Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3

Can someone polite ask, the Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Iran closes his airspace for Western countries?

Arkanghelsk wrote:Operation Barbarossa 2 was stopped

This is Bagration 2 , well really Operation Uranus 2

Army group South finds itself surrounded in Donetsk

Friedrich Paulus (Zelensky) is trapped

Bagration 2 will commence soon

Paulus (zelensky) must sign the surrender of his forces

Anyway Red Army will bypass trapped nazi pockets and continue the offensive

I'll give you cred at least for bringing some humour to a dead serious course of events

In all actuality - Zelensky will sacrifice his own country and people for the sake of bogging Russia down into a war of occupation, in accordance with the wishes of his Western curators. So that Russia will find itself in revolution sooner or later. And this was always obvious.

Already in some villages, Russian forces; Rosgvardia it seems, have resorted to less 'polite' methods. Tear gas. While Russian infantry units advancing have fired into the air to disperse crowds of protestors. Only going to get worse I'm afraid.

What's the Grand Chessmaster got planned next? And how the hell do you liberate a country of anything by invading? Are you going to rid Afghanistan of Islamic extremism by invading?

Putin can at this stage move to form a new country, the Federal Ukrainian Republic as the rumour is going around. But will something formed by Russian force of arms have the support of the people?

The protestors will be dealt with. That's for sure.  The useful idiots for Kiev are being abandoned and so let them sacrifice themselves for a moron.

The new novorussia will get their own rosgvarrdi that will deal with them.

You can continue to cry for your hohol friends.

miketheterrible wrote:The protestors will be dealt with. That's for sure.  The useful idiots for Kiev are being abandoned and so let them sacrifice themselves for a moron.

The new novorussia will get their own rosgvarrdi that will deal with them.

You can continue to cry for your hohol friends.

In Kiev those nazi are killing civilians for no reason. Zelensky will quickly loose support of its people.

And there arrn't that many civilian turning into suicide iraqi like US and Zelensky wished.

Yes they go out and protest, launch few molotov coctails but nothing more.

In Kiev they had to free prisoners to have more pepple and ended with them shooting civilians.

Let's not talk about the propaganda campaign. It's a total failure with BS stories. No one believe them anything now. They lost total credit.

miketheterrible wrote:The protestors will be dealt with. That's for sure.  The useful idiots for Kiev are being abandoned and so let them sacrifice themselves for a moron.

The new novorussia will get their own rosgvarrdi that will deal with them.

You can continue to cry for your hohol friends.

This is nice and everything, but the core thing that any new state needs is legitimacy.

It can survive without outside legitimacy, but it can't survive without internal legitimacy, not least without a machine of repression from the outside.

This is what it can come down to

I'm thinking Putin has to capture the people he wants, and then withdraw back to the DNR/LNR, the states which actually have legitimacy.

Isos wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:The protestors will be dealt with. That's for sure.  The useful idiots for Kiev are being abandoned and so let them sacrifice themselves for a moron.

The new novorussia will get their own rosgvarrdi that will deal with them.

You can continue to cry for your hohol friends.

In Kiev those nazi are killing civilians for no reason. Zelensky will quickly loose support of its people.

And there arrn't that many civilian turning into suicide iraqi like US and Zelensky wished.

Yes they go out and protest, launch few molotov coctails but nothing more.

In Kiev they had to free prisoners to have more pepple and ended with them shooting civilians.

Let's not talk about the propaganda campaign. It's a total failure with BS stories. No one believe them anything now. They lost total credit.

The people may not believe all the propaganda BS, and they may feel alienated and betrayed by their own leadership, but they will mobilize to defend their country, against who they see as an invader.
I doubt the Ukrainian army has much good to say about Zelensky and the whole regime, yet they have been fighting.

flamming_python wrote:

Isos wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:The protestors will be dealt with. That's for sure.  The useful idiots for Kiev are being abandoned and so let them sacrifice themselves for a moron.

The new novorussia will get their own rosgvarrdi that will deal with them.

You can continue to cry for your hohol friends.

In Kiev those nazi are killing civilians for no reason. Zelensky will quickly loose support of its people.

And there arrn't that many civilian turning into suicide iraqi like US and Zelensky wished.

Yes they go out and protest, launch few molotov coctails but nothing more.

In Kiev they had to free prisoners to have more pepple and ended with them shooting civilians.

Let's not talk about the propaganda campaign. It's a total failure with BS stories. No one believe them anything now. They lost total credit.

The people may not believe all the propaganda BS, and they may feel alienated and betrayed by their own leadership, but they will mobilize to defend their country, against who they see as an invader.
I doubt the Ukrainian army has much good to say about Zelensky and the whole regime, yet they have been fighting.

Again they are not attacking russians but only protesting peacefully.

They are good people with whom Russia will be able to make a deal.

can russia stop treating them like they are reasonable people? https://tass.com/politics/1414163

Yeah so far making videos chanting, Berdyansk is not Russia

Quite the guerilla

Watch "Ukrainian Civilians Take On Russian Invaders With Words And Deeds" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/l8qzs5i57gw

Yes they are guerilla with words and deeds

Broski wrote:Definitely Kalibr, tbh I'm not sure why they're not being used more often, there must be at least a dozen perfectly good targets worthy of a cruise missile strike in Lviv.

edit: Iskander would've leveled the whole building and left a smoldering crater so I highly doubt it

I've been thinking the Russians may not ever bother with western Ukraine, but just cut it off. I mean, they could make that area independent[1] while dumping the whole Ukraine debt over them.

