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    Post  kvs 07/01/22, 08:04 pm

    Nazarbayev was a traitor to the people of Kazakhstan. He was a dictator pushing his pro-west agenda on them.
    He was a moron as well since playing footsie with the west does not secure power, it exposes you to regime change.
    You help the west infiltrate its influence in your country and then they get rid of you to install a more dedicated
    bootlick.

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    Post  Godric 07/01/22, 08:07 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Godric wrote:Demands of the Protesters in Kazakhstan

    1. Immediate release of all political prisoners
    2. Full resignation of president and government
    3. Political reforms : Creation of a Provisional Government of reputable and public citizens.
    4. Withdrawal from all alliances with Russia

    We were told this "democracy movement" is about "rise in fuel prices".  The govt already conceded that demand and revoked those prices. And yet the protests continue.  Point 4 looks like a grand geo-political objective.  big hints of colour revolution.

    Well armed and trained protestors.   This is not a hint, this is proof.  

    The price of LPG is no basis for any government to resign.  Especially in the face of an armed insurrection involving the murder
    of police.  Frothing at the mouth western hypocrites can demand anything they want through their proxies.   Maybe the US
    government should have resigned because of January 6, 2021 protests on Capitol Hill.   You know, it actually should have since
    Biden won by electoral fraud.   But instead of this being any issue one year later, we have comparisons of the "riot" to 9/11
    and Pearl Harbor.  

    i hear you brother, the word "hint" was me being sarcastic it's a common trait in Scots

    the thing is even with the increase in gas prices in Kazakhstan they still have the lowest fuel prices in the world with a massive margin, this is all the hallmarks of America and probably the main reason they pulled out of Afghanistan, because there new project was to instigate colour revolutions in the former Soviet Republics

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    Post  par far 07/01/22, 08:09 pm

    kvs wrote:Nazarbayev was a traitor to the people of Kazakhstan.  He was a dictator pushing his pro-west agenda on them.
    He was a moron as well since playing footsie with the west does not secure power, it exposes you to regime change.
    You help the west infiltrate its influence in your country and then they get rid of you to install a more dedicated
    bootlick.  



    Tony Blair was the "main accountant" in London for Nazarbayev.

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    Post  par far 07/01/22, 08:11 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:Margarita Smyonan delivers excellent advice:

    Of course we should help. We absolutely should help. But there are several conditions to make -- recognize Crimea (as Russian territory), return the Cyrillic alphabet, (and institute) Russian as a second state language, like in Kyrgyzst

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    Another condition must be that Chevron be kicked out and let Russian Oil companies in.

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    Post  PhSt 07/01/22, 08:37 pm

    It didn't take that long for the NATzO backed insurrectionists to reveal their true intentions  Rolling Eyes


    West must stand up to Russia in Kazakhstan, opposition leader says

    LONDON — The West must pull Kazakhstan out of Moscow’s orbit or Russian President Vladimir Putin will draw the Central Asian state into “a structure like the Soviet Union,” a former minister who is now a Kazakh opposition leader told Reuters.

    Protests  that began as a response to a fuel price rise swelled this week into a broad movement against Nursultan Nazarbayev, who stepped aside as president in 2019 after decades in office but has remained the real power in Kazakhstan.

    Mukhtar Ablyazov, a former banker and government minister who is leader of an opposition movement called Democratic Choice of Kazakhstan, said the West needed to enter the fray.

    “If not, then Kazakhstan will turn into Belarus and (Russian President Vladimir) Putin will methodically impose his program – the recreation of a structure like the Soviet Union,” Ablyazov told Reuters in Russian from Paris. “The West should tear Kazakhstan away from Russia.”

    “Russia has already entered, sent in troops. CSTO is Russia. This is an occupation by Russia,” he said.

    https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/west-must-stand-up-to-russia-in-kazakhstan-opposition-leader-says

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    Post  Backman 07/01/22, 08:53 pm

    kvs wrote:Nazarbayev was a traitor to the people of Kazakhstan.  He was a dictator pushing his pro-west agenda on them.
    He was a moron as well since playing footsie with the west does not secure power, it exposes you to regime change.
    You help the west infiltrate its influence in your country and then they get rid of you to install a more dedicated
    bootlick.  


