Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #3

They are laughing at you?

I guess it is because they are so rich and powerful that they can do what they like... but why do you think Covid makes any difference... the rich and powerful have always been able to do things we the masses could not.

And Vann... a virus is not a marathon... it does not give a shit if you are an olympic athlete in great shape or a slob whose only exercise every day is getting the newspaper...

If there was any link between physical fitness and what Covid does to you then Oscar Dela houer or what ever the **** his name is proves everyone is going to die because of Covid because he was vaccinated.

But the evidence we have is that 99% of the people with covid in hospital didn't get vaccinated... getting vaccinated is no magical guarantee you will live forever, but it makes it very unlikely it will kill you.

Don't take the vaccine... take your chances... it is your life to risk...

They treat the public as total retards. LA County has no way to defend a brazen violation of the rules they impose on the peasants.
Whether it is televised or not is irrelevant.

They have sex island retreats where friends are invited to have sex with minors... do you honestly expect them to care about wearing masks... except those required for their Illuminati rituals of course....

I think it is important for all Americans that I don't know and don't give a damn about that they do not get vaccinated... it is a total con. Don't wear masks either and certainly don't go to see your doctor if you have flu like symptoms.

For the Americans I do give a shit about, ignore the above paragraph... masks are to protect you and the people around you... you might have covid and be infectious before you get any symptoms so washing your hands and covering your mouth and nose will stop you from infecting others and reduce the chance of other infecting you when out in public. Vaccinations are an important thing you can do to protect yourself and your family and friends. Don't force or bully anyone into wearing masks or getting vaccinated because you can't force them to do it and if you try to bully them often the reaction you will get is the opposite of what you want... and what you want is for them to be safe.

This is an excellent opportunity for peoples rights to get rid of a lot of stupid assholes...

The secretary of state of florida and his governor are clearly saying.

Politicians controlled by Pfizer and part of the conspiracy to put chips in peoples heads via the vaccine...

-Washington DC is LYING since the pandemic began.

Politicians in one part of a country saying you can't trust polticians in another part of the same country... you believe one but not the other?

Do any politicians in the US have a track record of telling the truth?

-Vaccines are not everything. you listending that garryb?
- The liberals are using a fear campaign ,to force population into vaccination.

Vaccines are the only method people can choose to do that will dramatically lower their risk of death from this virus.

Republicans will obviously not be able to say vaccines are the best solution because the liberals have said that and everyone knows the liberals are wrong, so I guess the Republicans will say god will save us perhaps?

- De Santis also told the vaccines are not as great , as the democrats want people to believe ,

But surely Vaccines are perfect because Covid is just normal flu and the people they claim are dying from covid are actually dying from other stuff so the vaccines are not failing because it is all bullshit right?

Every other vaccine in the past ,took decades to be released into the public ,including during other pandemics.. but today they just skipped all that , and is now valid to release a vaccine in just 3 months of study. Rolling Eyes to vaccinate all world population.. what could go wrong garryb ?

But Covid is just the flu which has been around for a long time, so they have had plenty of time to develop vaccines... Russia has about 5 including one for animals...

What more evidence Garryb you need , when top states in US ,their governors , are clearly saying ,the federal government are LYING the population with this pandemic ? What else you need garryb?
are you that blind ?

But California ex governor Arnold Schwarzenegger says you should get vaccinated...

Now you made me laugh but yes keep on drinking the cool-aid Gary Laughing

Take the vaccine... take your chances... it is your life to risk...

Cool aid? I get no money from any vaccine developing company.

Think about these words for one second..."vaccine resistant strain".

The fundamental problem with world wide virus outbreaks is that the virus goes through a lot of different types of bodies and gets experience and of course natural selection can kill off some strains, while the stronger strains take over the spread.

Those that are not vaccinated can not cause a vaccine resistant strain - it's impossible. There is no vaccine in my body so the virus can not mutate from me into a vaccine resistant virus. It can only do that from the vaccinated.

