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    Post  sepheronx Sun Nov 26, 2023 6:37 pm

    Doesn't matter. Youtube demonetizes people who show anything in favor of Russia. Plus their algorithm will push up videos with some token examples of Russian armor getting destroyed but will push down the countless videos of western armor being destroyed.

    So even if one floods youtube with videos of destroyed American or European armor in Ukraine, algorithm will auto push it down to hide it

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    Post  GarryB Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:48 am

    Do you think the news media were open and honest during the world wars?

    It is all propaganda till eventually the truth comes out... and when the west wakes up and realises it has be led at high speed towards a cliff it will start looking back at all the hints and warnings it was getting along the way by not only the rest of the world but also people within their own countries that they called putins puppets and other such nonsense.

    Will they be able to stop in time and change course... who knows... this is the financial system they created so when it breaks it will effect them the most.

    Russia will be fine because they produce more energy and food than they need and they can supply allies and neighbours of their choice, but rotten festering countries full of hate and anger... well, let us say they wont be at the top of the lists of generosity...

    People talk about Covid being a plan to reduce the worlds population ignore that economic depression and economic collapse actually do a much more efficient job of that and the economic collapse of the west is not a sensible plan either.

    Poisoned Covid vaccines will only weaken those who take it and the west horded as much as they could so the vast majority that were poisoned were people in the west and most government and health worker jobs made it mandatory... so if the vaccines kill the west is killing off its own health system and its own government... it is creating chaos for itself. An economic collapse wont be a lot different because there wont be any money to pay anyone... everyone will go back to using cash because cash is harder for the government to seize... and walking to the local store to buy a loaf of bread with a wheelbarrow full of cash is something that happened 100 years ago, don't think it can't happen again.

    Covid and the economic collapse were not planned in the west, and are the result of incompetence and greed.

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    Post  ahmedfire Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:42 am

    I was using VPN (Russian server) while receiving WeTransfer link on mail , once i clicked it i found this funny message .

    Using WeTransfer to support SMO  lol1

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    Post  kvs Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:18 pm

    All of these outfits are tools of the elites. PayPal, Patreon, etc. They are all trash.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:03 am

    Great reason for companies in Belarus or Russia or anywhere neutral to develop rival software... it is always easier to develop rival software because you know what you are making and if you previously used a western alternative you can use that experience to make yours better.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:29 am

    The case is we are not talking about software, but a constructed environment.
    Paypal is not software, but a payment system assisting Ebay, first of all.
    It is supported as a business by Vanguard Inc and BlackRock - what does it tell you?
    There are multiple options like this, but Paypal is the most common one for a reason being pumped so hard.
    It is extremely expensive as a corporate tool, and that is only beginning.
    Years ago, I decided to switch off my company from PP, but it was a hard process that continues. First step was to resing from Ebay as a sell platform, too. The case with PP and Ebay is first of all a greed for data that is not connected with the business activities at all. More than a decade ago, PP was just a tool which can be used for customers from Australia, or NZ Laughing or Canada to pay for goods&services abroad. Not worrying about conversion rates, transactional risk etc. As a seller, I was charged with provision - very generous - but I accepted it as a cost of operations.
    In the following years, both PP and Ebay started to collect data about customers, general business operations etc. It ended up with PP demanding ... financial sheets and bank account history  Laughing with fragile personal data that are de facto secured by consumer laws in the EU  Twisted Evil

    And let's be honest - WeTransfer does the same, only on a different scale. It is a platform for sharing big chunks of data. Some are using it to send pictures of puppy dogs, while others sending vital data.
    You may guess how is it financed, being free for most of the applications Twisted Evil

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    Post  franco Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:06 pm

    One of the most mysterious and borderline hilarious "gotcha" propaganda lines from the Westoids has been the lack of indoor toilets in Russia. This comes off especially odd and completely ignorant coming from Ukrainians.

    Here's why (long read)⬇

    According to Ukrstat, in Ukraine, 40% of housing does not have access to a centralized sewerage system: 23.6% in cities and 72% in villages. 40% of the population without sewerage is almost twice as much as in Russia: 21%. Access to running water is even worse: 38% of Ukrainians do not have access to running water, in contrast to 15.5% in Russia.

