    Post  Dima Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:34 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Russians With Attitude
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    If I were Ukrainian I'd be kinda pissed that Westerners attribute every single Ukrainian success to either the (imaginary) total incompetence of the Russian army (if they're pro-UKR) or to (imaginary) direct American intervention (if they're pro-RU), but never to Ukrainian skills

    Western anti-Slav bias so strong that they can't accept that the AFU is the 2nd strongest army in Europe & juiced up on eight years of combat + NATO support

    Literally all Russian news agencies are reporting the attack and showing the videos with the helicopters https://twitter.com/ximicecinica/s
    A well planned attack by the US/NATO guys leading the operations in Ukraine using Ukrainian pilots after carefully mapping the AD bubbles in the area through their assets flying around Ukraine and providing a well plotted route.

    If we want to talk about balls, it was the day 1 insersion at Hostomel, flying right into harms way when every single asset was keeping an eye on Russian movements. Also, the airdrop at Mykolaiv.

    The Ukrainians was lucky to complete the mission successfully due to various factors, mainly
    - low use of Russian radar/warning assets actively. Russians are likely using it bare minimum due to their fear of NATO snoopers all around and preserving all their electronic and airforce assets for the main and direct confrontation which Russia is anticipating.
    And ofcourse, there was the time tested carelessnes on part of the Russian side as well.


    Yesterday's mission to Mariupol to pull out high valued assets likely was also carefully planned. It was mentioned 4 Mi-8 + 1 Mi-24 was involved. But reportedly only 2 was shot down. I hope the rest didn't succeed in its mission and had turned back. If they succeeded in pulling out the NATO assets from right inside an active combat zone surrounded by the Russian forces, its more damaging than this attack on oil storage.


    BTW, the RWApodcast handle has always sounded like someone who posts in here.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:38 pm

    Enough with the down playing of this

    First the ukropians hit and sunk a fucking landing ship

    Then they destroy our fuel depot

    "OH but it was civilian"

    I don't give a ****! TheY hit us!!!! This is embarassing for Russia! Because of gays in the Kremlin!

    We should be leveling the fucking Ukrainians not talking to them in Istanbul!

    OUT WITH Putin and the rest of the clowns in Kremlin, We need hardliners , these clowns have embarrassed us on the world stage

    "We are disappointed in you"

    WTF THEY HIT US ! HIT EM BACK

    Smoothie, raevsky, and all the stupid covering up this embarassing shit

    Bunch of clowns all over the place juggling on a cycle

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