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    2022 Kazakhstan violent unrest

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    Post  GarryB Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:04 am

    This is extremely unsettling that the U.S government is financing bio labs in Kazaksthan (and perhaps in other parts of the world).

    But it was the likely very expensive network of US biolabs around the world that enabled the US to act so quickly and so decisively to nip the Covid epidemic in the bud so that it remained a regional problem like Ebola... except oops... their response was one of the worst... money well spent as usual...

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:20 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:They are mad that their guys got fucking owned.
    I'm starting to think turkey was directly involved and they decided to jump other direction when their men got wasted.  Trying to make it sound like it wasn't their idea at all.
    Fucking turkroaches.

    But you realize that this guy is no one? He can proclaim himself an emperor of planet Earth.

    It's also the other proof above of certain terrorists meetings with Turkish officials.
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    Post  Airbornewolf Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:52 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:They are mad that their guys got fucking owned.
    I'm starting to think turkey was directly involved and they decided to jump other direction when their men got wasted.  Trying to make it sound like it wasn't their idea at all.
    Fucking turkroaches.

    But you realize that this guy is no one? He can proclaim himself an emperor of planet Earth.

    no offense to anyone, but Turkey and Terrorism goes hand in hand when it suits them.

    Remember Turkey got along just fine with ISIS?.



    And...russia putting an stop to that little Turkey/ISIS oil co-operation

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    Post  Sujoy Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:10 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:Maybe its CSTO that needs to "expand without limit" to all nations that want membership? Razz
    Not a bad idea. But then the role of SCO will be at conflict with CSTO. China won't appreciate a large role for the CSTO in the region.
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    Post  ALAMO Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:31 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:They are mad that their guys got fucking owned.
    I'm starting to think turkey was directly involved and they decided to jump other direction when their men got wasted.  Trying to make it sound like it wasn't their idea at all.
    Fucking turkroaches.

    But you realize that this guy is no one? He can proclaim himself an emperor of planet Earth.

    It's also the other proof above of certain  terrorists meetings with Turkish officials.

    Yeah, but it is kind of commenting on a random comment on Twitter.
    As Airbornewolf said, Turkey is a country that used, uses, and will use terror to push its own goals.
    They understand power only.
    Nothing new.
    Worst case scenario, Russia would have to live on its own tomatoes Laughing while putting an embargo on Erdo.

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    Post  Arrow Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:00 pm

    You think that despite the withdrawal of CSTO, Russia will leave some forces in Kazakhstan?
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    Post  ALAMO Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:23 pm

    There are Russian forces in Kazachstan anyway.
    Shary Shagan, Baikonur, and 602. Airbase.
    The question is, if they will extend it.
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    Post  kvs Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:20 pm

    Putin is giving all the western haters a swift kick to the 'nads by withdrawing so fast. Every hater that I have heard
    is going on and on about how the "Russian occupation is here". With 3,000 troops in a 20 million country almost the size
    of NATzO Europe. bounce

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:33 pm

    kvs wrote:Putin is giving all the western haters a swift kick to the 'nads by withdrawing so fast.   Every hater that I have heard
    is going on and on about how the "Russian occupation is here".   With 3,000 troops in a 20 million country almost the size
    of NATzO Europe.  bounce

    Really fast

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    Post  lyle6 Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:40 pm

    Gigachad Putler. Dude made a point and is now leaving without elaborating.
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    Post  Airbornewolf Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:10 pm

    kvs wrote:Putin is giving all the western haters a swift kick to the 'nads by withdrawing so fast.   Every hater that I have heard
    is going on and on about how the "Russian occupation is here".   With 3,000 troops in a 20 million country almost the size
    of NATzO Europe.  bounce

    i know, .. First, NATO has to fight over the air transport capability. It is just downright sad.
    There are 3 E.U C-17's in Hungary that are shared by all. of course there are maintenance schedules.
    The one stray C-130 or A400 is not going to mean much here.

