Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9

billybatts91 wrote:Anyone know how accurate this map is? If so, what is Russia's strategy here?

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Check the likes and retweets etc, holy shit.







Russians are seeing streetlights and asphalt for the first time, eating dogs, raping underage girls, stealing make-up, and admit to all of this in perfectly normal telephone conversations with friends and family, who casually reply "well, that's natural, we're Russians after all"...

Reminds me of the outrageously over the top "barbaric hordes from the east" propaganda from another well-known conflict.

kvs wrote:SmoothieX12 covers the conscript issue.   It is total BS.   Russia calls up reservists in April and October every f*cking year.
The number is not any sort of outlier compared to previous years.   Once again we have nothing but delusional propaganda
from the NATzO MSM.

JohninMK wrote:
Here is some of what Kyiv is asking for (there are 17 items on the list):

- reconnaissance and strike drones, including Switchblade "kamikaze drones";
- tactical radars;
– electronic warfare systems against drones;
- artillery systems;
- anti-aircraft missile systems;
- Javelin anti-tank missiles;
- anti-ship missiles;
– optical surveillance equipment;
- close air support aircraft.

The list also includes a request for assistance in treating wounded soldiers, repairing armored vehicles in neighboring countries, and aircraft to help transport weapons.

Moreover, the wish-list includes combat aircraft, in particular, Soviet/Russian-made Su-25 attack aircraft.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Russia will not attack the convoys remember they aren't trying to kill the Ukie army.

This means for most part Ukraine can move troops around without them being attacked

Completely wrong as you are on all accounts

The attacks on 79th brigade show what Russia will do to those convoys

Turn them into sprinkled body parts

Thats pretty cute of you to say considering all the BS you have poured out.

Ukraine has been freely moving its troops around this will not change anything has Putin gave specific orders and they will follow those orders.

Fanboys being fanboys

JohninMK wrote:Did wonder if they had allowed them to do the pickup. Seems there were more helicopters, wonder where the other 3 are?.

Russians With Attitude
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Two Ukrainian helicopters shot down near Mariupol. Apparently they were allowed to land and then shot down after taking off. ~14 dead, two survivors, one of them an Azov veteran, the other an intelligence officer.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1509613348580560920

More for the grinder

Levi
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The General Staff is transferring 15,000 troops from near Kyiv to the Dnieper to reinforce the eastern front. The special forces of the AFU and SSU were sent to Donbas yesterday.

So its ~50.000 in Donbass, 40.000 were moved to dnepr + another 15000.

Gleb Bazov
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#UKRAINE—#UA General Staff has started the transfer of 15k troops from the #Kiev theatre of the conflict to #Dnepropetrovsk—for the reinforcement of the Eastern Front. Special forces of the UA army and #SBU (Secret Police) were sent yesterday to #Donbass. Prelude to final battle.

JohninMK wrote:

par far wrote:

What people don't understand is that is a war on many fronts and that includes the economic front as well, it is all related.

As the main objector here I hope that it is not me that you are accusing of not understanding that wars have many fronts.

My position is that this operation in Ukraine and the events it spawned is a large enough subject to allow more than one thread on it and this forum is structured in a way that encourages it.

Indeed that is what happened, we have a military thread and an economic thread. If used properly it allows a viewer to just concentrate on one of the aspects and not get bogged down in posts that are not relevant to their search but may be relevant to the war as a whole. Both now and later they are totally different animals.

The situation is a bit worse than that in that interesting economic posts may be put in the military thread and then missed by someone searching the economic thread. The reverse is unlikely to happen as it is bad enough already, given the volume of posts, for those of us actually interested in the military to catch up if we miss say more than 12 hours.

Posting all in one thread is the lazy, easy way out but modern life is like that, social media especially, where what happened, sometimes only moments ago is gone, history and often near impossible to find later.

Whilst using a bit more effort to get a better, cleaner result that will stand the test of potentially being referred to over time is old fashioned so shunned.

If you want your posts to count please put them in the appropriate thread.

Backman wrote:Wargonzo says the helicopter was bound for a foreign military or had foreign military in it ? I dunno. Click on the tweet for the translation.

Edit: More info. It looks like the helicopter was used previously in Africa so there was foreign stuff found inside it.

On March 31, two Ukrainian Mi-8 helicopters were shot down (https://t.me/rybar/30116), which evacuated the top management of Azov and the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the Mariupol Azovstal. One Mi-8 was destroyed (https://t.me/nm_dnr/7347) from a captured Stinger MANPADS.

Journalists have already been allowed to the wreckage of one of the sides. There are also survivors. But the statement (https://t.me/SolovievLive/97808) about the elimination of the deputy commander of the Azov regiment and the actual head of the defense of Mariupol with the call sign Kalina has not yet been confirmed (https://t.me/panteri_panteri/17763).

Many of the bodies show signs of medical treatment prior to transport.

Found at the crash site:
a set of German armor plates SK 4 Keramikplatte Mehler;
The chevrons of Tanzania, Morocco and South Africa attached to the Ukrainian flag are evidence that the crew or the downed helicopter of the Ukrainian Air Force previously participated in UN peacekeeping missions.
One of the photos has a sleeve insignia of the 16th Army Aviation Brigade, which took part in 21 peacekeeping missions.

According to the testimony (https://t.me/ukr_leaks/2189) of one of the survivors, there were 4 helicopters in total in the group.
#Mariupol #Russia #Ukraine

https://twitter.com/wargonzoo/status/1509562631635488770?s=20&t=fdCt2amo1IbVZ8MKKqG2kA

ucmvulcan wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:

Now what would be funny if this was another ploy by Russia, make out Donbass is next target and easing of Kiev attacks, knowing Ukraine will send forces to Donbass, then once there Russia resumes attacks in Kiev Or is it a ploy to then target convoys on the move even funnier. More dead ukrops would be nothing more demoralising for Donbass based Ukrainian forces if your reinforcements get plastered over road before they get there or they have to turn back towards Kiev. Russia seems to be playing this fairly well. If this phase two goes to plan and 60k Ukrainian forces give up and/or be killed I can't see how Ukraine can continue. There will be a large retreat that Ukraine and western media can't hide and it won't matter how hard they try to spin it, it will be seen as a defeat in the donbass.

That's what you think.  I think the war in Ukraine is going quite badly for NATO's proxies.  My clue? Will Smith smacking Chris Rock at the Oscars was front page news.  When the war is going badly for our proxies the celebs take the front page.   Oh and "Putin's Price Increase" aka the inflation that is soon to ravage America's poor is there as well.  Bidet continues to make a toilet of a once decent nation.

Lurk83 wrote:@spriter998800 tweeting published Ukrainian drone footage seemingly showing that Russian troops have left Gostomel airport.  Seems weird to give it up when they fought so hard and room so many losses to take it. If I was in the vdv I’d be pisssd

billybatts91 wrote:

Lurk83 wrote:@spriter998800 tweeting published Ukrainian drone footage seemingly showing that Russian troops have left Gostomel airport.  Seems weird to give it up when they fought so hard and room so many losses to take it. If I was in the vdv I’d be pisssd

This is what I don't understand, what's with the retreating as of late? I don't think there's a good reason for it and anyone saying otherwise is full of it.

ucmvulcan wrote:
BTW, I read in the Washington Post and Angriff and saw a report on MSNGoebbels that 130,000 are being called up in Russia.  Are these raw conscripts as Putin throws in the last of his manpower or are these, as I strongly suspect, reservists being activated to carry out occupation duties and protect supply lines? Chuck Todd and Rachel Madcow were too busy sing the Horst Wessel Lied to be bothered with accuracy.