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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
par far- Posts : 3488
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A false chemical attack is coming.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
Airbornewolf Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:25 pm
[quote="par far"]
Haha no worries man, better double than missed out on content right?.
Looks like an osiris t5000 indeed.
Airbornewolf wrote:par far wrote:"Chechen special forces, together with units of the RF Armed Forces, began to storm the positions of Ukrainian Nazi formations directly on the territory of the Azovstal enterprise."
https://t.me/intelslava/24208
Sorry Airbornewolf.
Any guesses to the sniper rifles being used?
Maybe Orsis T5000?
Haha no worries man, better double than missed out on content right?.
Looks like an osiris t5000 indeed.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
GunshipDemocracy Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:38 pm
One question, OK Russians win the war. Then what? Nazis stick to a scorched-earth policy then what? who's going to rebuild that? what money? West unlikely return stolen funds. Will Russia switch to communism to restart industrialization 2.0? Asian reconstruction bank might help?
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Kyiv says that a peace agreement is almost ready and that a meeting with Zelensky Putin will be held soon 
I do not believe that such a meeting Putin Zelensky. They will meet in Turkey.
I do not believe that such a meeting Putin Zelensky. They will meet in Turkey.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
flamming_python Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:44 pm
ATLASCUB wrote:Two extremes play against each other in a bad faith loop here all the time.
Every single individual here has their own picture of what success is or means for this operation.... even the biggest of dimwits who are simply drones following thought leaders (majority here).
Successful regime change is mine. Anything short of that is kicking the can, and potential problems (which will appear and manifest themselves) down the road. Short of that, flipping the Kiev regime with political forces after a successful land grab of most of Eastern, South, and Central Ukraine, de facto dissolving the Ukranian state as we know it, with pro-Russian political forces taking control of what's left of "neutral" "Ukraine" but I'm not holding out on that one... Russia has failed at every turn in doing this. Even with a degradation of their power, the Kiev dogs show firm command of the political levers of power, and when threatened in this arena, maneuver and take obstacles out successfully, even if brutally. The operation is not done so even the improbable still has a percentage chance of happing, however low.
The Russian leadership failed to take into account that the Ukrainian elites, and there is an absolute dictatorship there with any dissenters or suspected traitors going missing - will sacrifice its entire people in the name of 'victory', to hand a defeat to Russia.
And this regime has absolute control of all info-war, propaganda, narratives, has the best actors and showmen, always knows what to say, how to phrase an argument, has all the politologists, and everyone else - to convince the population of whatever is needed
But fundamentally it's their right. You can't liberate a country by invading it. Putin was insane to try, and the result is we will have human wave attacks with suicide belts at this rate.
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Arrow wrote:Kyiv says that a peace agreement is almost ready and that a meeting with Zelensky Putin will be held soon
I do not believe that such a meeting Putin Zelensky.
It takes two to tango.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
Airbornewolf Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:51 pm
An screenshot i taken from an low-quality vid around on Telegram.
Ukrainian soldier of an truck is together with an medical MT-LB the last ones left after the Russian airforce encounters them.
The rest of the convoy seems to be burning.
The Russian troops might be pulled to the East, But Ukro troops daring to move out are hunted down by airpower.
Ukrainian soldier of an truck is together with an medical MT-LB the last ones left after the Russian airforce encounters them.
The rest of the convoy seems to be burning.
The Russian troops might be pulled to the East, But Ukro troops daring to move out are hunted down by airpower.
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flamming_python wrote:
The Russian leadership failed to take into account that the Ukrainian elites, and there is an absolute dictatorship there with any dissenters or suspected traitors going missing - will sacrifice its entire people in the name of 'victory', to hand a defeat to Russia.
And this regime has absolute control of all info-war, propaganda, narratives, has the best actors and showmen, always knows what to say, how to phrase an argument, has all the politologists, and everyone else - to convince the population of whatever is needed
But fundamentally it's their right. You can't liberate a country by invading it. Putin was insane to try, and the result is we will have human wave attacks with suicide belts at this rate.
You are starting a sequence as a wise man, ending like a madman.
Must admit it is an achievement ...
If you consider the first part of your story right, why don't you see the logic behind it?
Ukropistan left alone, was becoming a fukin ISIS.
Sure you can't liberate someone who has Stockholm syndrome, but you can chop off the head of a hostile regime when you can.
And from that perspective, everybody gives a shit about the fate of zombies.