    Troop deployment?.
    Well, logistic company's are disbanded for budget cuts. Because paying civilian company's to haul cargo is cheaper.
    Cant drive your vehicles either, because of all these maintenance contracts. That for example state if an vehicle drives an x ammount of kilometers under own power on say like a highway.
    All service and warranty is nullified.
    Then you got the very poor condition of EU millitarys because of deployment exhaustion and budget cuts.
    Millitary's litterally strip their trucks and tanks that just needed some minor parts. To just keep others running in an process called "cannibalisation".
    Troops are just not "battle-ready" because they just cant replace broken gear.
    If they need to go on an mission, gear is pulled from other units. to make these units equipped for deployment.

    Munition's?. they are non-existent. ammo-bunkers are empty. There is maybe enough for an year of the usual shooting exercises.
    Its only bought for missions if neccesary,...and then second-hand if they can resulting in munition accidents.

    NATO can not do what the russians did,....unless you give them an minimum of 4 weeks to prepare. even then it is an very big maybe. it would mean the U.S has to fly most of their total airlift capacity to Europe. lol1
    NATO has a very big mouth, but absolutely nothing to back it up with.
    i am 100% confident any engagement with russian forces will go pretty quick and one-sided.
    and i do not mean in the advantage of NATO....

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    Anyone seen the very frustrated press conferences off Stoltenberg and Blinken?. That was not an press conference, it was two people throwing an temper-tantrum from a lot of personal frustration.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:29 am


    no offense to anyone, but Turkey and Terrorism goes hand in hand when it suits them.

    To be fair... put EU, or HATO, or the US and the sentence still works...

    The US is notorious for its selective labelling of freedom fighters... from the IRA to Chechen rebels... from Afghan rebels fighting the Soviets and all sorts of groups in central and south america they supported because they were useful to their causes.

    They even try to rebrand terrorists as moderate terrorists so they can justify supporting them against their legitimate leadership... in Syria and Libya and Venezuela and lots of other places too.

    Stopped listening to the west a long time ago... it is mostly accusing its perceived opponents of things the west does with no actual evidence their opponents even did anything in the first place.

    The west likes to demonise its opponents and rivals by accusing them of western crimes, but usually on a smaller scale... the Russians interfered in US elections in 2016... but the US election result was right in 2020 so no verification needed... no evidence they interfered... but tons of evidence that China spent money on the Democrats getting in and of course the Israelis likely spent a fortune of every election too... but that is OK... and of course ignoring the blatant outright interference by the US in most significant elections around the world... including coups when their interference fails.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:06 pm

    If this is correct it could account for the two aircraft apparently leaving just before the RuAF arrived.

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    HUGE: The Kazakhstan hybrid war was "coordinated from a single center," says Tokayev. @RealPepeEscobar
    says that included "22 Americans, 16 Turks and 6 Israelis coordinating sabotage gangs - trained by the Turks - and rat-lined to Almaty." https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/5668
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    The article linked is long and detailed, well worth the time to read.

    https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/5668

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:10 pm

    And how does that adds to an official Tokayew stand towards Turkey?
    The meetings with Russian FM?
    Maybe we really have something that is not connected to the Turk govt&Erdo, but the opposition?
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    Post  kvs Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:21 pm

    JohninMK wrote:If this is correct it could account for the two aircraft apparently leaving just before the RuAF arrived.

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    says that included "22 Americans, 16 Turks and 6 Israelis coordinating sabotage gangs - trained by the Turks - and rat-lined to Almaty." https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/5668
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    The article linked is long and detailed, well worth the time to read.

    https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/5668

    People like to say that the seizure of the Almaty airport was to stop "Russian" (CSTO) support via air. But in my opinion it was
    the same as in 2014 in Crimea: a plan to move more militants and NATzO assets into the country. CSTO paratroopers could
    be landed anywhere by air drops. Terrorists don't quite have this level of preparation.

