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    Post  Vann7 Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:19 pm

    University of Oxford release a report that shows that pfizer and moderna have worse
    problems with Thrombosis (blood cloth in the brain) than aztraseneca.  Shocked   This is a big one ..



    So the university of oxford , is saying that Garryb safe vaccines are not so safe as he claimed ,
    because in the past they were and are producing lots of cases of very serious adverse effects ,that can kill people and have killed many of them .

    they british in the video is saying also ,the United kingdom is falsifying the covid19 numbers infested,
    artificially inflating them but when people vaccinated die ,they don't report it.  Neutral    ,so this is double fraud , deceive population with the real number of infections of covid19 , inflated numbers to justify
    forced vaccination , and if that was not enough , they also not reporting at all , the serious adverse effects or deaths from the vaccines they promoting.

    here more "safe vaccines" news .
    cincinati young student death just 24 hours, after taking the johnson and johnson vaccine. No
    And interestingly is also to know the source of the report , even pro NATO media
    is not hidden anymore how dangerous are anglo pharma emergency covid vaccines .



    This can't be coincidence , why such a bad luck all western anglo vaccines? science doesn't change.
    What the west is doing , that makes their vaccine so unpredictable the results ? genetical engineering? Trying to play GOD? or it is simply ,they though that their depopulation project
    was going to have major cover up ,from western big corporate media.. Televisa news is a mexican media , that is closely aligned with NBC media empire ,even CNN is not hiding this deaths .
    perhaps no point to hide something so visible in all news.

    use the auto translate option spanish - english..  will update again when RT english report comes
    with the english version.

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    Post  Vann7 Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:19 pm



    and youtube censored the video.. lol1

    seems they don't like any information that shows anglo pharma industry in a bad light. Rolling Eyes


    This is why the statistics are manipulated of the real effective numbers and safety of western
    vaccines . there is a very powerful social media machine covering their serious problems with
    their vaccines.



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    Post  Vann7 Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:24 pm

    I have a question.. why the west can't produce a 100% safe vaccine ,that have 0% chance of killing people ? why the anglo pharma industry have so bad luck ,with blood clot , and brain injury and require hospitalization in a dozen or so per thousand of vaccinations? is this is coincidence
    that than 4 of 4 anglo pharma companies are having so similar issues ?

    -moderna was paralized in 200 hospitals in california for secondary serious effects.
    -pfizer was killing at times in a few places with as high of 30% of those vaccinated in some seniors care centers.?
    -why there are reports of people getting covid19 ,a day after the vaccination ? is there are a living virus in anglo vaccines?
    -why is johson and johson having so much problems too ,with exactly the same things ,blod clot and heart attacks>?
    -why aztraseneca exactly the same thing ?

    are this really different vaccines as they claim ? or they all use similar ingredients ,that turns into
    a quick death in a few hundreds from thousands vaccinated.

    There have to be something really wrong with western pharma industry , like some major mistake ,that everyone repeats again and again when building vaccines?

    pfizer ,moderna ,aztraseneca ,jonhson and johson , which one have not killed people or sufferent major injuries>?  if this is really bad luck ?  i can't understand why the west have so much bad
    luck , with their vaccines.


    meanwhile Russia reported their results after 3.8 millions of Russian citizens vaccinated in russia.
    their efficiency is now 97% , with zero deaths and zero major adverse effects..
    is russia lying ?  mexico also reports , are near identical to the russian one. their results coincide
    with the russian ones.

    chinese vaccine also are showing major success . for me not killing anyone , and not injuring anyone , with just 50% chance to defeat the virus is very good , much better than what pfizer ,moderna ,johson and johson ,aztrazeneca promotes  up to 95% efficiency but with hundreds if not thousands of deaths.. depending on the source you look.

