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    Post  Kriva Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:24 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Kriva wrote:BREAKING: The US will send Soviet-era SA-8, SA-10, SA-12 and SA-14 mobile air defense systems to Ukraine.

    https://twitter.com/Intel_sky/status/1504076659456155659?s=20&t=m0LDTtL1q5360JV3MfDzew

    That Western border  Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 - Page 7 1f623

    The same western borders that was hit by 30 kalibr missiles killing 300 mercenaries?

    I wouldn't worry about it, more kalibr targets

    Lviv training base was obvious target which is now "gone" that means that assembly points and munition transfer points will be dispersed.
    You are assuming that RU intel will identify these in timely manner which isn't the case in Syria so I would argue that it is not going to be any easier in UA.

    Polish border is 500+km long so I wish you good luck monitoring it.
    How do you plan to monitor this border with air assests 24/7 ?

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:26 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:At this point I would vote for Ramzan Kadyrov to be president of Russia

    I am really happy with the help this man has given and what he has done in his capacity for Russia and for Donetsk

    Ahmad Sila!

    Ramzey  is surely much better for PR then any Russian govt official :d if better strategist then Putin we do not know though. At least not yet Very Happy




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    The ICJ approved the NATzO invasion of Serbia and the secession of Kosovo lubricated by NATzO sponsored militants.
    This kangaroo clown outfit has no moral and legal authority.


    ICJ for Russia? show me any citizen of US/UK for war crimes Very Happy and they really carried out real genocide.


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    Post  Isos Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:26 pm

    Even without decoys NATO has no AD that can intercept ballistic missiles anyway.

    Only US patriot and THAAD but they aren't that much deployed nor that much effective.

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    Post  Hole Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:27 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:The idea of believing Putin when he says no occupation is laughable, they will occupy it but they won't admit to it until the war is over

    Whats he going to do send in the army once Ukraine goes anti-russian again and again and again and again.

    Or is he truly dumb enough to think he can invade the country, leave and that will work out fine for him.

    My guess is that a division or two will remain in country to provide technical assistance to the Ukrainians and for partnership with the Ukrainian army.  Not an occupation per say, but more the American model of a decent enough military force in country that mostly stays in its bases.

    Putin said no regime change or occupation of Ukraine. He never said how big this "Ukraine" will be or where it will be located. Thy should turn Lviv into a reservation for Nazis and build a wall around it.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:28 pm

    Kriva wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Kriva wrote:BREAKING: The US will send Soviet-era SA-8, SA-10, SA-12 and SA-14 mobile air defense systems to Ukraine.

    https://twitter.com/Intel_sky/status/1504076659456155659?s=20&t=m0LDTtL1q5360JV3MfDzew

    That Western border  Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 - Page 7 1f623

    The same western borders that was hit by 30 kalibr missiles killing 300 mercenaries?

    I wouldn't worry about it, more kalibr targets

    Lviv training base was obvious target which is now "gone" that means that assembly points and munition transfer points will be dispersed.
    You are assuming that RU intel will identify these in timely manner which isn't the case in Syria so I would argue that it is not going to be any easier in UA.

    Polish border is 500+km long so I wish you good luck monitoring it.
    How do you plan to monitor this border with air assests 24/7 ?


    You don't. What you do do is hit bridges, rail yards, road junctions and that way it can't get to deployment points.

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    Post  Regular Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:32 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:At this point I would vote for Ramzan Kadyrov to be president of Russia

    I am really happy with the help this man has given and what he has done in his capacity for Russia and for Donetsk

    Ahmad Sila!

    Ramzey  is surely much better for PR then any Russian govt official :d if better strategist then Putin we do not know though. At least not yet Very Happy

    I am old enough to remember his actions during First Chechen War and his words as well. People change, but he never answered for his crimes against Russian soldiers.
    No sane Russian would like this vassal overruling him. He is an attack dog, PR is PR, real men don't care about it.
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    Post  Hole Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:33 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 - Page 7 Fn-luc10
    From Putins speech

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    Post  Hole Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:34 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 - Page 7 Fn-cz510
    Maybe off-topic. Landing ships of the Pacific Fleet.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:37 pm


    "Destroyed and sunk" by Ukrainian propaganda, the patrol ship "Vasily Bykov" of project 22160 of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy entered Sevastopol today after completing tasks at sea.
    https://t.me/intelslava/22519

    lol1 lol1 lol1


    Looks like denazification started:


    Denazification continues, and very successfully - the militant, Bandera "Dementor", from the national battalion "Revenge", formed by the accomplices of the Ukrainian homosexual politician Oleg Lyashko, has been eliminated.
    https://t.me/intelslava/22496

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:39 pm

    Regular wrote:
    . He is an attack dog, PR is PR, real men don't care about it.