    Now, in more detail.

    In total, there are 17,385,384 residential premises in Ukraine: these include apartments, private houses, parts of single-family houses, apartments in non-residential buildings, and rooms in dormitories.

    Of these, 10,433,524 have sewerage. This is 60.01%. Please note, that this includes both central and local sewerage. Let us remember the indicator: 60.01% of residential premises in Ukraine in 2020 were equipped with sewerage. Cold water was available in 10,797,392 (62.1%), hot water in 8,174,604 residential properties (47.01%).

    There are even fewer toilets in western Ukraine. Vinnytsia region: out of 834,471 apartments, 361,627 have sewerage. In Volyn, out of 190,068, 68,201. Significantly less than 50% of all houses and apartments are equipped with sewerage in Khmelnytskyi, Ternopil, Rivne, Zhytomyr, and Cherkasy regions. At the same time, in the Odessa region, sewerage is available in 615,641 housing units out of 975,796, and in the Kharkov region - in 863,127 out of 1,273,52. In 2020, the Kherson region had sewerage in 289,932 housing units out of 476,203.

    Now it's becoming obvious that such an exquisite propaganda object as the toilet was chosen to amaze the residents of the western regions, because for them the toilet apparently remains a luxury.

    And, of course, villagers especially dream about toilets. In general, in Ukraine in rural areas there are 6,120,554 housing units: apartments, private houses, living rooms in non-residential premises and dormitories. Of these, 29.2% of objects are equipped with sewerage. Moreover, in the Chernihiv region only 16.7% of housing has a sewer system, in the Vinnitsa region - 17.11%, that is, a maximum of every sixth person has a toilet.

    In Russia, by 2021, 80.8% of housing was supplied with sewerage (60.01% in Ukraine). In rural areas this figure is 54% (29.2% in Ukraine). In Russia, 85.5% of housing has running water (in Ukraine - 62.1%).

    It’s safe to say that stories about Russians’ envy of toilets are written for villagers in Western Ukraine. These people are poorer, and they have fewer toilets, and, most importantly, few of them have been to Russia: they have fewer relatives in Russia, they less often come to Russia for work, preferring to earn extra money in Europe.

    But now the topic of toilets has gone further: the Internet is littered with recordings of conversations between Russians and residents of Ukraine from chat roulettes. Increasingly, Russians, as a joke, feign delight at the mention of a toilet and ask naive Ukrainians to show it.

    And those, already completely frenzied by deprivation and their own propaganda, in all seriousness go with the phone to their peeling toilets to show the whole world a cracked, rust-stained toilet, which most often is not visible, because there is no electricity in the apartment.

    Since all the toilet experts already know the numbers for Russia, it's worth noting that the data for Ukraine was collected from Ukrstat:
    https://ukrstat.gov.ua/operativ/opera

    https://twitter.com/OlgaBazova/status/1734564912691548363

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    Post  Hole Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:35 pm

    Most of those fancy hotels and skyscrapers in Dubai aren´t connected to the sewerage system.
    The old city build decades ago has one, but the new part of the city has to use storage tanks.
    Once a day or so a huge fleet of trucks is used to clear the tanks.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:04 pm

    Burn Khalifa, to begin with.
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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:19 pm

    Ukr propaganda, which is parroted in the NATzO MSM, is utter inanity. They project all of their own failings onto Russia.
    So you have these monkeys claiming that police shake down motorists all over Russia. That may have happened in the 1990s
    but it is only relevant for modern Ukraine. You see this intellectually insulting trash in the Ukr military claims about Russian losses.
    They have been projecting their own losses since day 1. Almost two years of this nonsense and there is not enough push back
    from the obvious facts on the ground. If Russia was losing 8 men for every Ukr soldier, then the Ukr side would have advanced
    on the front. Russia does did not assemble a force 10 times larger than Ukria. It as not even a factor of 2 larger. That means
    that the Russian army would be effectively 4 times less potent than the Ukr army with such a loss rate (in steady state and
    assuming sufficient equipment supply). Obvious facts point to the Ukr army being several times less potent than the Russian army.
    The 8:1 losses apply to the Ukr side.



