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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:08 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    ucmvulcan wrote:Any truth to a Ukrainian counter offensive near Nikolayevsk or is that just more Wikipedia and western propaganda trash?

    False has of this moment.

    I thought so, but just wanted to make sure
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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:09 pm

    People in an village in the Kherson region where stuffed full with explosives and guns by Kiev to fight the russians.
    People hands them over voluntarily to the Russians.
    ..And there was also an cash reward to turn in weapons...
    Does not change the fact they hand them over without question.

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:17 pm

    Hole wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #8 - Page 2 Scree184
    Huuuuuuge demo in Odessa

    There was a vid as well in Odessa where a woman was recording a school being barricaded with sandbags and commenting that it will be bombed, and then the authorities will blame Russia for bombing schools

    A couple of Ukrainian servicemen where trying to harass a young man on the streets for not reporting for mobilization, and in the end they had to publically apologize

    I don't think Odessa will bat an eyelid if the Russians show up

    In 2014 it was the city that had the anti-Maidan rallies the longest, bar Donetsk and Lugansk, only stopping when its activitists were massacred in the trade house.

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    Post  VARGR198 Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:37 pm

    Airbornewolf wrote:People in an village in the Kherson region where stuffed full with explosives and guns by Kiev to fight the russians.
    People hands them over voluntarily to the Russians.
    ..And there was also an cash reward to turn in weapons...
    Does not change the fact they hand them over without question.


    Looks like the Nationalists were preparing for guerilla warfare with how those were hidden.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:39 pm

    VARGR198 wrote:
    Airbornewolf wrote:People in an village in the Kherson region where stuffed full with explosives and guns by Kiev to fight the russians.
    People hands them over voluntarily to the Russians.
    ..And there was also an cash reward to turn in weapons...
    Does not change the fact they hand them over without question.


    Looks like the Nationalists were preparing for guerilla warfare with how those were hidden.

    Correct, straight from NATO's Operation Gladio handbook.
    Be damned how many innocents die, If Kiev/NATO can not have it. Nobody will.

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:58 pm

    Airbornewolf wrote:People in an village in the Kherson region where stuffed full with explosives and guns by Kiev to fight the russians.
    People hands them over voluntarily to the Russians.
    ..And there was also an cash reward to turn in weapons...
    Does not change the fact they hand them over without question.


    Like a 2 week old vid

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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:02 pm

    TOS-1A compilation, loading, en route and firing.


    Battle for Mariupol, Chechens getting people out of harms way from Azov.


    Russian drone operations for artillery strike:


    Russians advancing towards Kiev.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:04 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Airbornewolf wrote:People in an village in the Kherson region where stuffed full with explosives and guns by Kiev to fight the russians.
    People hands them over voluntarily to the Russians.
    ..And there was also an cash reward to turn in weapons...
    Does not change the fact they hand them over without question.

    Like a 2 week old vid

    That does not matter, does not change the events.
    Also, i can not upload everything i have to Odysee at once as i am limited to the crypto i can spend on the vids. So i have to choose what i put up.
    soooooo...., take it or leave it Wink?

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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:21 pm

    MOSCOW, March 25. /TASS/.

    The armed forces of the Russian Federation blockaded Kyiv, Kharkov, Chernihiv, Sumy and Nikolaev, Kherson and most of the Zaporozhye regions are under full control. Colonel General Sergei Rudskoy, First Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, told reporters about this on Friday.

    "Offensive actions of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are carried out in various directions. As a result, Kyiv, Kharkov, Chernigov, Sumy and Nikolaev are blocked by Russian troops. Kherson and most of the Zaporozhye regions are under full control," Rudskoy said. According to the Colonel-General, the RF Armed Forces inflict such damage on military infrastructure facilities, equipment, personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) on the territory of the blockaded cities in order to tie up the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and prevent them from strengthening their grouping in the Donbass until the complete liberation of the Russian army of the territories of the DPR and LPR.

    Options for conducting a special operation

    Russia considered two options for conducting a special operation: within the borders of the DPR and LPR or throughout Ukraine. In the first case, the Ukrainian authorities would constantly fuel their military group, Rudskoy said.
    "At the same time, two options were possible. The first one was to confine ourselves to the territory of the DPR and LPR within the administrative borders of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, which is enshrined in the constitutions of the republics. But then we would be faced with the constant replenishment by the Ukrainian authorities of the group involved in the so-called operation of the united strength," he said.
    According to the general, therefore, the second option was chosen, which provides for actions throughout the territory of Ukraine with the implementation of measures for its demilitarization and denazification.