    But they should. PR is weapon of mass destruction on enemy.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:41 pm

    Hole wrote:

    This decoys aree released from the missile and look on radar like the real one. So instead of the one real missile you see 5 or 6 fake ones on the radar screen. You can´t "programm" your air defence to counter that. This decoys will always look like real missiles on your radar.

    And you suppose that a nation whose higher sophistication considering ballistic missiles was +/- 40 years ago would understand that?
    You are a man of faith bro! cheers Laughing

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    Post  Regular Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:44 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:

    But they should.  PR is weapon of mass destruction on enemy.

    It's good to fill the forums, but mass destruction of an enemy is done by artillery strikes. Imagine how many pieces of Ukrainian equipment are in the fields and no one is taking pictures. Russia doesn't care about that clearly.

    PR war is clearly one-sided thanks to western aligned media. Let them waste money and be shocked when Ukraine after all those victories capitulates all of sudden.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:45 pm

    Russia is fighting a real war.
    They care shit about war on twitter.

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    Post  LMFS Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:45 pm

    https://thesaker.is/what-happened-to-russias-gold-and-foreign-currency-reserves-will-there-be-a-default/

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:06 pm

    Are the claims of Ukie 95th Airmobile Brogade being wiped out correct?
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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:06 pm

    Kriva wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Kriva wrote:BREAKING: The US will send Soviet-era SA-8, SA-10, SA-12 and SA-14 mobile air defense systems to Ukraine.

    https://twitter.com/Intel_sky/status/1504076659456155659?s=20&t=m0LDTtL1q5360JV3MfDzew

    That Western border  Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 - Page 7 1f623

    The same western borders that was hit by 30 kalibr missiles killing 300 mercenaries?

    I wouldn't worry about it, more kalibr targets

    Lviv training base was obvious target which is now "gone" that means that assembly points and munition transfer points will be dispersed.
    You are assuming that RU intel will identify these in timely manner which isn't the case in Syria so I would argue that it is not going to be any easier in UA.

    Polish border is 500+km long so I wish you good luck monitoring it.
    How do you plan to monitor this border with air assests 24/7 ?


    Because those dont just drive through forests and heavily wooded areas....

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    Post  diabetus Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:08 pm

    Confirmed that Russian forces were hit at the Kherson base. There's a video now too.
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    Post  Airbornewolf Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:09 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:And guys, follow any Russian thread whether it be in Telegram, YouTube, just read comments in Iurri Podliaka

    You will see most Russia supports this operation


    Whaat?. Russians supporting their troops against the Nazi's?.
    I have not seen that anywhere.....

    lol1 If i had to save all the russian support video's and images on VK and Telegram. then i need another hard drive. lol1
    But yes, everyone here need to get Telegram and subscribe to some channels there for what goes around on there.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:09 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:The idea of believing Putin when he says no occupation is laughable, they will occupy it but they won't admit to it until the war is over

    Whats he going to do send in the army once Ukraine goes anti-russian again and again and again and again.

    Or is he truly dumb enough to think he can invade the country, leave and that will work out fine for him.

    USSR did not occupy eastern Europe yet it was socialist till end of USSR ....

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    Post  Dima Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:12 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Dima wrote:I haven't watched the Duran show, but I do have that fear of US/NATO getting involved.

    But, my fear is basically about not being able to hit back at the CONUS & UK, if an exchange starts, with conventional weapons.

    The MIC in CONUS should not be let to operate untouched, they need to be hit.

    Not just MIC in CONUS, but, all UK installations, mil and civilian industries that's the face of their "developed" status, those in France, joogle, twitter, fb, etc and the entire propaganda outlets that has called for killing Russians and their President need to be Kalibrated.

    That just means you are dumb.

    Russia is a nuclear power. Which means if the US and all of that attacks, Russia will strike back on their territory.

    If you think NATO will get involved directly, I got a bridge to sell you.
    If that's dumb, I don't know what to term people who simply can't think of a response/retaliation other than invoking "Russia is a nuclear power".

    Care to explain what the dumb fellows will be discussing on various forums after a nuclear exchange?

    As for NATO getting involved, that's a fear and a factor that Russia has considered in their calculus for this operation and what was reflected in President Putin's speech prior to start of Special Operations in Ukraine on 24th.