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Airbornewolf wrote:Force Z Tank shelling Nazi's in Mariupol to Hell.
Its so sad to see those Nazi scum take refuge in someones house and have it destroyed as a result.
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littlerabbit Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:17 pm
Sujoy wrote:India's biggest enemies have always been Anglo-Saxons. Unfortunately, not too many Indians realize this.
Before British came, India's bdp was 17% of the world's bdp.
When they finished with you, India's bdp was 1% of total world's bdp.
Figure it out by yourself.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
flamming_python Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:19 pm
ALAMO wrote:flamming_python wrote:
The Russian leadership failed to take into account that the Ukrainian elites, and there is an absolute dictatorship there with any dissenters or suspected traitors going missing - will sacrifice its entire people in the name of 'victory', to hand a defeat to Russia.
And this regime has absolute control of all info-war, propaganda, narratives, has the best actors and showmen, always knows what to say, how to phrase an argument, has all the politologists, and everyone else - to convince the population of whatever is needed
But fundamentally it's their right. You can't liberate a country by invading it. Putin was insane to try, and the result is we will have human wave attacks with suicide belts at this rate.
You are starting a sequence as a wise man, ending like a madman.
Must admit it is an achievement ...
If you consider the first part of your story right, why don't you see the logic behind it?
Ukropistan left alone, was becoming a fukin ISIS.
Sure you can't liberate someone who has Stockholm syndrome, but you can chop off the head of a hostile regime when you can.
And from that perspective, everybody gives a shit about the fate of zombies.
All I'm saying is that Putin decided to play right into their narrative. He was boxed into a corner maybe by some imminent Ukrainian invasion of the Donbass, maybe by NATO entering, maybe by something else. Or maybe he just decided to strike a blow against the West through the Ukraine, turning the tables, instead of the West using the Ukraine against Russia.
Who knows. Either way it's ultimately the result of his politics and policies, that he allowed the situation to develop to this stage.
He should have solved it when Trump was around and it was possible.
Otherwise what.
Summer 2021 the Biden-Putin teleconferences, when he offers Russia to detach from China and get the Ukraine problem resolved in return
November 2021 the Ukrainian leadership and the US sign some important document on NATO, the 17th I think it was. Clearly this turned out to be a critical document
December 2021 Ryabkov's ultimatum
January 2022 The Ukraine and Moldova blockade Pridnestrovie
February 2022 The operation begins
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Airbornewolf Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:32 pm
flamming_python wrote:
He should have solved it when Trump was around and it was possible.
Never trust an American official or American officer.
They give you an hand, smile in your face. and call you an ally.
But its all an facade.
The moment you get in their way, or the deal becomes inconvenient to them they turn their weapons against you.
Their words are not worth the paper it is written on.
Trump..or Biden for that matter are not even in control of the U.S government.
The deep state is, together with the MIC. And all they feed on is keeping that constant cycle of War going.
There never where deals to be made...
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Excuse me for seeming cynical however has anyone else noticed the large number of Ukrainian refugees compared to the small area of combat... looks like someone taking advantage of a free subsidized ticket into the West 
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Airbornewolf Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:42 pm
franco wrote:Excuse me for seeming cynical however has anyone else noticed the large number of Ukrainian refugees compared to the small area of combat... looks like someone taking advantage of a free subsidized ticket into the West
Of course. and it is not cynical.
Its because the EU countries promises them like the entire package.
Free house, free welfare, free daily allowance ...meanwhile our own people need to take stamps to the foodbank and houses are unavailable to them.
But sure..."poor, poor refugee"
Maybe should not have supported the Nazi's against the DPR/LPR i guess?.
So the Nazi Parasites are now with us here....
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miketheterrible wrote:You saying they aren't?
Remind FP and he are all-is-lost-ist, emmo-commie pals for which admitting any success of the current "bourgeois" Russian regime would mean the eternal condemnation of their marxist souls. They would of course prefer to see a true rout of Russia than having to endure the painful cognitive dissonance Putin has imposed on them for the last 20 years, but if they have to lie to themselves in the most embarrassing way to deny the obvious, they are ready to do it. Have never meet less rational people than "scientific socialists", they seem rather like zealots that got their religion wrong
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Airbornewolf Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:13 am
mnztr wrote:Airbornewolf wrote:Force Z Tank shelling Nazi's in Mariupol to Hell.
Its so sad to see those Nazi scum take refuge in someones house and have it destroyed as a result.
I agree, it really is sad.