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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:20 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Burn Khalifa, to begin with.

    Their skyscrapers are vanity projects. If they were all that, then they would build the infrastructure first.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:25 am

    That is what happens when planning is done by internet warriors.

    We need skyscrapers to look like a modern city... is not that far off we need destroyers and cruisers and aircraft carriers now... lets use China as the model for the rate at which we should build these things...

    If you did that you would end up with rubbish... very expensive rubbish that does not work properly... so you would actually be worse off than if you just kept working on the basics and infrastructure first.

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    Post  andalusia Mon Dec 25, 2023 11:32 pm

    I saw this on PolitiFact about Vivek Ramaswamy claims Russia leads the US in hypersonic missiles. The authors of PolitiFact claim that Russia’s hypersonic missiles are considered primitive. The U.S. versions are expected to have sophisticated abilities to glide, be launched by aircraft and maneuver to avoid defenses. Experts say they are a couple of years from being deployed.

    Would like people's thoughts on this, here is an excerpt from the article:


    The race for hypersonic missiles

    Experts told PolitiFact that Ramaswamy has a point that today, Russia, unlike the U.S., is able to deploy hypersonic missiles. But they question whether this is as dangerous as Ramaswamy says.

    Hypersonic missiles have received heightened attention since Russia began deploying them in Ukraine. But they have existed for decades; since the 1950s, some missiles have qualified as hypersonic by traveling more than five times the speed of sound (or around 4,000 miles per hour). These include intercontinental ballistic missiles, known as ICBMs, which can carry nuclear warheads from one continent to another.

    Hypersonic missiles travel so fast because when they reach space, gravity hurls them to hypersonic speeds.

    "It's not hard to make a ballistic missile hypersonic," said Brendan Green, a University of Cincinnati professor who has studied nuclear issues. "Nature will do this for you."

    A more sophisticated type of hypersonic missile would be one that could "travel at a low level, to glide, to be launched from aircraft, to maneuver to avoid defenses," or some combination of those traits, said Lance Janda, a Cameron University military historian.

    One way these weapons can achieve long ranges with limited fuel is by deploying wings that allow them to "glide" for thousands of miles and maneuver without propulsion, at least for a limited time, Janda said. These are the kinds of advances that U.S. hypersonic missiles are expected to include.

    Such missiles might be targeted at an aircraft carrier, a command-and-control center, or even a high-value individual, said Iain Boyd, director of the Center for National Security Initiatives at the University of Colorado Boulder.

    U.S. engineers were at the forefront of hypersonic research in the late 1950s, but the Vietnam War crowded out that research because hypersonic aircraft weren’t relevant to fighting in the jungle, The Wall Street Journal reported Sept. 18. A lack of testing infrastructure has since slowed the pace of development.



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    Post  lancelot Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:03 am

    PolitiFact is just spewing retarded American cope. They are blatantly lying. Russia doesn't just have Kinzhal (air launched maneuverable ballistic missile) in service. They also have Avangard (hypersonic glide vehicle) and Zircon (hypersonic cruise missile). And the US has diddly-squat.

    If the US does eventually put the Dark Eagle into service in Europe, then Russia will just make good on their promise and mate an Avangard upper stage on a Yars lower stage and manufacture the Rubezh. Russia said they wouldn't be the first ones infringing on the INF Treaty limitations in Europe. But if the US does it then the Russians will (easily) counter this. As for the US air launched hypersonic glide vehicle last I heard it was cancelled.

    With regards to the "US being at the forefront of hypersonic research in the 1950s". The first hypersonic missile was the Nazi V-2. And the Nazis used to be the leaders in hypersonic research until their collapse. Both the US and the Soviet Union collected Nazi technology. Both countries copied the V-2. And both countries had programs to make hypersonic rocket powered spaceplanes. These were based on the Nazi Silbervogel program. Then the Soviet Union invented the ICBM. The thing is, the Soviet Union and now Russia, never stopped investing in long range high speed cruise missiles. And the US gave up on it once they had ICBMs.

    A lot of those advanced hypersonic studies the US did in the 1950s never went past paper and lab studies. And the Soviet Union and Russia actually built working systems and never stopped doing it.

