Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #3

Mir wrote:

But now it seems that some people believe that Big Pharma is the key to good health

Yep...sadly Garryb is a perfect example of the wave ,that general society is.  This is why i was saying
the most dangerous thing , by far ,that exist in this planet  is human ignorance.  It is human ignorance and human stupidity which is ignorance on steroids ,what makes people to blindly follow any thing ,without using their logic or common sense.  The most common form of ignorance is the one that follows blindly their major institutions , in politics , in religion , in science , in media , is all the same  shit..  you can't blindly trust in major institutions everything they claim  , because those institutions are the ones that those evil and super rich people targets to influence first.  

So is kind of funny that Garryb that portray himself as "anti liberal"  ,but have no problem to follows to the letter their policies , on this pandemic ,which are the ones pushing for this you can't live without are genetical experiments , that are banning medicine that effectively stop the virus from spreading        not under their control and that use their media and bribed scientist and doctors ,to push for poison crap in all population.  

This is about common sense , nothing more and nothing else.. if a terrorist advertise you something , and force you to take it , the common sense for those that have any ,should raise suspicion and alarm ,and need to stay away from whatever crap any institution that terrorist factions controls ,wants population to take.

Garryb is fully aware of genetical modified food crap ,that the FDA promotes on population ,
he is aware too of anglo system media propaganda.. well aware of anglo system Alqaeda terrorism , and their biological criminal experiments in their own civilian population ,which i posted evidence of it..  he also aware how the anglo west controls major international organizations ,as they have been using them to ban Russia from the olympics , and block russia vaccines ,that appears to work from the world. Still somehow , he manage to blindly trust in the western system promoted vaccines.
as if their past record and history of crime and terrorism no longer counts.      

in more news..

More problems for the poisonous genetical crap ,that liberals in the west promotes , Russia is announcing a covid 19 medicine that stop the virus , by stopping its reproduction..

The trial with Mir-19, the Russian drug that slows the growth of the coronavirus in the body, is progressing

https://newsbeezer.com/mexicoeng/the-trial-with-mir-19-the-russian-drug-that-slows-the-growth-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-body-is-progressing/

https://newsbeezer.com/mexicoeng/the-trial-with-mir-19-the-russian-drug-that-slows-the-growth-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-body-is-progressing/

Wondering what kind of excuse garryb will have for people using medicine ,of a completely safe non intrusive medicine , with no secondary effects ,that effectively kills the virus ,instead of using an intrusive genetical poison ,that only last 6 months ,need to be taken yearly ,does not work and have injured hundreds of thousands and killed 50k+ .and have been returned to the pharma in the millions their shipments for contamination and quality controls.

Because prevention of a vaccination that stops the virus spreading could eliminate the virus from the list of the worlds problems for good, while having a drug to treat the virus is excellent but it is also the US way of doing things... don't prevent with vaccinations, treat with drugs to get a forever income for.

I would say both are important.

They have a very long list but the WMD is arguably one of the biggest -but for me personally the covid scam is by far the winner in that category.

So Covid that has killed millions of people is more of a scam than WMDs that were searched for and proven to have not existed... how many Iraqis do you think were killed by that scam? More than the 4.7 million killed? And of course it isn't over yet.

Mir wrote:

franco wrote:Actually the flu is still killing people just at a much lower rate... suspect masks, social distancing and better hygiene a factor.

https://www.worldometers.info/

This year only around 360 000 have so far died of the flu...a vast number less than your usual annual deaths.

One should ask why is the figure so much less than previous years - you argue that masks and all the rest is the reason, and it could be a valid argument BUT it is clear from how figures are manipulated to feed the covid fear factor that they actually included the vast majority of flu deaths as covid deaths. You may not believe that but you can consider the following:


A pulmonary disease doctor named Andre Dias petitioned a Lisbon court to provide verified COVID-19 mortality data.

According to the ruling the number of verified COVID-19 deaths from January 2020 to April 2021 is only 152, and not around 17,000 as claimed by government ministries.

These 152 COVID deaths in Portugal was from January 1, 2020, to April 18, 2021.

All the “others” died for various reasons, although their PCR test was positive.

This - I believe - is a universal "trend" when it comes to covid deaths - BUT even so it is no more than the normal death rate.