    One of the best protection rates’: Sputnik V maker reports over 97% efficacy after 3.8 million vaccinations

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    The Russian Covid-19 vaccine has an even higher efficacy rate than previously reported in the Lancet journal, its developer has said after crunching infection data from the domestic immunization campaign.
    Between December 2020 and March 2021, 3.8 million Russians received both shots of the Sputnik V vaccine, it’s maker, the Gamaleya Research Institute of Epidemiology and Microbiology, reported on Monday. Of those, only 0.027% became infected with the disease, if counted starting from the 35th day after receiving the first injection. This compares to a 1.1% percent incidence rate among the unvaccinated adult population over the same period.



    The credit for this excellent vaccine industry in Russia ,goes to the soviet union very strong education system.. they not only gave Russia the foundations for a strong space program , but also for a pharma industry too. and other things.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:06 am

    But the west is superior because they will make a bigger profit and most of the people that will die will be old and or frail and a burden to the western community anyway.

    From a western managers point of view it is all good, and for Wallstreet investment companies like Goldman Sachs, the ongoing repeated vaccinations required every year to maintain immunity is a treatment rather than a cure which makes good business sense... as more and more people submit to vaccines they can gradually increase the price...

    For Russia they want people working travelling to make stuff so a cure is what they need... America has all its stuff made in China so hedge fund managers and Wallstreet money manipulators don't need to leave their bubbles... so ongoing vaccinations and travel restrictions are the best income generator and sustainer.
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    Post  Sujoy Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:00 pm

    Is there any other country in the world that is more vile, more disgusting than the U.S is?

    After securing its supply of Hydroxychloroquine during the first wave of covid pandemic from India, US is now blocking export of vaccine raw materials to India because India was supplying the vaccine to poor countries around the world.

    This move will also adversely affect millions of people in India because they too will no longer have access to a vaccine.

    https://scroll.in/latest/992648/indias-covid-vaccine-production-will-stop-in-weeks-unless-us-supplies-critical-components-report



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    Post  Sujoy Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:50 am

    The second wave has hit India hard and hundreds of people are now dead. But look at the choice of words of Yankee journalists to describe the cremations - "Stunning". The self-satisfactory glee of the commentariat at their worst hypotheses coming true is not even concealed in sombre semantics.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:50 am

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    Post  GarryB Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:02 am

    Is there any other country in the world that is more vile, more disgusting than the U.S is?

    They claim to have the best healthcare system in the world... and deny their own poor access to it...

    Yet they are the moral centre of human civilisation and are now bullying New Zealand because they think we are not being hard enough on telling China off about its human rights record...

    But they have money to the richest 1% in every country wants to get into their good books because as we all know the very richest people always shower those around them with money and valuables... NOT... that is how they remain rich... they can buy in bulk and demand great discounts....

    Yeah, don't get me started....

    You're saying

    You said the US was evil.... he was just saying Turkey and Israel are too... he is of course wrong because Turkey does not have the political or economic or military power to be worse than the US...
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    Post  kvs Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:24 am

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    US nutjob policy for the world to see. Mask wearing during a video conference. I guess Covid-19 virus particles can use
    electronic equipment and propagate through the internet.

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    Post  Hole Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:30 pm

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    Post  kvs Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:33 pm

    I hope I can get the J&J vaccine when I am finally forced to take it. Naturally being Canada, a foaming at the mouth NATzO member, I will
    never have the option of Sputnik V.

    Maybe they will not ban every vaccine other than Pfzier and Moderna in North America in the name of "safety".

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    Post  Vann7 Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:56 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    You said the US was evil.... he was just saying Turkey and Israel are too... he is of course wrong because Turkey does not have the political or economic or military power to be worse than the US...


    nope.. he was asking if there was a more evil nation that US , i told him Israel and turkey are far worse. in terms of evilness of their government ,they are . In US they need to hide their alliance ,with ISIS and Alqaeda because they know is major treason to their constitution to cooperate with international terrorism. Netanyahu don't bother hide it , and told openly he prefers isis in syria than assad. and it was Israel who openly evacuated ISIS and their kidnapped wives and children they got raping them, from southern syria . So jews elites and american zionist too ,and a very big part of their population too are teach from childhood to be very evil and racist and they don't hide it that much ,they actually feel proud about it..

    this is the level of evilness i talk about

    a Pro Israel american lobby told in front of a conference , " thanks God for ISIS ".