Viruses don't replicate perfectly... people who don't get flu vaccinated can still get flu every single year... getting it once means you are vulnerable to getting it... which means it is quite likely you are exposed multiple times and each of those exposures will likely be to different people probably carrying different strains... some of which even vaccinated people might not be safe from.

Large portions of the population refusing to get vaccinated is what creates vaccine resistant variants of viruses because the strains that dominate the unvaccinated portion of the population continue to develop and change to the population they occupy.

Antibiotic resistant bacteria can not develop because I did not use any antibiotic - it can only develop as result of over use of antibiotics.

Next time you need a medical procedure you tell the doctor you don't need antibiotics... you will just risk infection because anti biotic resistant bacteria are far more dangerous than normal bacteria right?

Actually the most common cause of antibiotic resistant bacteria is people being prescribed a course of antibiotics who stop taking them when they start feeling better so rather than wiping out the bacteria you are leaving some alive that can acquire a resistance to the drug that wiped out most of the bacteria but not all.

Normal bacteria has done an excellent job through the millennia keeping the human population numbers in check... has changed dramatically with the introduction of antibiotics but there are other options too, but I suspect the rise of the internet where people think they know better and can make their own informed decisions can make their own choices.

But guess what the really funny thing is... you claim I am a cool aide addict... but those adverts on TV and the internet telling you that this Asthma medication might be right for you... why don't you advise your doctor because he is a fucking moron and you are the genius because you watched an advert paid by a pharma company you wont trust a vaccine... but of course their adverts don't effect you... you are smart and can use logic and reason and their facts to prove they are right and your doctor is wrong.

But now, we need to look at NEW deaths (not ones from late 2020n etc). It is clear that statistically vaxed people are just as likely to die "from any reason within x days of a Covid test" (ie the official phrase) as unvaxed.

Why?

The people who died previously unvaccinated would still die if they choose not to vaccinate so they should still count.

It is clear that statistically vaxed people are just as likely to die "from any reason within x days of a Covid test" (ie the official phrase) as unvaxed.

People dying is not the issue... people hospitalised and dying from covid are relevant... some old codger who is 93 with a bad heart who dies and does not have covid is not important in this equation, what we are interested in is not who dies and who doesn't, but whether people who are vaccinated still get hospitalised and die.

If there is no correlation between vaccinations and covid deaths then I agree that vaccinations are a waste of time.

New Zealand stats show about 1 million vaccinated for one death, and less than 5,000 people who had covid of which 26 people died.

The stats are pretty clear to me.

I was actually quite surprised at that. But the stats were from the British and Israeli govts no less.

How about before leaping to conclusions that you provide the actual stats you are using and their actual source.

My view was always "old/weak people should have it, healthy people should not".

People on this forum have made claims about people dying from vaccination as evidence that vaccination is the last option they would want to choose... they would rather bathe in a tub of sheep dip apparently... well how about the deaths of people outside the old and weak range from Covid... doesn't that suggest than it could kill just anyone... or were all the healthcare workers killed by this virus old and weak too?

Finally it is basic established fact acc to the med Establishment that healthy people are less liable to get ill with Covid than slobs with underlying conditions. M aybe not marathon running ability. But a fatso will fare worse than a fitness fanatic.

Physical fitness is not protection from any virus or disease... there are still countries on this planet you can't visit without having Malaria shots first.... what country waives those requirements for its athletes?

Here's some random stats.
Around 80% of adult Brits are supposedly Covid vaxxed BTW

Did you read it?

Specifically this bit?

The summary data presented in this chapter record the total number of COVID-19 cases, COVID-19 related acute hospital admissions and confirmed COVID-19 deaths by their vaccination status and does not assess the effectiveness of the vaccine or whether the vaccine has worked in these individuals. The latter requires a careful examination of each case to explore possible reasons, which could be related to the test, virus or the person (e.g. pre-existing conditions).

Or perhaps this:

From the 29 December 2020 to 01 September 2021, 298 individuals tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 by PCR more than 14 days after receiving their second dose of COVID-19 vaccine and subsequently died with COVID-19 recorded as an underlying or contributory cause of death. This equates to 0.009% of those who have received two doses of COVID-19 vaccines and is a significantly lower COVID-19 death rate than the pre-vaccination period.