That's correct.. the manipulation of covid19 statistics..  And this is not told by me ,but by Doctors ,in a conference ,right when covid19 pandemic was starting , they exposed the fraud of covid19 deaths in america. that the CDC are pressuring hospitals directors ,and funeral services to write inn, in every death certificate , covid19 death ,  whenever that is possible.. and to not bother with authopsy ,to reveal the real cause of the death.

I suppose Garryb had a chance to see what real doctors who own private clinics in california ,
told about this topic..

How the Federal Government in US is manipulating statistics , to make covid19 much worse than what really is.  



but he continue behaving as if those doctors don't exist and the other endless list of doctors ,
that have already said ,this genetical vaccines designed for control of society ,and with the option
to murder millions of their choice later , whenever they want it.

this is old topic ,this criminal fraud , of manipulating the numbers in a major emergency pandemic was exposed , during the first 6 months of the pandemic. and he knows this..
but because he is hates to any integrity and honesty , and enjoys deceiving people , for reasons i can't understand , he pretends that the numbers , their lovely liberals controlled institutions in the west give them are accurate but they are not.  

He also conventiently ignores the norway incident ,where 30% of those vaccinated in a health care center died. and even nurses who worked there got serious side effects and required hospitalizations ,after getting the pfizer shot . This information came from nothing less than the owner of the clinic.
and was reported at RT.com.

So this incident ,combined with japan health industry , lucky findings of 1.6 millions contaminated moderna shots under close inspection and that returned them. proof beyond doubt.

That anglo western vaccines can be as dangerous , as poison or metalic substances in
your veins.. and can wipe out people in any place , in an enourmously massive casualty rate.
30% of people killed in a clinic and 1,8 millions infested vaccines discovered not by moderna ,but by japan , is not a small thing Garryb.  not a small thing..  but like i said, i could care less garryb ,if you want to drink acid , you can do it , to your heart content , it will not make me lose a sleep a night.

i only post here , to do my own contribution , to try educate people ,how dangerous the vaccines can be.. that is a huge mistake , to calculate its safety , by adding all numbers world wide , because there is a very serious disparity in performance of those vaccines ,from place to place..

in some places there are "perfect record"  or at least media don't report anything, and in other places is a genocide of people.. up to 30% mortality rate in some places. Garryb also choose to ignore the many doctors , that their jobs is to authorize this vaccines in people like him ,who have spoken against this killer shots..  So go ahead , but you convince no one in this forum , you are actually alone and isolated in your defense of this dangerous genetical experiments.

One should ask why is the figure so much less than previous years - you argue that masks and all the rest is the reason, and it could be a valid argument BUT it is clear from how figures are manipulated to feed the covid fear factor that they actually included the vast majority of flu deaths as covid deaths.

So that is how your mind works... problem... sensible solution... there has to be government corruption and conspiracy too.

Governments don't get extra brownie points for the number of covid deaths they have... there is no advantage to boosting or faking numbers in that regard...

Here in New Zealand even though we had a month or two of lockdowns initially last year and a couple of weeks lockdown recently, most people are using hand sanitisers in every shop and are thinking more about germs and how they spread.

A pulmonary disease doctor named Andre Dias petitioned a Lisbon court to provide verified COVID-19 mortality data.

According to the ruling the number of verified COVID-19 deaths from January 2020 to April 2021 is only 152, and not around 17,000 as claimed by government ministries.

These 152 COVID deaths in Portugal was from January 1, 2020, to April 18, 2021.

All the “others” died for various reasons, although their PCR test was positive.

This - I believe - is a universal "trend" when it comes to covid deaths - BUT even so it is no more than the normal death rate.

So assuming everything you say is true 152 sounds incredibly low for such a large population even for normal flu... it is amusing you think people who died with multiple causes suddenly stop being covid deaths... that is very selective of you... sounds like you are the one manipulating the numbers in fact... these deaths will be a combination of factors, all of which likely contributed to their deaths, why ignore Covid as a factor?

If everyone dying of cancer gets hit by a bus and cancer deaths suddenly plummet, or the law changes and assisted suicide becomes legal and all of a sudden no one dies from Cancer... they all top themselves... does that mean cancer is no longer a problem... can you honestly say cancer has been eliminated as a threat to society based on that?

