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This video is a good example of how to blend truth with lies to weave a narrative.
Lies:
- Russia has centralized marine research laboratories and design bureaus unlike they claim. Typically centered around St. Petersburg. And naval procurement is centralized.
- They claim the Admiral Kuznetsov is still in dry dock when it is being outfitted in a naval pier.
- They claim that Russia cannot build gas turbine engines because they were imported from Ukraine and still hasn't built them despite trying to do so. When the Admiral Golovko frigate entered service with Russian gas turbines last month.
- They talk about fires in Russian shipyards claiming this shows their lack of capability or corruption or whatever. While ignoring fires in US shipyards. Heck the US burned down a whole amphibious carrier.
- They claim Chinese ships are "light". When they are anything but. It is just that China has a more balanced fleet than the US one which got rid of its frigates. The Chinese lack aircraft carriers but that is about it.
- They claim the Karakurt lacks anti-air capabilities when it comes with naval Pantsir-M.
- They claim the Russian submarine fleet played no role in the Ukrainian conflict. When it fired Kalibr cruise missiles and likely deployed mines. I would say it was one of the most successful components of the Russian naval effort there really.
- The multiple ship designs, they claim are due to lack of centralized procurement, were meant to reduce risk in acquisition. It was perceived that the Admiral Gorshkov class would take too long to enter service and Admiral Grigorovich was pursued as a lower risk design.
- They don't even mention the Project 20380/5 corvettes. Probably because they would look good. So let's ignore them.
- Claims that Russia lacks the shipyards to build the Lider destroyer are bullshit. The Kirov class destroyers were built at the same shipyard that is building the nuclear icebreakers. The only problem is the shipyard is right now busy building icebreakers. This is the main reason for the delays in Lider in my opinion.
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CruisersKirov class destroyers
Well, if Russia had a big ocean to the left and another to the right of her, the NavyThe multiple ship designs
would propably procure only Frigates and Destroyers + Subs. But there are a lot of
different types of Seas around Russia.
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their excrement on it.
If you have to lie in your "analysis", then you have literally nothing to say. Who cares about your mental issues and need to spread
them around? Social media has become one enormous circle jerk of head cases.
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Meanwhile the Houthis have denazified the red sea
I guess Americans should ask why they don't have free Healthcare after all
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kvs wrote:YouCrap is full of lunatic propaganda videos produced by retards pissing and shitting their pants with fear of Russia and projecting
their excrement on it.
If you have to lie in your "analysis", then you have literally nothing to say. Who cares about your mental issues and need to spread
them around? Social media has become one enormous circle jerk of head cases.
Bullseye.
Sometimes I wonder if some of us are so paranoid. Honestly
No, not everything surrounding us is a conspiracy and deliberated propaganda.
Some of it is the one indeed.
But most of it, is just some farts made by a random folk with inferiority syndrome considering himself a Napoleon or Alexander the Great. Or better than both, combined.
Only the world has not found him out as such a great person yet.
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That is exactly what THEY want you to believe!No, not everything surrounding us is a conspiracy and deliberated propaganda.
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Russian propaganda....
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Anyways, in this particular video, at around 6:47, the host lied about how the new official map of China has annexed the Russian city of Vladivostok in the Far Eastern federal district.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by0zxkVv2-c
So the spot with the red circle is where the propagandist host claims Vladivostok is situated
BUT, in reality, Vladivostok is in this spot where the red circle is
This can be confirmed using other maps like google:
NATzO propaganda is going off the roof after their recent battlefield defeats in Ukraine
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the content being pushed is this narrative that both Russia and China are out to backstab each other
As Putin said: Russia often hears 'boogeyman stories' about China, but sees its peaceful nature.
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rest of the planet that does not submit to their whims. The whole Ukraine shit-show is a delusional fantasy by NATzO. The
expectations they have are lunatic grade nonsense.
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Basically you get a large group of people who line up and the person at one end will whisper into the next persons ear a phrase. That person whispers the phrase into the next persons ear and so on and so on till the last person says out loud what was whispered to them.
The thing is that anyone at any point along the row of people can change the message to anything they want.
The amusement in the game is how much the phrase changes even with honest players playing.
When some idiot tries to ruin everything by completely subverting the message everyone in the row knows what they heard and what they said and it is a question of tracking down who made the change.
The reason it was called Chinese whispers was of course racist... can't trust them Chinese... they speak with forked tongue.
But western intelligence services and their propaganda machines around the world are running at the highest bullshit setting to say things like... Russia is going to double cross China... they are going to sign all sorts of new defence agreements with the US when the war ends and they are going to turn on China, or China is secretly negotiating with the west because they have lots of ammo to sell to Kiev to make billions of easy dollars and upgrade their production capacity at the same time.
And China will invade India and India will invade China...
Because China and Russia and India actually working together and cooperating is actually more economically and politically dangerous to the US than Russia working together with Europe.
The US and the west is funding the murder of tens of thousands of Russian soldiers... things are not going back to normal any time soon... and the Chinese know it is just a matter of time before the US comes up with some excuse to start a war on its border... whether it is over Taiwan or with India so there is no point sucking up to the US because they don't care about anyone... they need a few wars to build up their MIC and make a few Americans who were already rich... a little bit richer, and also distract the American people away from the fact that they are in the shit.
They broke the EU trying to hurt Russia and it worked... the EU is broken, but it failed because it was supposed to damage Russia and it made her stronger and more sure that her future does not really involve Europe or the west.