    I agree. What is Russia supposed to do with these cocksuckers ? It's not easy.

    If i was Putin , i would have kidnapped Lukashenkos son for him meeting with Pompeo.

    But in the end , looks like Putin got the union state. So maybe he played it right


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    Post  ALAMO 07/01/22, 08:56 pm

    PhSt wrote:It didn't take that long for the NATzO backed insurrectionists to reveal their true intentions  Rolling Eyes


    West must stand up to Russia in Kazakhstan, opposition leader says

    LONDON — The West must pull Kazakhstan out of Moscow’s orbit or Russian President Vladimir Putin will draw the Central Asian state into “a structure like the Soviet Union,” a former minister who is now a Kazakh opposition leader told Reuters.

    Protests  that began as a response to a fuel price rise swelled this week into a broad movement against Nursultan Nazarbayev, who stepped aside as president in 2019 after decades in office but has remained the real power in Kazakhstan.

    Mukhtar Ablyazov, a former banker and government minister who is leader of an opposition movement called Democratic Choice of Kazakhstan, said the West needed to enter the fray.

    “If not, then Kazakhstan will turn into Belarus and (Russian President Vladimir) Putin will methodically impose his program – the recreation of a structure like the Soviet Union,” Ablyazov told Reuters in Russian from Paris. “The West should tear Kazakhstan away from Russia.”

    “Russia has already entered, sent in troops. CSTO is Russia. This is an occupation by Russia,” he said.

    https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/west-must-stand-up-to-russia-in-kazakhstan-opposition-leader-says

    This guy is sentenced for fraud, a financial pyramid, and some mystery murderers.
    Azyled in France, while being hunted in Kaz, Rus, Ukr nad the UK Laughing
    A laundering case is on going in the US Laughing Laughing
    What a brilliant "opposition leader" case Laughing

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    Post  magnumcromagnon 07/01/22, 09:01 pm

    This is the reason why Pepe Escobar is one of the few 'real' journalist left!

    The crucial internal power struggle angle in Kazakhstan is now graphically clear.

    Nazarbayev, his daughters and their families all left the country.

    That's the end of the "multi-vector" foreign policy.

    Tokayev is asserting control - and thanked Russia and China.

    https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1479416878284091394

    The CSTO peacekeeping team in Kazakhstan is headed by an ultra seasoned pro: commander of the Russian Airborne Forces Andrei Serdyukov.

    Russia will NOT engage in any combat: the CSTO mission is to stabilize/ protect strategic facilities.

    The rest is NATOstan clownish noise.

    https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1479421317728423938

    Erdoganistan media is going bonkers.

    Russia is "occupying" Kazakhstan; it's an imperialist force; and is trying to prevent Turkey's attempt to create an anti-Russian alliance of Turkic nations.

    Looks like their beheading assets screwed up.

    https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1479422717187272705

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    Post  Karl Haushofer 07/01/22, 09:16 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:Margarita Smyonan delivers excellent advice:

    Of course we should help. We absolutely should help. But there are several conditions to make -- recognize Crimea (as Russian territory), return the Cyrillic alphabet, (and institute) Russian as a second state language, like in Kyrgyzst

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    Also take away Chevron owned oil fields in Kazakhstan and give them to Rosneft and other Russian oil companies.

    That would be a good retaliation for the US seizure of Syrian oil.

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    Post  par far 07/01/22, 09:25 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:This is the reason why Pepe Escobar is one of the few 'real' journalist left!

    The crucial internal power struggle angle in Kazakhstan is now graphically clear.

    Nazarbayev, his daughters and their families all left the country.

    That's the end of the "multi-vector" foreign policy.

    Tokayev is asserting control - and thanked Russia and China.

    https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1479416878284091394

    The CSTO peacekeeping team in Kazakhstan is headed by an ultra seasoned pro: commander of the Russian Airborne Forces Andrei Serdyukov.