Might come as a shock but people in New Zealand still have sniffles and the flu is not gone here, despite all the measures...

Said viruses tend to 'become less virulent as they circulate' through population
Professor Whitty says all schoolchildren will come into contact with Covid

They do and they don't... the flu will evolve into different varieties and you might become very resistant to the local variety... to the point of becoming totally immune to its negative effects, but the varieties of the flu in other regions will evolve differently and will almost become different viruses that your immunity wont protect you from... that is why vaccines are needed to stop it from diversifying and evolving.

I don't think Ebola or Marburg hemorrhagic fevers will become nicer as they circulate...

I'm surprised I thought that by now most of you knew that hospitals are paid more for Medicare patients confirmed or presumed to have coronavirus.
This has been widely known since day one of the pandemic.

That is just American corruption... the fact that you think that applies in the rest of the world and that everyone is so cold and manipulative is interesting.

Still no information about interaction of the flu virus with Covid. As expected.

Most countries are probably busy focussing on Covid... and their second priority would probably be all the people who were told they need scans to check for cancer but now all available beds and resources are for covid patients so people with lumps have to wait... likely a death sentence for many because people can't be bothered to get vaccinated so the rest of the world needs to pay for their hospital bed to be ready for them when they need it...

I am sure the cancer patients will understand...

Mir wrote:

That is just American corruption... the fact that you think that applies in the rest of the world and that everyone is so cold and manipulative is interesting.

They all drink from the same trough in the West. Why do you think a vaccine like Sputnik V is not recognized (approved) in our countries whist all studies have shown it to be the safest by far?

Said viruses tend to 'become less virulent as they circulate' through population

This is ancient news for any virologists who has any credibility. Luc Montagnier is a Nobel Prize winner for his work on HIV - go look what he has to say of this scam.

Dont waste too much time with Garryb. He is not stupid , he is simply a liar , with a clear agenda to disinform.

NewZealand ,"incentive" to lie ,their covid19 numbers , are the same ones that every other european nation have , to follow American sanctions ,and European union sanctions , no matter how ridiculous and bad are for their economy.  And new zealand is a colony of the anglo system ,just like Canada and australia , so they follow to the letter ,everything Americans demands them to do.

So that's their "incentive" , they don't want to become the next venezuela under sanctions , so they follow every demand of the anglo western system , this is exactly the reason why they can't use Russia vaccines in their country , they have been told not to do it .

Even the prime minister of new zealand got in trouble , for refusing to condemn China , because they were given that order , and demanded it , and was doing business with china , ignoring the anglo western war with them..  and the prime minister Jacinda Ardern was pressured to go back to reality ,
that New Zealand is not a sovereign country but a colony of washington DC.

So is great that Garry ,himself , told right here in this page of discussion..

quote mir :  I'm surprised I thought that by now most of you knew that hospitals are paid more for Medicare patients confirmed or presumed to have coronavirus.
This has been widely known since day one of the pandemic.

quote Garryb  : That is just American corruption... the fact that you think that applies in the rest of the world and that everyone is so cold and manipulative is interesting.

So is great that Garryb admit That american politics ,its federal government are corrupt ,including
with data manipulation of real covid deaths ,by doctors in hospitals..

the question is ,what makes him to think , this corruption do not extends to the pharma industry ?

if they pressure private clinics , private hospitals and doctors to cheat , to steal , to deceive and lie ,
when it comes to the pandemic , what makes GarryB to think ,this corruption did not show up , in their pharma industry too ?  if the anglo federal gov can influence their mainstream media , their social media , their entertainment industry , their high tech industry when they sanction nations , influence their military , NASA , what makes Garryb think. that Anglo pharma industry is the only place in the west ,that can't be touched or influenced by corrupt people in power in the west?  

More problems for you Garryb to explain, go and hide and pretend it doesn't exist.

 former pfizer vice president , told..  

Pfizer’s vaccine studies are based on FRAUD and put lives in danger, warns former Pfizer vice president

Dr. Michael Yeadon, the former vice president and scientific director for Pfizer, has come forward with evidence that widespread SCIENCE FRAUD was used in the 2020 race for a coronavirus vaccine.