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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:32 am

    As Garry has pointed out numerous times, the 1960s hypersonic missiles were variations of rockets. The modern Russian hypersonic systems are
    totally different and involve tech such as scramjets. The Avangard is an extreme temperature and speed, maneuverable glide vehicle unlike anything
    from that era. The Space Shuttle is a high speed exo-atmospheric glider so it is more closely related to the Avangard than any of the hypersonic
    rocket systems from the 1960s.

    This explains why the US has no lead in this field. It is all new tech and Russia is only a gas station posing as an economy in the minds of retarded
    yanqui self-exceptionalists.

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    Post  lancelot Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:01 am

    kvs wrote:As Garry has pointed out numerous times, the 1960s hypersonic missiles were variations of rockets.   The modern Russian hypersonic systems are totally different and involve tech such as scramjets.   The Avangard is an extreme temperature and speed, maneuverable glide vehicle unlike anything from that era.   The Space Shuttle is a high speed exo-atmospheric glider so it is more closely related to the Avangard than any of the hypersonic rocket systems from the 1960s.

    This explains why the US has no lead in this field.   It is all new tech and Russia is only a gas station posing as an economy in the minds of retarded yanqui self-exceptionalists.
    The Soviets figured out quite early that a hypersonic rocket powered spaceplane like the Nazi Silbervogel wouldn't be able to have intercontinental range by itself. So they came up with the Keldysh Bomber concept. This was supposed to be a ramjet powered intercontinental bomber. Ramjets are way more fuel efficient than rockets so this was expected to have the required range. This eventually led to the Burya ramjet powered cruise missile flying at Mach 3.
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    Notice that this first flew in 1957. The US had a similar program running at the same time. The Navaho cruise missile.
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    Both programs were cancelled after the success of the Soviet R-7 and US Atlas ICBMs. It had nothing to do with the Vietnam War or whatever bullshit PoliFact claims. The Navaho missile was cancelled in 1957. They tried flying it four times and it failed four times. The same year the Atlas ICBM flew. The ICBMs did the same job, deliver a nuclear bomb, and were faster so harder to intercept. Not to mention they actually worked.

    The US only got majorly involved in Vietnam after the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964. So clearly it had nothing to do with it.

    The Burya ramjet cruise missile was done by the Lavochkin design bureau. But after their chief designer died the ramjet cruise missile research team went under the control of Chelomei design bureau i.e. OKB-52. Which is basically the creator of all the Soviet and Russian supersonic and hypersonic cruise missiles including the P-500 Bazalt, P-700 Granit, P-800 Oniks, and the Zircon.

    The Soviet naval cruise missile program started out as a way to target US coastal cities with submarines. Because the OKB-52 had the relevant experience they were the ones doing that line of work. Later they added radar guidance to the missiles and made them suitable for anti-shipping attacks so they could target US aircraft carriers.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Dec 26, 2023 6:10 am

    The authors of PolitiFact claim that Russia’s hypersonic missiles are considered primitive.

    The western air defence systems sent to Kiev didn't detect Kinzhal or Iskander... it comes down to scan rate... when you scan with a search radar it might spin at 12 revolutions a minute, which means it takes 5 seconds for the radar to spin around 360 degrees one time.

    When Patriot radar spins around on the first spin it detects Iskander or Kinzhal and 5 seconds later when it comes around again both missiles have moved so far it treats them like separate new targets so it can't work out their proper speed or trajectory and while it is working out what is happening Boom.

    Iskander and Kinzhal are ground and air launched missiles that are powered by solid fuelled rockets, but they also have Zircon which is scramjet powered and slightly faster and half their weight.

    The U.S. versions are expected to have sophisticated abilities to glide, be launched by aircraft and maneuver to avoid defenses. Experts say they are a couple of years from being deployed.

    Things that have not been deployed yet are always better, and in a few years when they are deployed Zircon will be better and they likely will have a few more upgraded systems. They are planning new scramjet powered Kh-31s for example which will also be rather impressive.

