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    Post  SolidarityWithRussia Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:44 pm

    https://www.rt.com/news/582352-germany-chancellor-scholz-fall-injuries/

    Is it just me or does this look like a ridiculous Illuminati one-eyed sign performed by this jackass actor of a chancellor?
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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:32 am

    https://www.rt.com/news/582374-okinawa-new-us-military-base/

    Okinawa forced to allow new US military runways

    A Tokyo court has ordered the prefecture to approve the new air strips despite public opposition


    Japan’s Okinawa Prefecture will have to allow new US Marine Corps air strips to be built on its main island regardless of public opposition to Washington’s increasing military presence in the region, a Tokyo court has ruled.

    The Japanese Supreme Court made its ruling against Okinawa on Monday, saying plans approved by the central government in Tokyo were valid. Construction of the new runways, which had been suspended during the legal dispute, must now be allowed to resume.

    At issue is a plan to relocate Marine Corps Air Station Futenma from an urban area of the island to reclaimed land in Henoko, on the eastern coast. The central government began doing reclamation work in 2018, but plans had to be revised after most of the site was found to be on overly soft ground. The prefectural government rejected the new plans as insufficient, reflecting concerns that the project will damage the environment.

    Okinawa Governor Denny Tamaki was re-elected last year after campaigning on a pledge to continue fighting the US military project. He has called for scrapping the plans in Henoko and immediately shutting down Air Station Futenma.

    “The ruling is extremely disappointing because we had expected a fair and neutral judgment based on respect for the local government autonomy,” Tamaki told reporters on Monday. He said he was deeply concerned by the precedent of nullifying the local government’s independent decision and disregarding its constitutional right to autonomy.

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:13 am

    @kvs

    https://nowtoronto.com/news/prisoners-want-to-extend-time-in-custody-due-to-canadas-housing-crisis-says-criminal-defence-lawyer/

    ‘Sadness and frustration’: Prisoners want to extend time in custody due to Canada’s housing crisis, says criminal defence lawyer

    A defence lawyer in Canada is sounding the alarm on the disaster that is our housing market, which she believes has gotten so bad that inmates she represents have asked to prolong their stay.


    Melanie Begalka, a criminal defence lawyer in Vancouver, took to social media to expose just how bad things are getting across the country.

    According to her, at least three of her clients would rather be locked up than deal with the rental market mess when they get out.


    “This is not a new phenomenon. It has been the case for years that some people who are homeless find a reprieve from their circumstances in jail. I first encountered it when I was a law student, while Stephen Harper was Prime Minister,” Begalka told Now Toronto in an email statement on Wednesday.

    She says the extreme housing crisis, fear of dangerous drugs on the street and general lack of resources, is why people would rather stay behind bars just a little longer.


    “I think that the housing crisis is a major problem that all levels of government need to be doing more to address. It is particularly acute in rural and remote areas of the country where local municipalities have fewer resources.”

    “My tweet was not actually trying to make a political statement. Just expressing my sadness and frustration at the difficult, and often overlooked circumstances of the people I help,” she continued.

    Conservative Party Leader Pierre Poilievre caught wind of this and said the “Trudeau housing market is literally worse than prison for many.”


    Others agreed with Begalka’s sentiments, sharing concerns of their own.

    “Welcome to Canada, where prison is the less dehumanizing option,” one X user responded.

    “Prisons are no substitute for affordable, dignified, safe, accessible housing,” another said.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:11 pm

    He makes the Germans in Allo Allo look competent...

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    Post  kvs Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:21 pm

    The whole mental competence consideration in criminal cases is absurd. The dementia case dismissal is along the same lines as used to be the case
    where driving drunk was treated by the legal system as an excuse. So if you killed other drivers or pedestrians you would get off because you were drunk. This has changed but it was a ludicrous line of reasoning. As if the consequences to the victims have no weight and only the precious mental state of the
    perpetrator matters.

    If a retard kills someone, then it is still murder and the retard needs to be punished. It does not matter whether they understand or not what they did. The
    victim merits justice automatically no matter what mental state the perp was in at the time of the crime. "Innocent by reason of insanity" is a grotesque oxymoron. Innocence means absence of crime. Insanity (and dementia, retardation, bad day, etc.) does not magically delete crimes (while leaving
    victims in its wake). This "concept" is logically equivalent to the statement that the insane cannot commit crimes no matter what they do. Again, why
    is the mental state of some criminal freak of such prime importance? Justice must consider the case of the victim(s) and not just the perpetrator(s).

    This BS comes from the same justice systems that enable "me too" and divorce rape of men leading to their suicide.

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:44 pm

    'Mohamed'
    'Mohamed'
    'Mohamed'
    'Mohamed'

    Is the guy filming planning to convert to Islam or something?

    As for the defense of the home, a truly pathetic effort

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    Post  kvs Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:15 am



    The origin of the rot in the western left.
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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:52 am

    kvs wrote:The whole mental competence consideration in criminal cases is absurd.    The dementia case dismissal is along the same lines as used to be the case
    where driving drunk was treated by the legal system as an excuse. (.......) 

