Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 flamming_python Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:43 pm
Arrow wrote:
Nobody will start World War III in defense of Ukraine.
Could there be a meeting with Putin -Zelensky?
Big_Gazza, Kriva and Yugo90 like this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 Arkanghelsk Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:43 pm
Hannibal Barca likes this post
Russia has too vast a geography to defend and protect with boots on ground so they are probably optimised for mechanised warfare.flamming_python wrote: Unfortunately neither the Russian military nor political command has shown any great skill or understanding of obvious things in this conflict so far.
They have proven that they are able to adapt and adjust quickly at the very least. But I think the barracks strike was a mistake and it will alienate Nikolayev's population.
GunshipDemocracy and Odin of Ossetia like this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 miketheterrible Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:50 pm
Sujoy wrote:Russia has too vast a geography to defend and protect with boots on ground so they are probably optimised for mechanised warfare.flamming_python wrote: Unfortunately neither the Russian military nor political command has shown any great skill or understanding of obvious things in this conflict so far.
They have proven that they are able to adapt and adjust quickly at the very least. But I think the barracks strike was a mistake and it will alienate Nikolayev's population.
However, this conflict brings to fore the critical importance of Infantry that Russia seems to be lacking. Infantry will need support of both artillery and armour but quality infantry will decide the result of close combat warfare.
Mir and Podlodka77 like this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 flamming_python Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:51 pm
Sujoy wrote:Russia has too vast a geography to defend and protect with boots on ground so they are probably optimised for mechanised warfare.flamming_python wrote: Unfortunately neither the Russian military nor political command has shown any great skill or understanding of obvious things in this conflict so far.
They have proven that they are able to adapt and adjust quickly at the very least. But I think the barracks strike was a mistake and it will alienate Nikolayev's population.
However, this conflict brings to fore the critical importance of Infantry that Russia seems to be lacking. Infantry will need support of both artillery and armour but quality infantry will decide the result of close combat warfare.
RTN likes this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 miketheterrible Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:52 pm
flamming_python wrote:Sujoy wrote:Russia has too vast a geography to defend and protect with boots on ground so they are probably optimised for mechanised warfare.flamming_python wrote: Unfortunately neither the Russian military nor political command has shown any great skill or understanding of obvious things in this conflict so far.
They have proven that they are able to adapt and adjust quickly at the very least. But I think the barracks strike was a mistake and it will alienate Nikolayev's population.
However, this conflict brings to fore the critical importance of Infantry that Russia seems to be lacking. Infantry will need support of both artillery and armour but quality infantry will decide the result of close combat warfare.
The failure is as much political and ideological as it is military
Military loses can be tolerated but the abysmal failure of the former two has made the war a lot more bloody than it needed to be. In fact if they were up to scratch, a war might have been avoided.
d_taddei2, magnumcromagnon, Big_Gazza and GunshipDemocracy like this post
RTN dislikes this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 Arkanghelsk Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:54 pm
magnumcromagnon, Big_Gazza, GunshipDemocracy, miketheterrible, Broski and Podlodka77 like this post
The Russians don't need sympathy from Ukraine's servicemen. They need them broken, their morale shaken so they won't commit to fighting Russia. Failing that, dead. Jesus Christ do you really want to lose this war?flamming_python wrote:
Above all it's necessary to refrain from any more 'punishing' strikes such as the one against the barracks of the regiment in Nikolayev. Yes those guys were annoying and conducted some artillery strikes, but it's quite horrifying to just level a barracks like that, whose commander was too dumb to deploy his troops to patrols and field positions before beginning combat actions.
Such 'demoralization' attacks are associated with the Nazis from WW2. It's going to horrify a lot of people and wipe out any chance of sympathy, especially since a certain proportion of these servicemen are local.
Unfortunately neither the Russian military nor political command has shown any great skill or understanding of obvious things in this conflict so far.
They have proven that they are able to adapt and adjust quickly at the very least. But I think the barracks strike was a mistake and it will alienate Nikolayev's population.
Werewolf, magnumcromagnon, Big_Gazza, zepia, Odin of Ossetia, miketheterrible, LMFS and like this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 Arkanghelsk Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:57 pm
magnumcromagnon, GunshipDemocracy and Yugo90 like this post
From the late Soviet era till date these rockets are NOT fire and forget. You have an operator sitting in a helo who has to constantly send co ordinates to these rockets.Mir wrote:This guided rocket dates from the late Soviet era >>
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 miketheterrible Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:02 pm
lyle6 wrote:The Russians don't need sympathy from Ukraine's servicemen. They need them broken, their morale shaken so they won't commit to fighting Russia. Failing that, dead. Jesus Christ do you really want to lose this war?flamming_python wrote:
Above all it's necessary to refrain from any more 'punishing' strikes such as the one against the barracks of the regiment in Nikolayev. Yes those guys were annoying and conducted some artillery strikes, but it's quite horrifying to just level a barracks like that, whose commander was too dumb to deploy his troops to patrols and field positions before beginning combat actions.
Such 'demoralization' attacks are associated with the Nazis from WW2. It's going to horrify a lot of people and wipe out any chance of sympathy, especially since a certain proportion of these servicemen are local.