    Keep in mind the Zircon is intended to hit ships... a version that carries a small tactical nuke... it could be less than 2KT because it is accurate and can evade being shot down so you can pretty much assume a direct hit so a very small nuke warhead would be plenty and much lighter than the 200kg warhead it probably carries to sink ships, which means it could probably carry rather more fuel and fly rather further to its target.

    Hypersonic missiles have received heightened attention since Russia began deploying them in Ukraine. But they have existed for decades; since the 1950s, some missiles have qualified as hypersonic by traveling more than five times the speed of sound (or around 4,000 miles per hour). These include intercontinental ballistic missiles, known as ICBMs, which can carry nuclear warheads from one continent to another.

    What they are missing is that the Iskander and the Kinzhal that it is based on is not just fast... it actually carries sensors to detect enemy radar signals and can launch chaff and flares and actual decoys and can evade incoming radar homing missiles and SAMs by actively manouvering to avoid their attacks.

    In comparison very high speed targets like IRBM and MRBM and ICBM and even SLBM warheads also go very fast, in fact faster than hypersonic, but they don't manouver to evade interception... what they do is fall on their target in an obvious and predictable flightpath.

    When someone throws a ball to you you watch the ball in flight and work out its trajectory and move your body and hands to where you think the ball will be when you catch it... imagine 5m short of you catching it it turns 30 degrees down and then at 1m it turns 30 degrees left, all while travelling at 150km/h.

    You simply don't have time or the brain power to change the calculations and find the new intercept point and actually move your hands to the new interception point needed to catch the ball.

    When it is a missile you send your interceptor missiles up to the point where it is going to intercept the current flight path of the Kinzhal and so the Kinzhal is flying at 3km/s and your Patriot is streaking up at mach 5 or mach 6 to meet it and then you detect the Kinzhal turn 10 degrees because it detected your patriot missile system... well interception is 4 dimensional maths... the interception point might have just moved 10km, but your missile can't get to the interception point now because it was heading to the original intercept point and to turn and make it to this new intercept point might not be possible in the time available... the Kinzhal missile will blow through the new intercept point in 1.6 seconds time and your Patriot missile is 10km away, so it will take your Patriot missile 6 seconds to turn and get to the new intercept point but in 6 seconds time Kinzhal is 18km away and the Patriot has just run out of fuel and every second the Kinzhal gets about 2km further away.

    Launch another Patriot?

    Well that Kinzhal has already hit its target... which probably was your patriot battery radar and control vehicles.


    Hypersonic missiles travel so fast because when they reach space, gravity hurls them to hypersonic speeds.

    Iskander and Kinzhal never reach space, that is bullshit.

    "It's not hard to make a ballistic missile hypersonic," said Brendan Green, a University of Cincinnati professor who has studied nuclear issues. "Nature will do this for you."

    That is accurate, but S-500 missiles will already intercept targets moving at 7km/s and the S-400 Russian SAM can already hit targets moving at 4.8km/s which is faster than Kinzhal or Zircon which are closer to 3km/s.

    A more sophisticated type of hypersonic missile would be one that could "travel at a low level, to glide, to be launched from aircraft, to maneuver to avoid defenses," or some combination of those traits, said Lance Janda, a Cameron University military historian.

    What a moron... flying low through the thickest part of the atmosphere introduces the risk of flying into things including but not limited to birds and buildings and hills.

    The west is not able to intercept Iskander or Kinzhal or Zircon even if they were given a memo to tell them when it was going to be launched.

    Iran warned the US about its ballistic missile strikes on US based in Iraq and they didn't shoot down any missiles despite those missiles being simple ballistic rockets... ie they didn't manouver... they just went really fast.

    The hypersonic weapons the Russians are talking about are not just fast.

    One way these weapons can achieve long ranges with limited fuel is by deploying wings that allow them to "glide" for thousands of miles and maneuver without propulsion, at least for a limited time, Janda said. These are the kinds of advances that U.S. hypersonic missiles are expected to include.

    Iskander and Kinzhal and Zircon are powered all the way... if this Janda fool knew anything about aerodynamics he would understand the body lift derived from bodies flying at faster than Mach 5 makes wings literally a drag.

    Such missiles might be targeted at an aircraft carrier, a command-and-control center, or even a high-value individual, said Iain Boyd, director of the Center for National Security Initiatives at the University of Colorado Boulder.