    I seriously doubt if you ever bothered read the speech other than what you found on social media. And if you really did, more likely that you didn't comprehend it. So I end this exchange here.


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    Post  AlfaT8 Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:13 pm

    diabetus wrote:Confirmed that Russian forces were hit at the Kherson base. There's a video now too.

    Go on...
    Post the video.

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    Post  rigoletto Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:13 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:The idea of believing Putin when he says no occupation is laughable, they will occupy it but they won't admit to it until the war is over

    Whats he going to do send in the army once Ukraine goes anti-russian again and again and again and again.

    Or is he truly dumb enough to think he can invade the country, leave and that will work out fine for him.

    The country is not formally occupied if the foreign military have the right to be in there. E.g. by invite or agreement.

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    Post  Dima Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:14 pm

    For those who are generally used to reading or going through official transcripts and missed it will comprehend the speech and those who would like to read it can read it full.

    I always prefer official English transcripts, which comes hours after the official Russian version, coz unlike the "real time" translated nonsense, the official version's core competence is accurate translation, which is very important.

    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67843
    I would also like to address the military personnel of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

    Comrade officers,

    Your fathers, grandfathers and great-grandfathers did not fight the Nazi occupiers and did not defend our common Motherland to allow today’s neo-Nazis to seize power in Ukraine. You swore the oath of allegiance to the Ukrainian people and not to the junta, the people’s adversary which is plundering Ukraine and humiliating the Ukrainian people.

    I urge you to refuse to carry out their criminal orders. I urge you to immediately lay down arms and go home. I will explain what this means: the military personnel of the Ukrainian army who do this will be able to freely leave the zone of hostilities and return to their families.

    I want to emphasise again that all responsibility for the possible bloodshed will lie fully and wholly with the ruling Ukrainian regime.

    I would now like to say something very important for those who may be tempted to interfere in these developments from the outside. No matter who tries to stand in our way or all the more so create threats for our country and our people, they must know that Russia will respond immediately, and the consequences will be such as you have never seen in your entire history. No matter how the events unfold, we are ready. All the necessary decisions in this regard have been taken. I hope that my words will be heard.

    I know, many people and the English speaking (the main criteria for being in RT) western idiots in RT never really cared to explain Presidents address or the "nuclear threat" in the speech. The result of this being the entire propaganda outlets around the world talked about Putin's nuclear threat.

    The key stuff to be noted are "respond immediately" and the "consequences". Two different stuff.

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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:15 pm

    Dima wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    Dima wrote:I haven't watched the Duran show, but I do have that fear of US/NATO getting involved.

    But, my fear is basically about not being able to hit back at the CONUS & UK, if an exchange starts, with conventional weapons.

    The MIC in CONUS should not be let to operate untouched, they need to be hit.

    Not just MIC in CONUS, but, all UK installations, mil and civilian industries that's the face of their "developed" status, those in France, joogle, twitter, fb, etc and the entire propaganda outlets that has called for killing Russians and their President need to be Kalibrated.

    That just means you are dumb.

    Russia is a nuclear power. Which means if the US and all of that attacks, Russia will strike back on their territory.

    If you think NATO will get involved directly, I got a bridge to sell you.
    If that's dumb, I don't know what to term people who simply can't think of a response/retaliation other than invoking "Russia is a nuclear power".

    Care to explain what the dumb fellows will be discussing on various forums after a nuclear exchange?

    As for NATO getting involved, that's a fear and a factor that Russia has considered in their calculus for this operation and what was reflected in President Putin's speech prior to start of Special Operations in Ukraine on 24th.

    I seriously doubt if you ever bothered read the speech other than what you found on social media. And if you really did, more likely that you didn't comprehend it. So I end this exchange here.



    It is you that seems to lack the common sense of nearly...anything regarding this. I know it was harsh but only dumb people would think that NATO would be suicidal to assist the poorest country in Europe.

    It would be best for you to sit back, and think over the entire situation. I guarantee I am a lot older than you are and been through situations like this in the past where threats were constantly made but ended nowhere.

    There hasn't been a nuclear exchange so I am unsure what your first point is. I have listened to his speeches and rightly so, one has to always be prepared. But you also need to understand that NATO is known for its bluster but when situation gets hot, they tend to stand back. Like I said, if they are not brave enough to send old MiG-29's to Ukraine via Poland, what makes you think they will get involved directly?
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    Post  diabetus Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:17 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    diabetus wrote:Confirmed that Russian forces were hit at the Kherson base. There's a video now too.

    Go on...
    Post the video.

    https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/44647

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