    So this are people who feel nothing for no one ,they have no love in live for anything other than
    their egos ,don't care about anyone .

    If Erdogan had the nukes of US , they will have given nukes to isis long time ago ,and wiped syria and later nuke europe too ,and russia. Erdogan's government and israel government are much worse
    than any government ever . this are people that use planes to bomb civilians women and children for decades . the turks are responsible for the armenian genocide ,that they crucified a million of armenians , in the most sick way possible , via bible crucifiction . and we know about the genocide only thanks to a nazi ambassador who witness it ,and felt sick and wrote a book about it ,that warned hitler how crazy was the ottoman sultan and that he was an enemy of civilized world.

    An ethnic wipe of billions will have happened if turkey or israel had the power of US and no one to challenge them.


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    Post  Vann7 Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:06 pm

    Texas woman who received J&J vaccine hospitalized with symptoms similar to blood clot cases that paused rollout

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    23 Apr, 2021.

    A woman in Texas who was administered the Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 shot is receiving medical treatment after exhibiting signs of potential blood clots, mirroring cases that prompted authorities to halt the vaccine’s use.
    A spokesperson for the Texas Department of State Health Services said on Thursday that the agency had been notified about the case by the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and Prevention, but was not provided with further details in order to protect the patient’s privacy.

    The rollout of the J&J vaccine was paused earlier this month after six women between the ages of 18 and 48 developed blood clots after receiving the shot. However, hundreds of doses had already been administered in Texas before the authorities halted its use.

    In the six reported cases, symptoms developed between six to 13 days after receiving the vaccine. One of the women died, while another was left in critical condition.

    The incident comes as the CDC is set to meet on Friday to discuss whether it is safe to resume the rollout.



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    Post  GarryB Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:02 pm

    nope.. he was asking if there was a more evil nation that US

    Turkey hasn't killed or made poor anywhere near the number the US has in the name of freedom or human rights... the level of evil makes little difference if they have no effect on the world.
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:53 am

    The US trying hard to maximise Russian defence sales in India Laughing

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:30 am

    JohninMK wrote:The US trying hard to maximise Russian defence sales in India  Laughing

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    It's their right at the end of the day. If they want more of the ol' vaccine for themselves first.

    India should have substituted its critical imports a little earlier. Anyway there must be elsewhere they can source them from.
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    Post  lyle6 Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:35 am

    JohninMK wrote:The US trying hard to maximise Russian defence sales in India  Laughing

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    To be fair the American government does have an obligation to its own people first. Its not their fault the Indians are so incompetent they fail to secure the their supply of valuable feedstocks by either developing the capability to manufacture said materials in house, or just securing contracts through other suppliers - it couldn't be just the US who manufactures vaccine components after all. The latter might involve them approaching China for business though, and I highly doubt the esteemed Indian leadership can stomach being seen approaching the hated Chinese for help. Whatever, its only their people doing the dying, but at least their dignity is intact right?
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:59 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    It's their right at the end of the day. If they want more of the ol' vaccine for themselves first.

    India should have substituted its critical imports a little earlier. Anyway there must be elsewhere they can source them from.

    I made no comment as to whether the US was within its rights to do this as clearly it is. Whilst India is refusing to export 5M doses of the AZ that it should have shipped to the UK by now, so its a bit of the pot calling the kettle black here.

    All I was trying to do was too, perhaps to subtly, point out that the action by one US Government department could very well sabotage the efforts of another, or the Law of Unintended Consequences.
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    Post  kvs Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:43 am

    JohninMK wrote:
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    It's their right at the end of the day. If they want more of the ol' vaccine for themselves first.

    India should have substituted its critical imports a little earlier. Anyway there must be elsewhere they can source them from.

    I made no comment as to whether the US was within its rights to do this as clearly it is. Whilst India is refusing to export 5M doses of the AZ that it should have shipped to the UK by now, so its a bit of the pot calling the kettle black here.