    Russia will NOT engage in any combat: the CSTO mission is to stabilize/ protect strategic facilities.

    The rest is NATOstan clownish noise.

    https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1479421317728423938

    Erdoganistan media is going bonkers.

    Russia is "occupying" Kazakhstan; it's an imperialist force; and is trying to prevent Turkey's attempt to create an anti-Russian alliance of Turkic nations.

    Looks like their beheading assets screwed up.

    https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1479422717187272705



    I wonder what country they are going to? I think they are headed for London.

    Wonder to what extent Turkey was involved? If they were involved at all?

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    Post  kvs 07/01/22, 09:37 pm

    Turkey was 100% involved.  Pan-turkic delusions are extreme and they can't help themselves.

    When I look at a Turk from Turkey I do not see too much similarity to a Kazakh from Kazakhstan.   The Turkic aspect
    is tangential.   Bulgarians speak a Slavic language but are not Slavs.   Kazakhs are not Turks.

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    Post  ALAMO 07/01/22, 09:43 pm

    kvs wrote:Turkey was 100% involved.  Pan-turkic delusions are extreme and they can't help themselves.

    When I look at a Turk from Turkey I do not see too much similarity to a Kazakh from Kazakhstan.   The Turkic aspect
    is tangential.   Bulgarians speak a Slavic language but are not Slavs.   Kazakhs are not Turks.

    ... but on the other hand, Tokayev included the Turk govt in his thanksgiving list, just after the Russia and China ...

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    Post  Urluber 07/01/22, 09:57 pm

    PhSt wrote:It didn't take that long for the NATzO backed insurrectionists to reveal their true intentions  Rolling Eyes


    West must stand up to Russia in Kazakhstan, opposition leader says

    LONDON — The West must pull Kazakhstan out of Moscow’s orbit or Russian President Vladimir Putin will draw the Central Asian state into “a structure like the Soviet Union,” a former minister who is now a Kazakh opposition leader told Reuters.

    Protests  that began as a response to a fuel price rise swelled this week into a broad movement against Nursultan Nazarbayev, who stepped aside as president in 2019 after decades in office but has remained the real power in Kazakhstan.

    Mukhtar Ablyazov, a former banker and government minister who is leader of an opposition movement called Democratic Choice of Kazakhstan, said the West needed to enter the fray.

    “If not, then Kazakhstan will turn into Belarus and (Russian President Vladimir) Putin will methodically impose his program – the recreation of a structure like the Soviet Union,” Ablyazov told Reuters in Russian from Paris. “The West should tear Kazakhstan away from Russia.”

    “Russia has already entered, sent in troops. CSTO is Russia. This is an occupation by Russia,” he said.



    That type of people must live in some parallel universe.  
    What in their opinion can USA (let alone rest of the west) do about it? This would always be very interesting to hear.


    PS. Disarming of armed gangs seems to be going forward in Almaty.

    Two groups of armed people were detained in Alma-Ata.
    A pistol and a knife were found on two men. Another five detainees were seized with a 'Saiga' carbine with cartridges, rubber and metal batons, containers with gasoline and gold items. The portal Tengrinews.kz reports.


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    Post  JohninMK 07/01/22, 10:03 pm

    General info on Chinese investments.

    I would think that there are worried Directors in Chevron's HQ.

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    Post  par far 07/01/22, 10:12 pm

    Kazakh media is saying that the foreign backed terrorists are speaking Arabic. Don't know how true this is.
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    Post  kvs 07/01/22, 11:08 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    kvs wrote:Turkey was 100% involved.  Pan-turkic delusions are extreme and they can't help themselves.

    When I look at a Turk from Turkey I do not see too much similarity to a Kazakh from Kazakhstan.   The Turkic aspect
    is tangential.   Bulgarians speak a Slavic language but are not Slavs.   Kazakhs are not Turks.

    ... but on the other hand, Tokayev included the Turk govt in his thanksgiving list, just after the Russia and China ...

    Nobody said he had to hate the Turks.   Obviously Turkey is a player in his neighbourhood.