Police started to use rubber bullets against the protesters.

Real bullets for a real solution... they are being called nazis anyway... why not live up to expectations?

People are so smug in their delusions that "conspiracies" are impossible.

Of course it makes sense that my government wants to kill me by suggesting I get a vaccine.

Our Vaccines are already all paid for so why the **** should Pfizer care if no one in New Zealand gets a jab?

They already made their money.

The thing about a conspiracy theory is that there needs to be a conspiracy... and Bill Gates wanting to take over the world just does not cut it.

So how are the statistics credible if the flu is not recorded in them
at all? Maybe the smug people don't want to know, but I want to know if the flu and Covid combine to become a more lethal configuration.

Have never heard of viruses combining, and I think it would be rather unlikely. One virus killing someone when they have been weakened by another virus or bacteria makes sense, but actively working together...

No , but you Sir , you have a very strong track record of supporting the Liberals and their media crap , like CNN when it comes to their propaganda about vaccines..

I don't even watch New Zealand news let alone American or British shit.

You on the other hand are their perfect little poster child... how is Greta?

So how can you be so naive , so flawed judgement , into still saying those vaccines are safe to take ?

Blah blah blah.... this parachute might not be 100% guaranteed to save you life so when you jump out of the burning plane perhaps take a moment to think about whether you want to take that parachute because of the 0.001% chance it might not work anyway...

This is playing Russian roulette with a pistol with a hundreds of bullets.. that even thought the majority of people will be fine , those in the unlucky side ,even when they are minority ,their numbers cannot be ignored.

Russian roulette is a British invention intended to be a slur on their hated enemy Russia... you are immersed in western propaganda and don't even recognise it when you deploy their attacks yourself.

But with strong suspicion that numbers can be way higher ,because only 1% of cases reported.

Another useful tool... my numbers don't add up or make sense but you can trust that the numbers supporting my argument are a serious underestimate based on enemy propaganda and the numbers that show my argument to be wrong are seriously inflated beyond all reality.

One in a million is way worse odds for death than 26 in 5,000.... NOT.

No, that's completely false , there are certified medicine ,from decades in hospitals ,drugs treatment
that works very well against the virus, and save 95% of people that get covid according to doctors..

So Trumps' injecting cleaning fluid and sheep dip is legit and Vaccines are evil and will kill you...

This is why i said , that atheist , are far more dangerous for society ,that religious fanatics christians..
because religious fanatics , follow blindly their leaders ,and the bible, but this things very rarely affect
the society operations. but atheist that blindly follow their authorities institutions ,this are the people
that ruins entire nations

But the definition of an athiest is someone that does not follow, and a religious fanatic is something that desperately needs to follow to be a part of something and will do anything to be part of the gang...

Yes ,and he is the one also saying "**** your freedom " , in open tv. He made his fortune , thanks to hollywood that is controlled by the cancel culture liberals ,that you support with their vaccines.

What freedom... freedom to die because you hear on the internet that vaccines are all poison because one company fucked up?

He made his fortune so he has to follow x line.... sounds like you only think freedom is to agree with you, he is an independent person with his own thoughts and views just like me, but we are cool aide drinker athiests that follow everything our government tells us... seems to me you are a spoiled little western brat that thinks opposing everything his government tells him makes him right...

Don't get vaccinated... what ever happens you know you will always have that right to remain silent.

So is natural that he will support anything , to keep his business going. for money he will say anything.

He made enormous amounts of money as an actor and as a politician I suspect he will get a wonderful pension and never have to pay for health care again in his life... and considering all the shit he probably injected himself with how much longer is that going to be.

This will probably cost him money and cost business for him... but he is saying it anyway... like Assange and Snowden.

you see the evil thinking of people ,behind those that authorize the vaccines.

First rule of the internet is that any discussion goes on long enough and someone will compare the actions of their enemy to either Fascists or Nazis...