    All I was trying to do was too, perhaps to subtly, point out that the action by one US Government department could very well sabotage the efforts of another, or the Law of Unintended Consequences.

    International affairs are a lake predatory fish all trying to eat each other of form gangs for safety. Real cooperation is not there even if all of humanity is facing the same crisis.

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    Post  Vann7 Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:46 pm

    AstraZeneca on trial over vaccine-linked death case in Italy





    Takes Astrazeneca shot , gets Thrombosis/blood clot 7 days later . death in day 9.

    some interesting comments of people from that youtube video.
    people can verify by themselves the comments section , many times
    the most important and detailed information is reported in the discussion and not in any
    mainstream news ,that needs to verify the source of the info first before reporting anything.



    Darren Mason
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    I had my first vax 6wks ago the oxford one and i havent been right scince continually dizzy my daughter had to go to hospital twice with her jab and the wards were full of people with side effcts nothing being reported about it stay away from it plz i also now of 2 people who had heart attacks within 2wks of haveing the oxford jab both fit working lads


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    Just go on the MHRA website and put in Yellow Card Scheme;
    Astra Zeneka 548,495 adverse reactions and 627 deaths.
    Pfizer 143,034 " " " 334 "
    They also state that only about 10% of cases are being reported.


    J OTowner
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    I live in Florida. I personally know three people who have lost loved ones to the jab 5-36 hours after getting it, all dead from heart attacks. I don’t know a single person who knows anyone here who was so much as hospitalized for the virus, though most of us have been told that we’ve had it due to the crap PCR test.


    Yah Saves
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    People know that others are dropping dead after taking that vaccine. Why they continue to take it puzzles me.

    Soimosi Ioana
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    Brainwashed sheep


    Rob Manning
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    "The benefits outweigh the risks" .....Excuse me? If the risk is death then no they don't


    408Magenta
    1 day ago
    AZ has killed a good number of people already and injured who knows how many!!!


    Betsy Barnicle
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    Not AZ, but I know someone who's sister died at 53 of stroke after vax.

    Noturbusiness Notatall
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    I know of 5 ppl that had Covid. 1 with astma - he told me that it was like a light flu. 1 had no taste and smell for 20 days, that is all. 1 an elderly woman had it, it was like a cold. 2 took the vaccine and got pneumonia and almost died, it was the Pfizer "vaccine" , both living healthy and doing sports since I know them, non smokers. The guy that had no smell and taste drinks and smokes like a champ. Just putting it out there. I do not want to argue. I am taking no vaccine. Me personaly last year I went to protests among thousands of ppl, I was on the seaside with a lot of ppl all this without a mask. For over 1 year now walking outside with no mask. I am taking no poison. For over 2000 years humanity has existed with viruses and no vaccines. We are not dead. This is natural evolution. Since we have antibiotics we have resistant bacteria. When will ppl realise that you only need to live healthy and not take any medications, only in the worst of cases. I never took antibiotics.


    Betsy Barnicle
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    @Noturbusiness Notatall I know someone 92 who got covid, like a mild flu, doing great months later now. Yet I know a man whose 53 year old sister got the vaccine and died unexpectedly of a stroke.

    Betsy Barnicle
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    @J OTowner It was a coworker, and I didn't hear whether they did an autopsy. She'd been in a coma after the stroke, with massive brain damage on one side. Very traumatic since they thought they'd have to decide to end life support, but she died before that point.


    Kalina Phan
    1 day ago
    Meanwhile, Russia and China's vaccines have no report of deaths. Lol

    Vahid Al zubayedi
    1 day ago
    Australian government pushing for astrazaneca while people resisting it but health workers were forced to take it or lose their jobs. So much for democracy.