    Turkish claims on a huge chunk of Asia are basically on the flimsy pretext of the Altaic group languages. On this basis they
    should also claim Russia, Japan, Korea, Mongolia, etc. Russia claiming all the Slavic lands would make more sense since
    this is not just a language group but an actual ethnic group. Kazakhs are not Turkic ethnics.

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    Post  kvs 07/01/22, 11:23 pm



    There is an oligarch clan war in Kazakhstan.   The airport was seized with the help of people inside the government.
    The "protestors" were armed with sniper rifles and followed an urban warfare attack pattern.

    Also, Nazarbayev and most of his immediate family have fled to Russia.  

    Kazkahstan is like Ukraine and the other limitrophe states of the former USSR.   They have a bunch of opportunist maggots,
    oligarchs, who are very eager to sell their "countries" down the river.   This is easy pickings for Washington since it has those
    precious dollars that all of these maggots crave so much.

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    Post  Airbornewolf 07/01/22, 11:32 pm

    before anyone here fumes for me posting an Clinton News Network Link.
    I know i know Razz...

    But listen to the first few seconds to Tokayev, i never really heard of him before all of this kicked off, but im starting to like him.
    roughly translated. "shove your western backed coup up your ass"

    "I gave the order to kill without warning"
    https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/01/07/kazakhstan-president-sot-es-intl-hnk-vpx.cnn

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    Post  Airbornewolf 07/01/22, 11:42 pm

    kvs wrote:

    There is an oligarch clan war in Kazakhstan.   The airport was seized with the help of people inside the government.
    The "protestors" were armed with sniper rifles and followed an urban warfare attack pattern.  

    Also, Nazarbayev and most of his immediate family have fled to Russia.  

    Kazkahstan is like Ukraine and the other limitrophe states of the former USSR.   They have a bunch of opportunist maggots,
    oligarchs, who are very eager to sell their "countries" down the river.   This is easy pickings for Washington since it has those
    precious dollars that all of these maggots crave so much.

    These should be labeled as "traitors" as soon they start dancing to Washington's Tunes.
    Of course, by this point the government authority has eroded to the point these oligarch's feel comfortable to do so.

    Perhaps now the CSTO rolled in with Russia at the helm these rats can get some justice.
    Russia is more than fammiliar with oligarch's filling their pockets with money at the cost of everyone and their country.

    Putin:"give me back my pen" Cool




    Also, our weasel crawled from under his damp,dark rock and is concerned about "muh rebelz".
    so...how is the Combat Air Patrol going over Kazachstan?.
    you got my support to turn it into an NATO-No fly zone.

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    Post  Hole 08/01/22, 12:11 am

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    It took the russian armed forces less then 24 hours to assemble a multi-national (sort of) force and bring them in. Nice comparison to the almighty ( Laughing ) NATO and their not so rapid forces.

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    Post  nomadski 08/01/22, 12:33 am



    Glad to see that CSTO , stationing forces in important locations , making outside intervention very difficult . Also by not getting involved in domestic power play , and taking sides in this civil disturbances , they retain a relationship with different communities . Still no hard facts about outside intervention , by supply of weapons or money . Only propaganda and " inspiration " from outside ! Still , this intervention is justified on the basis of deteriorating security situation . However entrance to it should be extremely careful and not rushed .

    No time now to talk about ( our ) national preferences for this or that leader or group . Or imposition of ( our ) political demands . These are domestic issues that need resolution on long term basis . If figures of 20000 armed men are true , and overtaking of Airport an inside job , then this points to domestic situation of large proportions of a deep rooted nature . Here a military solution , using a large sledge Hammer , to crack a very large nut , is possible . However the consequences for the Hammer are just as serious as the nut , in the long term .

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    Post  ALAMO 08/01/22, 12:39 am

    Hole wrote:
    It took the russian armed forces less then 24 hours to assemble a multi-national (sort of) force and bring them in. Nice comparison to the almighty ( Laughing ) NATO and their not so rapid forces.

    And this is a part that makes the biggest butthurt, in real. Clashing the real possibilities with the propaganda material they deliver ...

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