    That is exactly what the Russians will use Zircons for and currently and for the foreseeable future the US Navy wont be able to stop them.

    U.S. engineers were at the forefront of hypersonic research in the late 1950s, but the Vietnam War crowded out that research because hypersonic aircraft weren’t relevant to fighting in the jungle, The Wall Street Journal reported Sept. 18. A lack of testing infrastructure has since slowed the pace of development.

    But they would be too white for getting the job done now...

    If the US does eventually put the Dark Eagle into service in Europe, then Russia will just make good on their promise and mate an Avangard upper stage on a Yars lower stage and manufacture the Rubezh. Russia said they wouldn't be the first ones infringing on the INF Treaty limitations in Europe. But if the US does it then the Russians will (easily) counter this.

    Actually modifying the Iskander with a second stage with an added solid rocket booster to get it into the air with a scramjet motor with the front portion being a large fuel tank to absorb the heat of the flight and pump heated fuel to rear mounted scramjet... flying at 40-50km altitude after travelling 1,000km it could dump its now empty fuel tank and continue at mach 10 at 50km altitude with its scramjet motor burning from a full tank of fuel for perhaps 2-3 thousand kms more to its target...

    And the US gave up on it once they had ICBMs.

    They US had to keep their nazis to develop their entire space programme set of rockets...

    Ramjets are way more fuel efficient than rockets so this was expected to have the required range. This eventually led to the Burya ramjet powered cruise missile flying at Mach 3.

    Before ICBMs were proven to be possible both sides worked on large cruise missiles with speeds of mach 3 or thereabouts (materials would not allow them to fly much faster) and flight ranges of 3 to 5 thousand kms. They would be probably rather straight forward to shoot down because they didn't manouver and were rather large objects driven by enormous solid rocket boosters to get them airborne and with ramjets to maintain flight speed to the target... they were mostly fuel.

    The US equivalents were weapons like the Navaho and the Snark... all money dried up when ICBMs stopped exploding and started landing long distances down range.

    ICBMs promised uninterceptable speed but also the potential of satellites in space.

    The choice of where to spend money was clear.

    The US had aircraft carriers so Soviet work on high speed cruise missiles never stopped and has led to Onyx and Zircon... two very potent missiles with enormous growth potential.

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    Post  Hole Tue Dec 26, 2023 11:34 am

    One way these weapons can achieve long ranges with limited fuel is by deploying wings that allow them to "glide" for thousands of miles and maneuver without propulsion, at least for a limited time, Janda said. These are the kinds of advances that U.S. hypersonic missiles are expected to include.
    These entences show you what an "expert" that dude is. Gliders are the most primitive form of hypersonic weapons. But they are the only form
    which the Americans can master so they become "sophisticated". Rolling Eyes

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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:30 pm

    Bolton was screeching that Russia stole US tech. This gatekeeper clown is claiming that Russian tech is primitive. Which is it you flaming retards?

    The common theme in NATzO propaganda spew is that the US and select pals have what amounts to a monopoly in human intelligence. Of course,
    this is a direct reflection of lack of real intelligence. Arrogance and chutzpah are not intelligence.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Dec 26, 2023 11:53 pm

    Hypersonic missiles travel so fast because when they reach space, gravity hurls them to hypersonic speeds.

    This shows a profound lack of understanding about gravity... gravity is a weak force directly related to distance... it takes a planet the size of earth to stop things floating away like the gases in our atmosphere. The further up into space the less the gravity of the earth effects you, and in fact if you fell from orbit to earth and you were not an aerodynamically shaped space craft you might even hit the ground at subsonic speeds because the atmosphere slowed you down so much.

    The wings on the space shuttle are primarily used initially as a giant airbrake and then as it slows down to more normal aircraft flight speeds it is used to generate lift to control the rate of falling so it can glide in a controlled manner and land.

    The problem is not things that fly that fast, the problem is propulsion systems that can maintain that speed to a useful distance and to manouver.

    Iskander is a 4 ton missile that is so heavy because it burns rocket fuel all the way to impact. Its tiny external fins are fixed so to manouver and fly it uses control surfaces that deflect its rocket exhaust so to turn and hit targets it needs for its rocket motor to be running at the time.