    The things here is that our ex-Cardinal is not mentally incompetent. He was fully healthy at the time he committed these horrendous crimes, and he is fully aware of what he did. He even has enough cognitive competency to purposefuly deny his responsibility as in a court hearing before that "dementia" craps happened.

    But somehow the ones in power exploit the legal loopholes and fabricate some sorts of mental issues for this disgusting criminal to escape punishment.

    And the worse thing is that people in power, in the Vatican and in USA, deliberately cover up his crimes for decades and even promoted that beast into high positions before some people decided that enough us enough and made some serious retaliation these beasts.

    No, our ex-Cardinal is not mentally incompetent. But he is morally incompetent, and the most suitable medical treatment should be gulliotine, not only our ex-Cardinal, but every insolent filthy pieces of garbages inside the Vatican and other garbages who have been associated with their crimes against humanity.

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    Post  kvs Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:55 am

    The attack on the foundations of the west started with the child-centered learning and criminal reform of the 1960s.    So we had the dumbing down of
    education which reduced critical thinking capacity and we had the ludicrous removal of criminal punishment for "minors" (i.e. teenagers and younger).  A
    sociopath nihilist can commit murder and not even be sent to reform school.   An example is the two car-jacking teenage twats that killed the
    uber driver not so long ago; they got no punishment.   Their parents did not get any punishment as well.    

    There is now a pool of degenerates in society who do not know their place and are likely contributing to the pathological social media phenomenon we
    have seen over the last 20 years.   Peterson's video is very relevant even if some of his opinions are ideological and not objective.   The sociopath
    parasites are a serious problem for society.   Society functions through unequal influence of individuals.   Sociopaths penetrating into decision making
    positions can steer society off the rails.   But we have seen the succoring of sociopaths by the system in the last few decades.  

    I have seen with my own eyes a certain type of personality that is clearly delinquent at a young age.   These freaks are for some reason treated like
    princes by the system as if society can't exist without them.   They need to be slapped down.   Even if they never leave the prison system, then f*ck'em.
    The idea that they can be fixed by kid glove treatment is patent nonsense.   What happens is that they learn how to hide their deviancy better and
    channel it in a way that avoids criminal sanction.    These sociopaths are not an asset for society.

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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:03 am

    https://www.rt.com/news/582548-belgium-euthanasia-pillow-suffocation/

    Doctor ‘euthanizes’ woman with pillow in EU state – media

    A terminally ill Belgian woman was ‘euthanized’ by suffocation with a pillow by a doctor after lethal drugs she requested to be administered to her to voluntarily end her life proved to be insufficient, according to reports by Belgian media.


    Local media outlets Sud Info and RTL reported on Wednesday that a 36-year-old woman from the Oupeye municipality in Liege opted to undergo euthanasia in March 2022, just months after being diagnosed with terminal cancer and after her condition had severely deteriorated.

    The process – which is legal in Belgium – involved a doctor and two nurses visiting the home that the woman shared with her husband and young daughter to oversee the procedure. The woman’s family members left the home as they did not wish to witness the death of their loved one.

    However, according to Sud Info, the process did not go as planned. When the cocktail of drugs failed to have the desired effect, the doctor allegedly used a pillow to suffocate the woman to end her life. A post mortem examination showed signs of suffocation, 7sur7 reported.

    “What happened is not euthanasia,” Belgian politician and doctor Jacques Brotchi said to RTL Info. “Such a definition of this terrible situation devalues the gesture of euthanasia, which accompanies a person to the end without pain.”
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    Post  SolidarityWithRussia Sun Sep 10, 2023 4:32 pm

    The woke state of California is becoming a dystopian nightmare. Just wait and see what the next generation will be like.
    https://www.rt.com/news/582614-california-trans-children-law/

    It kind of reminds me of children denouncing their own parents during the Mao period in China.

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    Post  nomadski Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:25 pm

    KVS wrote " These sociopaths are not an asset for society. " And Solidarity With Russia wrote " It kind of reminds me of children denouncing their own parents during the Mao period in China. " And higura wrote " the doctor allegedly used a pillow to suffocate the woman to end her life. A post mortem examination showed signs of suffocation . " And FP wrote " As for the defense of the home, a truly pathetic effort . "

    The core traditional extended family is a thing of the past . There is a lot of Labour of love in such communities . In our materialistic age , this is intolerable . Such relations are an obstacle to exploiting the individual , in an employment industrial / economic structure . But then , who looks after the children ? Who cooks or cleans ? Who spends time with them , or entertains them ? The Mum and Dad are both at work , or divorced . Grand-parents are either disinterested or in a Nursing home . And Aunts and Uncles are nowhere to be seen !

    These children learn crime and anti-social behaviour from an early age . They are fed a diet of hate and racism . Children in divorce or bad marriage  cases , then turn  against their parents , who through neglect or poverty failed them . The culture of the family is in decline . Language , communication , affection , social skills are to a great extent learnt by children , when they grow up. Without an example , they are lost .