How often in this thread has Australia been called nazis???

By people who have no fucking idea what a nazi even is.

Blow-dart it into them!’ Outrage as FDA employee caught saying African-Americans should be vaccinated against their will

Hilarious... this guy who thinks vaccines will save lives wants to save the lives of black americans even if they don't want to be saved and so lets call him a nazi...

Is that what happened in WWII... Hitler wasn't evil... he was just misunderstood... all those tens of millions of people murdered was because the German Nazis had such big hearts.

The irony is that if that guy was a nazi it would be gas chambers or banning vaccines for blacks that he would be suggesting.

But lets not let rational common sense get in the way of a good internet rant right?

What about that Garryb? this is the crap that you sponsor and support???
Drone vaccine darts on population ??

**** darts... shooting them in the head with real bullets is obviously the best solution... it would stop Covid in its tracks.

You keep fucking going on about what I say and what I want to happen and you are totally wrong.

Do not get vaccinated Vann. Anyone who does not want a vaccine should never be forced to have it.

Of course unvaccinated people need to be walled up in their homes to stop the virus spreading and evolving amongst the unvaccinated, but every choice in life has consequences.

If Black Americans refuse to get vaccinated then a lot of them are going to die... not my wish, but not my problem either.

Had a British nurse on TV the other night saying all the new covid patients they are admitting are all asking for the covid jab but of course by then it is too late... perhaps you need to visit and tell them they are better off dying of covid than getting a wee bit sick and then recovering if they got vaccinated.

Pay close attention to this Garryb , what real doctors in federal institutions ,says , and how the
statistics are being manipulated , to hide the side effects and deaths of people that takes the shot.

It is so cute you think I watch the shit you post Vann... go to your local library and look up the boy who cried wolf...

This is Evil of the highest level ,you have the FDA , the CDC ,you have the CDC ,
that are both supposed to be protecting us

Hahahaha.... aren't the FDA the same guys that rubber stamped the idea that if there is less than one teaspoon of sugar per serve that companies can label that food as sugar free.... so a product like Tic Tacs which is almost 100% sugar with a bit of colouring and flavouring can be sold with a sugar free label on it.

Yeah... they clearly want to protect the consumer and obviously do not take bribes from the companies they are regulating....

Are you enjoying that cool aide... more sugar?

because i do care about the billions of innocent people in the world ,who knows nothing of this western evil plans ,to get rid of large parts of population ,and that are being forced to take this vaccines.

Who is getting forced to take vaccines? Find a different job, or get the vaccine... freedom of choice does not mean all choices will be easy.

People should grab those videos and reupload them again if deleted , by the nazi liberals social media. and by the way.. RT.com days seems are now over , President Biden already is pushing for
sanctions on RT editor Margarita simoyan and the reasons for this new move , likely will be for justifying taking down RT from youtube and even from all social media ,including the website.
so if RT taken down , it will be for exposing the criminal vaccines ,the west are pushing in world population.

It is a dot com address, so America owns it... but there is no reason they couldn't just continue at RT.ru and have a multilingual version located right there.... in fact they could start their own video hosting service there away from the control of Youtube and Twitter and Face book...

Funny how it takes the US to do something stupid before Russia does something in their interests... it wasn't until the US threatened serious sanctions and limiting Russian access to US dollars before they dropped the dollar in trading and their holdings of US debt. It took the US to force EU sanctions before Russia started to improve trade relations with China... something Russia should have done decades ago.

a warning to people taking pfizer shot.
NCAA Athlete Experienced Myocarditis After The Second COVID-19 Vaccine! #GlobalWarming be damned!

More likely the doping illegal drug he was taking and the masking drugs he was taking to hide the fact that he was doping in the first place created a chemical cocktail that is hard to anticipate when adding vaccines and such things...

Ohh no... wont be able to play any more... sounds like you should make an internet video and put it on line and then get a lawyer so you can sue the big rich vaccine company for the millions of dollars you missed out on... yeah... different flavour... but cool aide... have quite a range.