    Another thing is clear. Russia was pushing a regime change of its own since it saw the Maidan writing on the wall. This is
    why Tokaev was moved into his current post and Nazarbayev was maneuvered into a shadow slot. When the regime change
    operation was initiated it served as the perfect pretext to remove Nazarbayev and his compardor cronies. Russia was
    totally on the ball with its intelligence operations.

    The story how Russia can't into regime change counter measures has been fully debunked.

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    Post  par far Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:10 pm

    JohninMK wrote:If this is correct it could account for the two aircraft apparently leaving just before the RuAF arrived.

    Sharmine Narwani
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    HUGE: The Kazakhstan hybrid war was "coordinated from a single center," says Tokayev. @RealPepeEscobar
    says that included "22 Americans, 16 Turks and 6 Israelis coordinating sabotage gangs - trained by the Turks - and rat-lined to Almaty." https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/5668
    @TheCradleMedia


    The article linked is long and detailed, well worth the time to read.

    https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/5668



    Now that more information is coming out(Russian and Chinese intelligence already knows/knew), it will be interesting, if Russia hits back at Turkey and Israel.

    Chinese are really mad from all the reports because this is a very sensitive area/situation for them.

    I really hope messages are sent to Turkey and Israel.

    For Turkey, start hitting the terrorist's hard in Idlib and let the Kurds hit them as well.

    For Israel, give the SAA air defenses the greenlight to hit Israeli fighter jets, whenever these assholes attack.

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    Post  Hole Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:17 pm

    This info will be used by Putin/Lavrov/Shoigu in private, closed door meeting with Erdoscum and the current war criminal in charge of Israhell.

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    Post  par far Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:47 pm

    Maybe(just maybe) sending a message to Erdog.

    https://southfront.org/greater-idlib-casualties-reported-following-explosion-at-fuel-station-near-turkeys-border-videos/

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    Post  kvs Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:54 pm

    par far wrote:Maybe(just maybe) sending a message to Erdog.

    https://southfront.org/greater-idlib-casualties-reported-following-explosion-at-fuel-station-near-turkeys-border-videos/


    I do not think so. Those clowns blew themselves up.

    Erdo is driving Turkey into hyperinflation which means he is going to be desperate for foreign money. He is going to
    have to beg the rest of NATzO because China is not going to give it him. Mercouris discusses this aspect and I think
    it is highly relevant. Clowns leaders like Erodgan can't help but snookering themselves.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:14 am

    par far wrote:...Chinese are really mad from all the reports because this is a very sensitive area/situation for them...

    Who are Chinese mad at? And why?
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:41 am

    The business jets are back in the air. Peace (or money) must be back Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:45 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    par far wrote:...Chinese are really mad from all the reports because this is a very sensitive area/situation for them...

    Who are Chinese mad at? And why?

    Erdogan as they think he was involved in the attempted coup. Simplistically because Kazakstan is very high risk, if the Islamists (Erdogan's shock Jihadist troops) take over, to their western province.

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    Post  LMFS Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:07 am

    kvs wrote:I do not think so.  Those clowns blew themselves up.

    Erdo is driving Turkey into hyperinflation which means he is going to be desperate for foreign money.   He is going to
    have to beg the rest of NATzO because China is not going to give it him.   Mercouris discusses this aspect and I think
    it is highly relevant.   Clowns leaders like Erodgan can't help but snookering themselves.

    Exactly, Russia is just getting along with Turkey, using their ambitions to detach them from the US camp and simply giving Erdogan time to run the country into the ground. Real statesmen do not even need to break sweat to deal with such delusional rivals, it is pure art of war in action.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:34 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    par far wrote:...Chinese are really mad from all the reports because this is a very sensitive area/situation for them...

    Who are Chinese mad at? And why?

    He was behind the coup, thinking he is more powerful than he actually is. I guess people here forgot just how the turks are?

    Kazan is an important place for china due to belt and road, so Erdo trying to **** them over there isn't something they will like.
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