    Dominance in the air

    During the first two days of a special military operation, the Russian army won air supremacy in Ukraine, Rudskoy said.
    According to him, the special military operation is being carried out by the General Staff in strict accordance with the approved plan.
    "The tasks are being carried out taking into account minimizing losses among personnel and minimizing damage to the civilian population. With the start of a special military operation, air supremacy was won within the first two days," Rudskoy said.

    Air Force of Ukraine

    The Ukrainian air force, air defense systems practically ceased to exist, the naval forces completely ceased to exist, Rudskoy said.
    "At present, the Ukrainian air force and air defense system have been almost completely destroyed. The country's naval forces have ceased to exist," he said. According to the colonel-general, the demilitarization of Ukraine is achieved by delivering precision strikes against military infrastructure facilities, locations of formations and military units, airfields, command posts, arsenals and depots of weapons and military equipment, as well as by the actions of troops to defeat opposing enemy groups.

    Liberation of Donbass

    Russia initially did not plan to storm the blocked Ukrainian cities, now the main task is the complete liberation of Donbass, the colonel general said.
    "Initially, we did not plan to storm them in order to prevent destruction and minimize losses among personnel and civilians. And although we do not exclude such a possibility, however, as individual groupings complete the assigned tasks, and they are solved successfully, our forces and means will concentrate on the main thing - the complete liberation of Donbass," Rudskoy said. If the special operation was carried out only within the LPR and DPR, then the Ukrainian authorities would constantly feed their military group. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation cause damage to the facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the blocked territories so that they cannot strengthen the grouping in the Donbas until it is completely liberated. The RF Armed Forces did not plan to storm the blockaded Ukrainian cities, but such a possibility is not ruled out. 276 settlements that were previously in the zone of operation of the Ukrainian army passed under the control of the people's militia of the DPR and LPR.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:31 pm

    TASS

    During the operation in Ukraine, 1,351 servicemen were killed.
    Russian Armed Forces lost 1,351 servicemen killed and 3,825 injured during the operation in Ukraine - Russian Defense Ministry.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14187031

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:32 pm

    🇷🇺🇺🇦❗As of March 25, 2022, 1,351 servicemen were killed, 3,825 were injured" - Ministry of Defense

    Official KIA , well slightly higher than my estimate, but close and lower than expected

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    Post  walle83 Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:32 pm

    Autodestruct wrote:
    walle83 wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Facts is that Russia forces have fucked up, and shown weakness and incomptense that make western leaders shake thier heads.

    You should stop drinking ukrainian propaganda... try water it's very good for your body.



    How is that Ukrainian propaganda? Does it seem to be going well for the Russians? They have stalled in thier progress and with a minimum of 7-10.000 kia just 4 weeks in its nothing but a disaster.

    That's a fantasy, dude.  Again, what is known is that the Ukrainians have a roughly 2:1 advantage in manpower.  And they are relatively well (NATO) trained troops, and they are equipped with Western weapons, body armor, and such.  They are also a well-informed military force (something Saddam's troops definitely were not!) because they are fed satellite info from the West and they have/had a large stock of UAV recon (not just the Bayraktars but also small quadcopters and such).

    And yet after four weeks of fighting they haven't managed so much as even one sustained counteroffensive in the war.  The Russians are actually doing quite well.  Sure, I think the Russians believed the Ukrainian government would fold and flee at first - which didn't happen.  That miscalculation has caused them trouble in that the large force near Kyiv is completely useless right now because the decisive battles that need to be won are in the east.

    But on a tactical level the Russians are doing quite well.  If the Ukrainians had brutalized them as much as you claim then they would be the ones on the advance.  They're not.  The best the Ukrainian military has managed is to implement a very good defense in depth.  Indeed that is the only thing they can do.  You have to have a lot of depth and a (well-trained and well-informed) manpower advantage to use this tactic.  They are slowly losing both of these assets.  The Ukrainians can fight for another month for sure.  After that, their government will have to make a tough decision.  Even though they have shown they don't want to.