Will they break Taiwan or India trying to damage China?
They don't care which... if it damaged China they would break both.
India is going to be a problem down the road anyway so might as well damage India and China at the same time.
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Ukria, as a battering ram against China. This plan is utterly detached from reality just like the Ukrian one. These lunatics expect
China to fold like a limp noodle. Disruption of global trade will more likely force the NATzO west to fold like a wet noodle.
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These retards think that their fantasy projections onto Russia will bring them easy victory. To claim that Russians are sending meat waves
in Ukraine shows these clowns for what they are. Somehow Russians with their 10:1 artillery advantage are managing to lose vast numbers
of men in small arms engagements. Seriously, are they fighting with themselves?
The copium-tardation is extreme. The Nazis didn't have the right winter clothing so they failed to take Moscow. WTF? They first
had to fail to take Moscow for "General Winter" to pound their asses. It's the same delusion-think as with Napoleon who lost his whole
army running away from Russia. He first had to fail to win and seize control before being General Wintered in a full retreat. These
copium-tards are full bore retards since they have infinitesimal capacity for logical thinking.
WWII was an artillery war as well. Did the Soviets lob infantry together with the shells? You know, just to expend meat. The biggest
delta between Nazi and allied forces and Soviet forces is the death of 3.3 million Soviet POWs in German captivity. This is not KIA but a war crime.
Remove this number and all the "human wave" BS evapourates. Only 20% of German POWs died in Soviet captivity and that was due to
starvation which affected regular Soviet citizens as well. Germans were very efficient in attacking food stores. The food shortage was
the reason why highest death rate in the gulags was in 1942 (the one cited as the typical death rate by western revisionists).
So we have starvation as "genocide" during the 1930s in Soviet Ukraine, but "evidence" of "human waves" when it comes to the war on
the eastern front. Hater logic excrement that appears to be congenital in the NATzO west.
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In some of the memories I have read, there was a call that he was used to taking a "pint" of whisky daily.
Some bad souls claim he meant French one
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China, the great puppet master.
All the best propaganda turns reality on its head.
China is the factory of the west... the west sends all their factories and bio weapons labs there and give orders and the Chinese make their shit for them... why would China even consider destroying their main customer?
The west on the other hand now realise that China is becoming rich and powerful and their investment building factories and giving them work and orders is part of what is making them rich because they are not stupid damn natives... they are now building their own factories and making their own stuff to meet their own needs and the west no longer controls them.
A few centuries ago the west wanted their silk and paper and other technologies but had nothing the Chinese wanted in payment so they flooded the place with Opium and cause enormous problems for that country that caused enormous pain and damage.
Now the US is high on Fentynal and the demand is enormous... and can you guess who is making it for them?
Nothing feels better than revenge, except they are not doing it to the colonial power that did it to them all those years ago, they are no doing it to that colonial powers colonial master instead... the irony...
Over the next few years we are going to read about master Putin who made the west attack Russia, it was all planned to destroy the wonderful relationship the west had with Russia and the west just wants it all to go back the way it was... cheap energy and Russia keeping its head down and not interfering with anything so the west can control everything again.
Now China and India and even African countries seem to think they don't need or don't want the west telling them what to do and how to behave and it just isn't fair...
The really funny thing is that even if they had a time machine and could go back and warn themselves, they would dismiss themselves as Putins puppets... there is no way Russia could stand up to the entire west... they are just a third world gas station with nukes.
BTW have seen rumours that suggest the nickname Obummer might be more accurate than we thought...
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So I have a TCL Smart TV, its an average Smart TV where you can download apps like Netflix, Youtube, etc,
Now, I noticed that there are a lot more Apps available if you search for it, especially for Western news outfits likes CNN, BBC, CBC, etc.
But when I searched for the RuTube App, its nowhere to be found, I find this strange because i was under the impression that Smart TV's are just like Android phones where you can search for Apps to download, reason why I mentioned this is because you can download a RuTube app on Android phones, but there is no App when you search on a Smart TV.
The only way around this is to use the Web browser on the Smart TV and go to Rutube.ru to watch videos there, but this method is kind of a hassle and would have been much better if you could just download a RuTube app.
So, either RuTube didn't bother or thought of an idea to have a RuTube app downloadable for Smart TVs, or NATzO blocked RuTube and other Russian apps from Smart TVs sold in their countries
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There is model differences even between USA and Canada. I saw it a lot with Hisense TV's where the models are very different.
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We bought a nice Samsung smart TV about 10 years ago but after a couple of years we found it used an older version of android so we couldn't use local TV streaming services like TVNZ+ which was a bit of a pain. Not censorship. Just annoying.
For a long time I had to download the local lottery app from the lottery website because the app store did not allow gambling apps.
They do now.
Sometimes it is policy and other times it is censorship but it can also be obsolescence and android version numbers.
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Ameri-tards want to believe that the CCP is engaging in Dr. Evil attacks on their precious dignity. This is a species of subconscious cope since
it is America that is doing the drug running as an actual geopolitical tool (e.g. Afghanistan and the CIA black money operations where they
sold and like still sell narcotics to American citizens).
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The US can hardly point fingers, the western drug trade... the pharmaceutical companies pedal their crap to anyone who will buy it and even after it is found to be dangerous they keep selling it to third world markets until they ban the product.
And of course they are more interested in their bottom line that the well being of the users of their products... recent experience with their vaccines show that.
When western drug companies sell excessive amounts of opiates then that is just good business, but if Russia or China does it then it becomes a problem.
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