    Kinzhal is the same for the same reasons.

    Zircon is scramjet powered and is an air breathing missile that has better range and uses an air breathing jet engine for propulsion, which has the advantages that oxygen can be scooped from the air as it flies so it does not have to carry that around with it in its fuel tanks, but it can also throttle up or down if needed.

    As the US continues to desperately create actual hypersonic weapons Russia is training and testing its air defence against the real thing... by the time the Americans have Hypersonic missiles, the Russian air defences will be ready for them...

    The irony is that the west went from Stealth to Swarms to defeat IADS, while the Soviets went from Swarms with supersonic speed to individual missiles with hypersonic speed.

    The advantage is in the Russian method because the west has never managed to create its own decent IADS network except on US carrier groups.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:51 am

    I don't understand rocket science but I see that when the West failed to intercept Russian hypersonic missile they will wrote the article claiming that it is not hard to make one. Smile

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    Post  kvs Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:59 am

    It is exactly that level of imbecility.

    One line of reasoning is that western politicians, pundits and media are lying to fulfill objectives. But the level of lying tells me that it is not so cunning.
    The clowns really drink their own koolaid. This makes them dangerous. The deciders really can believe that they can win a nuclear war because of
    stealthy B-2s bombing Russia (e.g. 2006 Diplomat article claiming NATzO superiority in tech is overwhelming).

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    Post  kvs Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:52 pm

    YouCrap is so gay. If you browse it without an account it dials the up-vote counter to zero and sometimes you see the original number. Of course, this
    is for creators that are not goosestepping to the one-party woke agenda and are genuinely independent.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Jan 10, 2024 7:39 am

    I was on a page the other day and all the posts were negative, but it had 78K likes...

    I looked back and found it:



    It is an ABC news 60 minutes special quoting a retired US soldier saying Russia and China are a threat to the west...

    If you read the comments they are funny and show people know this guy is working for a US MIC...

    if you scroll down to

    @peterv1318
    2 weeks ago (edited)
    It’s nice to read the comments and see 98% of the People aren’t buying it anymore.

    And click on his replies...

    I posted
    @garryb374
    12 days ago
    And yet it has 78,000 likes. Propaganda.

    Now it says 86K likes... more than I have ever seen for any pro Russian post.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:42 am

    "comments", "likes" and "reactions" are just a tool.
    Most of them are made by boots and harvesters.
    You can just buy them in packages, and this is what Insta/FB/X "stars" are doing.
    I can give you a great example from my own company.
    One of the posts on FB gained some insane number of "reactions", having almost half an mln "views".
    As it was a standard product presentation, it included a link to the store and all the stars & whistles.
    Everything was clear from the post - the product appearance, price, and technical parameters - so anyone who spent 5s to read the post and look at the pic, knows everything.
    According to FB presented data, out of this close to 0.5 mln viewers and more than 250k "interactions", tens of thousands of "people" followed the link, which led them to the purchase process where one could finish the transaction using three clicks. Literally.
    Wanna guess how many of these particular product we have sold in that particular time?
    Round ZERO Laughing
    How possible is, that out of tens of thousands of people, who saw the product, knew the price and technical parameters, and clicked a ling to the store, nobody purchased it?
    Round ZERO Laughing Laughing
    The whole statistic was simply faked by FB. All the "interactions" were made by FB boots and algorithms.
    This whole story ended up with my decision to ceas any FB advertisement, as it was all fake and fraud.
    Wanna know what was the effect? What a Face
    The effect was, that since then, my company FB profile stopped gaining any new "reaches" and "followers", and has kept the same number for the last few years. In those years, it developed rapidly and gained a wide range of different customers What a Face New ones.
    So how is it possible, that company that reached new markets, new groups of people etc, haven't increased it's "followers" number for years?
    Round ZERO Laughing Laughing Laughing

    It is all fukin fake meta world they are trying to construct, and substitute the reality with it.

    The most important thing Musk did while purchasing Twitter - revealing the fact that more than 80% of its content is fake.
    If that thing haven't opened the peoples eyes, it means the case of humankind is hopeless.

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