    If this is Russia doing well we cant be living on the same planet.
    As always when Russia attacks they will only succeed with overwelming numbers.
    Yes Russia could "win" in a month, it could also take another year before they controll the whole country.
    The only thing you can say for sure is that this war has not gone accourding to Putins plans. Large numbers of civilans and soldiers will continue to die on both sides and that is all on Putin and Russia.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:33 pm

    🇷🇺🇺🇦❗As of March 25, 2022, 1,351 servicemen were killed, 3,825 were injured" - Ministry of Defense

    Official KIA , well slightly higher than my estimate, but close and lower than expected

    🇷🇺🇺🇦❗Over the month, the losses of Ukrainian troops amounted to about 30 thousand people, including more than 14 thousand irretrievable and about 16 thousand sanitary.

    The RF Armed Forces defeated 16 main military airfields from which Ukrainian aviation carried out combat sorties, destroyed 39 arsenals, where up to 70% of all stocks of Ukrainian military equipment were stored.

    Of the 2,416 tanks and other combat armored vehicles that were in service with the Ukrainian army as of February 24, 1,587 were destroyed.

    Out of 152 military aircraft, 112 remained, out of 149 helicopters - 75, out of 36 Bayraktar TB2 drones, 35 were destroyed.

    Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation


    Total domination by 🇷🇺

    This is the way to carry out successful operation


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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:33 pm

    MOSCOW, March 25. /TASS/.

    During the month of hostilities, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to about 30 thousand people, including more than 14 thousand - irretrievable. This was stated on Friday by Colonel-General Sergei Rudskoy, First Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

    "During the month of hostilities, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to about 30 thousand people, including more than 14 thousand - irretrievable and about 16 thousand - sanitary," he said. The supply of Ukrainian troops with missiles and ammunition, fuel and food has been almost completely stopped.

    According to Rudsky, the RF Armed Forces have completed the main tasks of the first stage of the operation in Ukraine, and the combat potential of the Ukrainian troops has been significantly reduced.
    "In general, the main tasks of the first stage of the operation have been completed. The combat potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been significantly reduced, which allows, I emphasize once again, to focus the main efforts on achieving the main goal - the liberation of Donbass," Rudskoy said.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:34 pm

    Yes this is a successful operation, the hardest part was done

    With 1351 KIA it is a success of epic levels more successful than Iraq and Afghanistan for sure

    Ukrainian KIA are insane

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    Post  mnrck Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:35 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:TASS

    During the operation in Ukraine, 1,351 servicemen were killed.
    Russian Armed Forces lost 1,351 servicemen killed and 3,825 injured during the operation in Ukraine - Russian Defense Ministry.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14187031

    Losses
    Rudskoy reported that Russia has suffered 1,351 military personnel killed and 3,825 injured since the operation in Ukraine began on 24 February.
    Ukraine's armed forces have suffered losses amounting to 30,000 people, including 14,000 killed and 16,000 injured, according to the Main Operations Directorate chief. These losses have affected all 24 groupings of the ground units that existed before the operation began, Rudskoy said.
    The Ukrainian military no longer has organized reserve forces, and losses are now being compensated by territorial defence troops who do not have the necessary training, which increases the risk of higher casualties, the officer said.
    Rudskoy recalled that Ukraine's armed forces and National Guard formations consisted of 260,200 servicemen.

    Sputniknews.
    https://sputniknews.com/20220325/russian-troops-have-blocked-kiev-kharkov-control-most-of-zaporozhye-region-general-staff-says-1094187894.html

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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:36 pm

    walle83 wrote:
    Autodestruct wrote:
    walle83 wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Facts is that Russia forces have fucked up, and shown weakness and incomptense that make western leaders shake thier heads.

    You should stop drinking ukrainian propaganda... try water it's very good for your body.



    How is that Ukrainian propaganda? Does it seem to be going well for the Russians? They have stalled in thier progress and with a minimum of 7-10.000 kia just 4 weeks in its nothing but a disaster.

    That's a fantasy, dude.  Again, what is known is that the Ukrainians have a roughly 2:1 advantage in manpower.  And they are relatively well (NATO) trained troops, and they are equipped with Western weapons, body armor, and such.  They are also a well-informed military force (something Saddam's troops definitely were not!) because they are fed satellite info from the West and they have/had a large stock of UAV recon (not just the Bayraktars but also small quadcopters and such).

    And yet after four weeks of fighting they haven't managed so much as even one sustained counteroffensive in the war.  The Russians are actually doing quite well.  Sure, I think the Russians believed the Ukrainian government would fold and flee at first - which didn't happen.  That miscalculation has caused them trouble in that the large force near Kyiv is completely useless right now because the decisive battles that need to be won are in the east.