In pursuit of speedy regulatory approval, Pfizer abandoned all scientific integrity. The study design for new mRNA injections is based on fraudulent diagnostic protocols that manipulate data endpoints and conceal the short and long-term adverse events inflicted by their vaccines.

Dr. Yeadon is joined by German lung specialist, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg. The two brave doctors have filed an urgent application with the European Medicine Agency, calling out the BioNtech/Pfizer vaccine study because it’s based on FRAUD.

hahahaha .. poor Garryb.. the more he defend the poisonous vaccines ,the more ridiculous will be for him to explain this contradictions.. how can his vaccines be so great , when even the top people of those companies he worship as god , have exposed the fraud .      

So can anyone please explain me , how can Garryb claim we can trust in the western pharma industry ,when even people who work there say ,there is massive fraud in the way those experimental vaccines shots studies and design were done  and that put the lives of people in
danger?  


Because whenever Garryb is confronted with facts.. of people who works either in pharma industry , doctors who work authorizing the experimental poison he love and defends ,and whenever world renowned scientist from europe and russia ,claims those vaccines he love are dangerous and kill people ,this is his typical consistent behavior when facing facts ,that contradicts the propaganda
he advertise in forums.

 

To behave like it doesn't exist any evidence , of how fraudulent are the vaccines he advertise and promote. And the massive corruption , in the way they are being pushed into the population , including massive corruption with the statistics , the real performance of those vaccines..
Pfizer and moderna , not even have a form ,to count people who die , consequence of their vaccine.     they always blame people who die hours after they get their poison , to their health , as an "allergic reaction".  So anyone who dies , after getting a bullet in the head , could also be counted as an allergic reaction to the bullet..  

Garryb behaves like western media corrupt people , but they could be understood , they are paid very well for lying and deceiving population . i don't think anyone is paying garryb to become an actor and deceive people in forums but you can't never said never .  

This is the major huge difference between Garryb and me , i backup everything with facts , things that do happened , and can be verified did happened. Garryb in the other hand backup his
claims with nothing. other than official numbers figures, that already he agreed in the forums is very corrupt in the west , and " don't apply to new zealand" because is a "different country and "can't be influenced/coerced to follow by the west"

Even the prime minister of new zealand got in trouble , for refusing to condemn China , because they were given that order , and demanded it , and was doing business with china , ignoring the anglo western war with them.. and the prime minister Jacinda Ardern was pressured to go back to reality ,
that New Zealand is not a sovereign country but a colony of washington DC.

So is great that Garry ,himself , told right here in this page of discussion..

The fact that New Zealand is keeping its relations with China civil and are not criticising them or making demands that they do this or that shows we are no longer a colony.

We make our own decisions.

All the rest of the shit you post is clearly butt hurt... you should be enjoying being in the Matrix because for you there is no escape... can you hear that helicopter outside... don't look.... but I can tell you it is black... and it is watching you and listening to you and monitoring everything you type....

GarryB wrote:
We make our own decisions.

hahaha..

Garryb is truly detached from reality , indeed (kvs)  ,we both agree..

New zealand is a puppet colony state of america , and this is reason they have rejected sputnik vaccines from russia , and the only option there are american poisonous crap.  Chinese were also fully available everywhere in asia , but she choose american ones.. how coincidence?

and when are you going to send me , those black hawk choppers , to scare me..  

obviously you are very delusional person , living in a world of fantasy .

that the west never do anything wrong , is not corrupt , not allied to terrorism , don't influence
their media , western poisonous vaccines are very safe , "all doctors support it" ,and the anglo corruption in west don't influence their pharma industry.  and they are not censoring RT , to not be exposed for fraud with their genetical experiments on human population  


in other news.  this is big ...

the censorship against Russian media is already starting..
because RT is the only media in the world , available in the west ,that was challenging
the official western covid narrative.  is a matter of days or weeks ,they will shutdown youtube channel of RT  


YouTube deletes 2 channels of RT’s sister project RT DE with 600K subscribers over alleged community guidelines violation

https://www.rt.com/news/536068-rt-de-youtube-channel-deleted/

clock is ticking.. anyone that challenge the fake narrative about western genetical experiments ,that garryb sponsor , is censored or their media blocked..