Unfortunately neither the Russian military nor political command has shown any great skill or understanding of obvious things in this conflict so far.
They have proven that they are able to adapt and adjust quickly at the very least. But I think the barracks strike was a mistake and it will alienate Nikolayev's population.
Werewolf, magnumcromagnon, Big_Gazza, teh_beard, LMFS, Broski and Podlodka77 like this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 Arkanghelsk Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:03 pm
d_taddei2, magnumcromagnon, Hannibal Barca, Big_Gazza, kvs, zepia, GunshipDemocracy and like this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 flamming_python Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:08 pm
miketheterrible wrote:flamming_python wrote:Sujoy wrote:Russia has too vast a geography to defend and protect with boots on ground so they are probably optimised for mechanised warfare.flamming_python wrote: Unfortunately neither the Russian military nor political command has shown any great skill or understanding of obvious things in this conflict so far.
They have proven that they are able to adapt and adjust quickly at the very least. But I think the barracks strike was a mistake and it will alienate Nikolayev's population.
However, this conflict brings to fore the critical importance of Infantry that Russia seems to be lacking. Infantry will need support of both artillery and armour but quality infantry will decide the result of close combat warfare.
The failure is as much political and ideological as it is military
Military loses can be tolerated but the abysmal failure of the former two has made the war a lot more bloody than it needed to be. In fact if they were up to scratch, a war might have been avoided.
What failure? You keep speaking of failures but all I see is Ukrainian forces being decimated.
Odin of Ossetia dislikes this post
JohninMK wrote:Reported from the front lines at the John Hopkins University in the US
Mykola Vorobiov
@komitet2012
· 7hlast night
troops were thrown back on 60-70 km from the capital #Kyiv. Most of
!
GarryB, d_taddei2, magnumcromagnon, Big_Gazza, kvs, zepia, GunshipDemocracy and like this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7 Arkanghelsk Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:17 pm
d_taddei2, magnumcromagnon, Big_Gazza, BliTTzZ, miketheterrible, LMFS and Hole like this post
Yes, Sevmash will have its hands full. We will also see how much the construction of surface warships will be accelerated after this conflict. I think that special emphasis will be placed on the frigates of project 22350.
This depict Patriot missiles being transported to Slovakia, so i guess they are willing to transfer their only S-300PS battery to Ukraine i guess.
Most individuals talking about high Russian casualties do not take into account the fact that Russia is doing so to protect Ukranian citizens. This aside the number of casualties is normal.
Wait for the China-India war to breakout in the near future. Casualties will be in millions.
We will then realize how effective Russia was in keeping casualties to a bare minimum.
Like they're actually preparing to deploy this S-300PS system on the border with the Ukraine and try to use it to enforce a no-fly zone
They can add disgarded NATO systems to it too, and try to incrementally build-up a no-fly zone
At least for AFVs, the heavy losses among even modernized platforms against NATO's top shelf man portable anti-armor weapons comes as a bit of a shock.
What did Shariy's Party do?
They did condemn the Russian attack and they supply even western Ukrainians with medicine that is lacking now across the country (mostly insulin), help disabled people who can't leave their house, help with evacuations?
I followed their work for some time and they really involved in humanitarian help.
so forposts have some aiming pods to use dumb bombs?
I'm only affraid Russians will run out of kalibr and iskander missiles...I think Nazis are just asking for moree democracy
Even then the stock of weapons is enough for ww3
Time for a smile, this person needs to buy a lottery ticket Laughing Laughing Laughing
Unexpected arrival in Dergachi, Kharkiv region
What is it?
What a rucking fetard David Frum is... Laughing Laughing he tweets this unbelievable propaganda nonsense just hours before "democratic hero" Zelensky bans all opposition parties!!! Why are Murkan neocons so fcking retarded?
So, i'm curious how's the Slovakian S-300 deal going.. the German apparently deploy Patriot in Slovakia. This could be a sign that they agree to transfer their only S-300PS battery to Ukraine in exchange of Patriot.
From the late Soviet era till date these rockets are NOT fire and forget.
You have an operator sitting in a helo who has to constantly send co ordinates to these rockets.
Guided rockets refers to rockets like the Thales FZ275 LGR that is coupled with a MX-15D electro-optical system from L3 Wescam.
Another example is BAE's APKWS
Those decimated Ukrainian forces all have fathers, mothers, sisters, kids
Any such conflict should be kept as short as possible and with as few casualties as possible, not only for the Russian side but also for the Ukrainian side
The failure to convince the Ukrainian military that Russia is not there to harm them, or destroy the Ukraine as a state - is not only due to Ukrainian regime propaganda, but also our own political leadership's failures at explaining what we're there to do, and the failure of Russian ideology (which is basically Russian nationalism) to find much appeal in the Ukraine except in ethnic Russian areas.
I wonder how our "academic" upper class and media pundits will deal with the inevitable public cognitive dissonance after all this stuff has been revealed as obvious BS, despite all the censorship in place now
|
|
|
Home
Latest images
Register
Log in
lyle6