    But on a tactical level the Russians are doing quite well.  If the Ukrainians had brutalized them as much as you claim then they would be the ones on the advance.  They're not.  The best the Ukrainian military has managed is to implement a very good defense in depth.  Indeed that is the only thing they can do.  You have to have a lot of depth and a (well-trained and well-informed) manpower advantage to use this tactic.  They are slowly losing both of these assets.  The Ukrainians can fight for another month for sure.  After that, their government will have to make a tough decision.  Even though they have shown they don't want to.

    If this is Russia doing well we cant be living on the same planet.
    As always when Russia attacks they will only succeed with overwelming numbers.
    Yes Russia could "win" in a month, it could also take another year before they controll the whole country.
    The only thing you can say for sure is that this war has not gone accourding to Putins plans. Large numbers of civilans and soldiers will continue to die on both sides and that is all on Putin and Russia.

    You need to be found and denazified ! Brainwashed idiot..

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:38 pm

    The war is a success, for sure NATO could not have carried out such a success

    With small losses, and minimal collateral damage

    Russia rewrites history of war

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    Post  Autodestruct Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:46 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:MOSCOW, March 25. /TASS/.

    "Offensive actions of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are carried out in various directions. As a result, Kyiv, Kharkov, Chernigov, Sumy and Nikolaev are blocked by Russian troops. Kherson and most of the Zaporozhye regions are under full control," Rudskoy said. According to the Colonel-General, the RF Armed Forces inflict such damage on military infrastructure facilities, equipment, personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) on the territory of the blockaded cities in order to tie up the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and prevent them from strengthening their grouping in the Donbass until the complete liberation of the Russian army of the territories of the DPR and LPR.


    What exactly does "blocked" mean in this context? Kharkiv, Nikolaev, and Kyiv are most definitely not surrounded. On the other hand, Chernihiv and Sumy are. It seems like a very loose terminology. Any Russian military vets mind explaining?
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    Post  Serberus Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:47 pm

    The west including their forum trolls here  are witnessing Banderistan being slowly dismantled, denazified and disarmed despite years of providing them with training, arms and intelligence, so you cant blame them really ,  their impotence to do anything about is causing them delusions of grandeur, to scream out ridiculous things like how Putins plan isnt working, how Russians logistics are failing, running out of fuel and missiles, how close Russia is to losing the war, yet on the ground the exact opposite is occurring. Just enjoy their salty tears and ignore them


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    Post  Regular Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:48 pm

    Nazi this and nazi that, I think this term is losing power because both sides are using it so often. IMHO, it would be best to save N word for who are actual nazis. Aidar, Azov and others.

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    Post  Serberus Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:51 pm

    Autodestruct wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:MOSCOW, March 25. /TASS/.

    "Offensive actions of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are carried out in various directions. As a result, Kyiv, Kharkov, Chernigov, Sumy and Nikolaev are blocked by Russian troops. Kherson and most of the Zaporozhye regions are under full control," Rudskoy said. According to the Colonel-General, the RF Armed Forces inflict such damage on military infrastructure facilities, equipment, personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) on the territory of the blockaded cities in order to tie up the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and prevent them from strengthening their grouping in the Donbass until the complete liberation of the Russian army of the territories of the DPR and LPR.


    What exactly does "blocked" mean in this context?  Kharkiv, Nikolaev, and Kyiv are most definitely not surrounded.  On the other hand, Chernihiv and Sumy are.  It seems like a very loose terminology.  Any Russian military vets mind explaining?


    It means they are required to be garrisoned and protected to prevent the Russian attack, which was never coming, so those troops cannot be deployed to reinforce Donbas which is currently the main objective , once that area is free and the eastern front falls, we shall see.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:52 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇷🇺🇺🇦❗As of March 25, 2022, 1,351 servicemen were killed, 3,825 were injured" - Ministry of Defense

    Official KIA , well slightly higher than my estimate, but close and lower than expected

    🇷🇺🇺🇦❗Over the month, the losses of Ukrainian troops amounted to about 30 thousand people, including more than 14 thousand irretrievable and about 16 thousand sanitary.

    The RF Armed Forces defeated 16 main military airfields from which Ukrainian aviation carried out combat sorties, destroyed 39 arsenals, where up to 70% of all stocks of Ukrainian military equipment were stored.

    Of the 2,416 tanks and other combat armored vehicles that were in service with the Ukrainian army as of February 24, 1,587 were destroyed.

    Out of 152 military aircraft, 112 remained, out of 149 helicopters - 75, out of 36 Bayraktar TB2 drones, 35 were destroyed.

    Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation


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    This is the way to carry out successful operation

    So roughly 5000 total Russian casualties? Yeah, that was my guesstimate.
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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:52 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Yes this is a successful operation, the hardest part was done

    With 1351 KIA it is a success of epic levels more successful than Iraq and Afghanistan for sure

    Ukrainian KIA are insane

    the Russian casualty rate is significantly lower what me and other former soldiers i talk to estimated what it would be by now.
    Of course, its still 1351 too much.(Auslander's kids included) not to mention those permanently injured and still in critical condition.
    And those that add to that number in the time to come.

    They should always be remembered and looked after after this is done.
    And let their sacrifice have meant something when this is all over.

    Ukrainian KIA's are everywhere. Telegram is littered with forests, towns and cities full of dead Ukro soldiers/nazi's.

    I will not upload that footage here or Odysee.
    i am not really interested into becoming the Liveleak of RDF.

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    Post  Autodestruct Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:03 pm

    walle83 wrote:
    Autodestruct wrote:
    walle83 wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Facts is that Russia forces have fucked up, and shown weakness and incomptense that make western leaders shake thier heads.

    You should stop drinking ukrainian propaganda... try water it's very good for your body.



    How is that Ukrainian propaganda? Does it seem to be going well for the Russians? They have stalled in thier progress and with a minimum of 7-10.000 kia just 4 weeks in its nothing but a disaster.

    That's a fantasy, dude.  Again, what is known is that the Ukrainians have a roughly 2:1 advantage in manpower.  And they are relatively well (NATO) trained troops, and they are equipped with Western weapons, body armor, and such.  They are also a well-informed military force (something Saddam's troops definitely were not!) because they are fed satellite info from the West and they have/had a large stock of UAV recon (not just the Bayraktars but also small quadcopters and such).

    And yet after four weeks of fighting they haven't managed so much as even one sustained counteroffensive in the war.  The Russians are actually doing quite well.  Sure, I think the Russians believed the Ukrainian government would fold and flee at first - which didn't happen.  That miscalculation has caused them trouble in that the large force near Kyiv is completely useless right now because the decisive battles that need to be won are in the east.

    But on a tactical level the Russians are doing quite well.  If the Ukrainians had brutalized them as much as you claim then they would be the ones on the advance.  They're not.  The best the Ukrainian military has managed is to implement a very good defense in depth.  Indeed that is the only thing they can do.  You have to have a lot of depth and a (well-trained and well-informed) manpower advantage to use this tactic.  They are slowly losing both of these assets.  The Ukrainians can fight for another month for sure.  After that, their government will have to make a tough decision.  Even though they have shown they don't want to.

    If this is Russia doing well we cant be living on the same planet.
    As always when Russia attacks they will only succeed with overwelming numbers.
    Yes Russia could "win" in a month, it could also take another year before they controll the whole country.
    The only thing you can say for sure is that this war has not gone accourding to Putins plans. Large numbers of civilans and soldiers will continue to die on both sides and that is all on Putin and Russia.

    The Russians don't have overwhelming numbers. They are outnumbered 2 to 1, and they have used airpower to make up for that disadvantage. This fact isn't difficult to figure out. Ukraine's army mustered 250,000 men at the beginning of the war. They had another 200,000 reservists - which they began to mobilize two days before the war broke out. The force Russia was observed to have mustered back in February was estimated to be between 170,000 to 190,000 men.

    I do agree that the war hasn't gone according to the Kremlin's plan. I do think they believed the Ukrainian government would fold and flee within a few days and then they could set up shop.

    The war isn't going to last a year. A key point I mentioned above is that the Ukrainian military is a well-informed force. That is a crucial requirement for modern warfare - and a capability Saddam Hussein's military never possessed. Even Saddam's elite never had the information assets to know in real time the forces they had and positions they held, and what the enemy had. Right now, the Ukrainian do. But once they run out of drones and their communications infrastructure is so smashed that Western intel can't be fed to them then they will be in the dark. And, although the die hards can still resist at that point, it isn't going to be very effective.

    "Large numbers of civilans and soldiers will continue to die on both sides and that is all on Putin and Russia."

    Please spare me of your self-righteousness. NATO could have signed a pact with Russia to bar Ukraine from the alliance. But NATO prefers that Ukrainians die over that option. And the Russians prefer that Ukrainians die rather than NATO military forces enter eastern Ukraine. And that is all. There aren't any saints here - especially not you!

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