    Birger Jarl
    1 day ago
    That russian sputnik vaccine keep looking better


    John Athanasiou
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    Yet in Australia & so many other nations the health authorities still claim these AstraZeneca vaccines are "safe", even forcing citizens to take it or face consequences like being able to hold a job, being able to travel.
    Mind you, here in the west they also claim Putin is evil but forgot to look at themselves in the mirror....
    Thanks for reporting on this RT as our corrupt media here is mostly silent about these issues, except when it's ramming the vaccine message daily




    They sound like genuine people telling their experiences.
    Even if the vaccine is 95% "Safe" as pfizer claim , is not consolation for anyone
    if a family member or loved one , ends being in the unlucky ones in the 5% left ,that gets serious lifetime illness or death.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:26 am

    Isn't there a Russian saying that if there is a food shortage and a someone is handing out food then the food shortage is not that bad or something along those lines.

    Blaming India for expecting US companies to honour their contracts to sell materials to India is a bit rich, but then with bio labs all over the world I wonder why the US has been so badly caught out... isn't this something they should have been preparing for?

    US ships in their waters, and cutting off supplies of needed medicines, I can see America is going to be a real ally to India in their war on China...
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:20 am

    Vann7 wrote:They sound like genuine people telling their experiences.
    Even if the vaccine is 95% "Safe" as pfizer claim , is not consolation for anyone if a family member or loved one , ends being in the unlucky ones in the  5% left ,that gets serious lifetime illness or death.
    When looking at quotes like that we never hear from those who would have expected to die but didn't due to being vaccinated and in the UK that is a large number.

    Indeed, governments don't deal in individuals they deal with their populations, which is inevitably tough for some people. Its all down to risk analysis, they have to try to protect the largest number, in the end it is just different, but hopefully fewer, people who die.


    Just had my second AZ jab. Same after effects as last tine, feeling cold for a couple of hours in the night following.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:23 am

    Just pruned a lot of off topic rubbish from this thread.


    Regarding the posts of personal experience with the vaccines be aware that it is the internet so anyone can post anything to push an agenda.

    I am sure the makers of Pfizer would be happy to make accusations about the other vaccines and vice versa.

    There is not much you can inject into a human that is 100% safe... and people have strokes and heart attacks for all sorts of reasons... there would need to be a serious pattern before linking it to any vaccine.

    Conspiracy theories about population control make no sense, simply because if they really did want population control they would seriously want to be very careful who they eliminated from the gene pool.

    More importantly intelligence is not genetic or hereditary... smart people can have dumb kids and dumb people can have smart kids, but environment is part of it too, so dumb kids brought up by smart people might not appear as dumb as dumb kids brought up by dumb people.

    What I am saying is that the people wanting to cull the herd are mostly rich people, who are probably not amazingly smart.

    Bill Gates got rich by being a ruthless business man... from all accounts he isn't that smart... Jeff Bezos is another person who got lucky and built up a fortune simply by being ruthless and convincing most of the people who work for him to do it for minimum wage... making him even richer than he needs to be.

    India clearly needs to look at where it gets its important things from... making their own tanks or fighter planes is nice but it is not going to translate into making India more independent. Growing your own food and making your own medicine are areas they should clearly be focussing on most... and technology to improve quality of life without destroying any rainforests or ozone layers would be valuable too.
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    Post  lyle6 Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:51 am

    GarryB wrote:Isn't there a Russian saying that if there is a food shortage and a someone is handing out food then the food shortage is not that bad or something along those lines.

    Blaming India for expecting US companies to honour their contracts to sell materials to India is a bit rich, but then with bio labs all over the world I wonder why the US has been so badly caught out... isn't this something they should have been preparing for?

    US ships in their waters, and cutting off supplies of needed medicines, I can see America is going to be a real ally to India in their war on China...

    What are you talking about? The US has an export ban on vaccine components in place. Its illegal for US companies to take on contracts to deliver the required materials to India. You can't blame the US for India's predicament when they have more than enough time to prepare and remove the bottlenecks in ramping up production but they didn't. Even now they could reach out to China for help in securing the required materials but they simply won't.
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    Post  LMFS Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:00 am

    The damning evidence starts to appear showing why the West was and is hell bent on avoiding countries to use Sputnik-V and compare it with their crapcines: no way to implement their endless scam with a competitor that blows them out of the water for sure:

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    Data comes from Hungarian Ministry BTW, not from Sputnik...

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