[1] expel them like Malaysia did with Singapore.

Yeah, handful of people protesting. Then they will feel stupid after the smoke clears.

They are europeans, not Scythians , nor taliban

Educated and elite people

Hahahaha

As I said, situation in brotherly Ukraine will be normalized

I regret to inform you,citizens of Kiev. That the show "2 Minutes of Hate" is cancelled.....forever.

JohninMK wrote:

Maximmmm wrote:Considering how focused everyone else is on Europe and its hysteria, the rest of the world looks quite interesting.
China: Basically pro-russian stance, some of the most aggressive rhetoric they've ever put out diplomatically.
India: Maintaining neutrality, if anything pissed off at Ukraine for fucking over the evacuation of Indian citizens (who knew there were that many there?).
Rest of asia: Only South Korea and Japan joining in, with SK still allowing for a bunch of business to happen.
South america: Pretty mum, some vocally for neutrality like Brazil.
Africa: Few colonized states speaking out, but relatively calm.
Middle-east: Either casual support of Russia or neutrality.
Bonus points: Serbia (bros you guys are great), Georgia (holy god you actually can find rational thinking there), Hungary (Orban doing his own thing as always).

That unshakable world alliance of freedom doesn't really look that impressive when you take all into account.

The test will be how many of them will actually stand up against the US at the UN this week, even by just abstaining.

You are not using your creativity.. one thing is lip service to the Americans and europe in UN, another thing is real actions . what do happen many times is that countries do things on the shadows or through third party nations ,including using alternative to Swift payment system ,that china and russia and india and japan have.. to do business without using US,UK or EU banks , so will not be tracked. The european union even spoke of creating an alternative to swift just for trading with iran and bypassing US sanctions.. and there is the option to if there is a need for it..

To use the barter system..
this is how india trade with venezuela ,to bypass US sanctions.  
Venezuela give oil ,and India give food or pharma products.  
i think Russia do it too with iran.. sell electricity to iran and iran give food.
in fact russia traded combat planes with malasya i think.. provided dozens of su-35
and they pay back with a mega huge shipment of cooking oil if remember well.

this is not an elegant solution ,but can do the job , if there is good will between the nations and fairness it can be done.. how you think north korea ,CUBA and iran survived US total sanctions?
using many tricks bypassing US sanctions.   China is the one that more easily bypassed US sactions ,
when was poor ,they send workers thousands of them to build roads and bridges and hospitals ,and the country pay back to china in euros or dollars or with trade.



US ,bneither europe have absolutely no way to monitor any trade using the barter system.. but also neither using alternative electronic payment system to swift. however if the traded products are electronics from US ,or any of its major allies doing the sanctions ,they can track any electronic equipment that connect to the internet. Still every electronics can be hacked.  nothing is 100% bullet proof. But there are levels of difficulty in implementing any bypass of sanctions.

YouTube is blocking Russian media. Frankly, this is called nuking of globalization.

In retaliation Russia should start hosting the pirated contents openly on their servers. Hollywood will collapse in a single day.

Sujoy wrote:YouTube is blocking Russian media. Frankly, this is called nuking of globalization.

In retaliation Russia should start hosting the pirated contents openly on their servers.  Hollywood will collapse in a single day.

Well, In fairness, most Crappywood films would leak first on Russian sites.

After this, pirated content will increase even more.

mnztr wrote:

rigoletto wrote:RT [Telegram] Former Trump advisor Steve Bannon encourages
keyboard warriors "Millennials" to go to war in Ukraine instead of military

“All the millennials that are out there all for this […] get on a plane, get on a
train go on in there, Zelensky’s looking for people, just go, go today,” Bannon
said during a recent podcast.

The fat pig can hold a gun. Why doesn't he go?

Apparently he was being sarcastic and making fun of the armchair warriors and generals... and I don't even like the guy

Airbornewolf wrote:

The Russian MO gave them 2 hours notice to clear civilians before hand. The 72nd main center if you are not aware is where all the fake Ukrainian news and videos are made.

"BREAKING: Ministry of Defense Russia: “To prevent information attacks against Russia, high-precision weapons will strike at the technological facilities of the SBU and the 72nd main PSO center in Kiev.”

Following the latest news, it seems that the pizza is ready.

Sujoy wrote:YouTube is blocking Russian media. Frankly, this is called nuking of globalization.

In retaliation Russia should start hosting the pirated contents openly on their servers.  Hollywood will collapse in a single day.

They can try

VPN powers...ACTIVATE!

Arkanghelsk wrote:They are europeans, not Scythians , nor taliban

Educated and elite people

Hahahaha

As I said, situation in brotherly Ukraine will be normalized

More respect to the Taliban, who kicked out the Americans. They gave us the biggest show since Saigon.
Now they want to be moderators. They are good guys.

The Duran removed its videos from Youtube.  Various media including Russia are abusing the content.   First Channel from Russia
is engaged in total f*ckery where it is putting content creators in danger by grabbing their content without permission and then
slicing it up to push its own narrative.

BTW, the First Channel is infested with 5th column elements. This the analysis by Roman Romanov who does live streams on Ukraine
and is very good at it. Various First Chennel clowns made various statements at the start of the conflict that exposed them as
NATzO loyalists. Their job is to undermine Russia.

kvs wrote:The Duran removed its videos from Youtube.  Various media including Russia are abusing the content.   First Channel from Russia
is engaged in total f*ckery where it is putting content creators in danger by grabbing their content without permission and then
slicing it up to push its own narrative.  

So where can I watch them? Locals requires paid membership for the Duran.