There is an Russian documentary maker that is creating an project called "at the edge of the abyss".
It shows the people of Mariupol going trough all of this.
Ill try to get an hold of the entire thing when it'is released to show here.
People need to know and see what this does to people.
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Davyd Arakhamia a negotiator from Ukraine claims that Russia has agreed to the terms of the peace agreement. There is no consensus on the status of Crimea.
WTF what about Donbas etc.
WTF what about Donbas etc.
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SeigSoloyvov Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:19 am
Arrow wrote:Davyd Arakhamia a negotiator from Ukraine claims that Russia has agreed to the terms of the peace agreement. There is no consensus on the status of Crimea.
WTF what about Donbas etc.
Well we will see in a few days if that's true.
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flamming_python Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:31 am
That Ka-52 which was forced to land after taking damage during the battle of Gostomel is still there. Ukrainian troops took a photo with it.
https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/51066
Begs the question of why it wasn't taken away by Russian forces, or destroyed
Or does Russia want NATO to inspect it?
https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/51066
Begs the question of why it wasn't taken away by Russian forces, or destroyed
Or does Russia want NATO to inspect it?
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Airbornewolf Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:32 am
Arrow wrote:Davyd Arakhamia a negotiator from Ukraine claims that Russia has agreed to the terms of the peace agreement. There is no consensus on the status of Crimea.
WTF what about Donbas etc.
They can say alll they want.
The words of an Ukraine Nazi government has no value.
Millitary objectives stand, Denazify all of Ukraine until an authority up in the military's chain calls the operation off.
The pocket in the East is first in line to send fresh Nazi souls down to Hell.
They either fly an white flag, or get their primary life-signs exterminated.
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flamming_python Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:33 am
Arrow wrote:Davyd Arakhamia a negotiator from Ukraine claims that Russia has agreed to the terms of the peace agreement. There is no consensus on the status of Crimea.
WTF what about Donbas etc.
I suspect it's another demoralization effort against Russian patriots
The Ukraine has been doing that successfully. And Medinsky did them plenty of favours as well
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Zrada!
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Dr.Snufflebug wrote:This is bloody amazing:
And the many thousands of comments that just buy it outright.
I'm honestly surprised at how hyperbolic this infowar stuff is, and yet it appears to be working. Doesn't bode well.
It just proves that the Brits who read The Sun are fcking idiots... they can't tell a propaganda film when they see one? Single one of these oxygen thieves has any bearing on how this war will play out. Who cares what the dumb fck working classes of the pissant UK nation have to say or think?
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flamming_python Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:34 am
Big_Gazza wrote:Dr.Snufflebug wrote:This is bloody amazing:
And the many thousands of comments that just buy it outright.
I'm honestly surprised at how hyperbolic this infowar stuff is, and yet it appears to be working. Doesn't bode well.
It just proves that the Brits who read The Sun are fcking idiots... they can't tell a propaganda film when they see one? Single one of these oxygen thieves has any bearing on how this war will play out. Who cares what the dumb fck working classes of the pissant UK nation have to say or think?
I can believe it's real, but they're conscripts from the Donbass, not from Russia
And indeed they were deployed to Sumy, Chernigov, even in rear areas near Kiev.
Many of them want nothing to do with the rest of the Ukraine.
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Airbornewolf Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:37 am
flamming_python wrote:That Ka-52 which was forced to land after taking damage during the battle of Gostomel is still there. Ukrainian troops took a photo with it.
https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/51066
Begs the question of why it wasn't taken away by Russian forces, or destroyed
Or does Russia want NATO to inspect it?
I would have expected it too to be hit with an strike to be honest.
but...i guess the Russians really do not see this as an threat that it lies there?.
I dont know the design of th KA-52, can the pilots take out/destroy all the critical systems themselves in an short amount of time?.
if they can take the drives and computers, the thing is just an useless hulk.
There seemed to be a lot of disconnected wires in shots that where connected to systems somewhere.
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GunshipDemocracy Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:37 am
flamming_python wrote:
The Russian leadership failed to take into account that the Ukrainian elites,
Glad to know something Russian command didnt.
flamming_python wrote:
But fundamentally it's their right. You can't liberate a country by invading it. Putin was insane to try, and the result is we will have human wave attacks with suicide belts at this rate.
Seriously? so Putin was to wait till nukes blast in Russia or the new pandemic starts? oh Russians dying is ok, Ukrainians who wated to kill Russians is not ok? Interesting views
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