    A society that can not look after the vulnerable , the young or old , has no future . Such materialistic society , only values the economically productive . But what to do , if the young are so mentally damaged and disorganised , that they can not even hold down a job or a relationship ? Then the economy fails , and you have to import fresh blood , to do the work and produce the children . Those foreigners still have some spunk  ( umph ) left , compared to your own mentally ill , drug addicted , lazy and thieving , disordered and alcoholic workforce . But they soon succumb to the new environment , and adopt local habits !
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    Post  flamming_python Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:14 pm

    nomadski can you stop pretending that you're publishing chapters of a novel under a pen-name and quote/respond to people the same standard way that everyone else does?
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    Post  GarryB Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:08 am

    “What happened is not euthanasia,” Belgian politician and doctor Jacques Brotchi said to RTL Info. “Such a definition of this terrible situation devalues the gesture of euthanasia, which accompanies a person to the end without pain.”

    What happened was exactly euthanasia... she wasn't changing her mind, she wasn't suddenly getting better.... the method used to try to end her life was not working... it might have worked but equally might have taken days to work with her suffering... suffocation is how lots of people die all the time and is probably not the most fun way to go but it takes minutes rather than hours.

    The woman and the whole family clearly supported this decision so no one can complain that it ended up requiring extra measures for it to happen.
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    Post  kvs Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:50 pm

    I recall fuss in Kanada in the late 80s and early 90s about euthenasia. How supposedly unreasonable the laws were with "assisted suicide". Well, 30 years
    later and do-gooder legal revision has turned Kanada into a criminal joke. People are advised to end themselves if they don't get a chair lift installed
    in their house after waiting for too long. If you are having a bad day, well then, just end it all.

    Kanada should a warning about the stark reality of legalized early termination. It is not just a matter of morality and individual choice, it is a
    matter of the system and the sociopaths that infest it. We have now what amounts to murder by state in Kanada. Sociopath government
    workers preying on the vulnerable to prompt them to choose state administered suicide.
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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:01 pm

    kvs wrote:I recall fuss in Kanada in the late 80s and early 90s about euthenasia. How supposedly unreasonable the laws were with "assisted suicide". Well, 30 years
    later and do-gooder legal revision has turned Kanada into a criminal joke. People are advised to end themselves if they don't get a chair lift installed
    in their house after waiting for too long. If you are having a bad day, well then, just end it all.

    Kanada should a warning about the stark reality of legalized early termination. It is not just a matter of morality and individual choice, it is a
    matter of the system and the sociopaths that infest it. We have now what amounts to murder by state in Kanada. Sociopath government
    workers preying on the vulnerable to prompt them to choose state administered suicide.

    Do you mean these cases ?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/11/canada-cases-right-to-die-laws

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    Are Canadians being driven to assisted suicide by poverty or healthcare crisis?

    Critics argue laws are being misused to punish the poor but experts say cases represent country’s failure to care for its most vulnerable citizens

    Leyland Cecco in Toronto

    After pleading unsuccessfully for affordable housing to help ease her chronic health condition, a Canadian woman ended her life in February under the country’s assisted-suicide laws. Another woman, suffering from the same condition and also living on disability payments, has nearly reached final approval to end her life.

    In February, a 51-year-old Ontario woman known as Sophia was granted physician-assisted death after her chronic condition became intolerable and her meagre disability stipend left her little to survive on, according to CTV News.

    “The government sees me as expendable trash, a complainer, useless and a pain in the ass,” she said in a video obtained by the network. For two years, she and friends had pleaded without success for better living conditions, she said.

    Now a second case has emerged with several parallels: another woman, known as Denise, has also applied to end her life after being unable to find suitable housing and struggling to survive on disability payments.
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    Post  nomadski Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:31 pm

    flamming_python wrote:nomadski can you stop pretending that you're publishing chapters of a novel under a pen-name and quote/respond to people the same standard way that everyone else does?


    @ FP

    I will try , if you like . But I have never been able on this forum , to put people's quotes in blue squares or post video links or pictures  , that you can click on . I have just been able to provide links , and addresses . I also can not use the smilies , to express my feelings . Smilies panel does not work for me . I have no Twitter account , so I can not open many links to Twitter . So I will use the @ sign to reply individually , so it does not get confusing ! Also s a rule , I do not reply to private mail , if it is necessary to ensure that the public know about something . I can not rely on any poster here , to be a vehicle or messenger . So unfortunately some ideas that best remain private , are made in public . Because the advantages of a public post , outweigh the advantages of a private mail , to unknown source .

    Question : Does the quote above , appear in blue square ?.I used the quote button , at the bottom of your post ?
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    Post  kvs Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:21 pm



    The progression to totalitarianism is readily apparent. Eventually the alternative streaming platforms will be closed down by government
    action (legislative and enforcement). We'll have YouCrap designated as the only acceptable streaming platform because it supposedly
    does not spread "misinformation". Kanada is already at the stage where full censorship is a Turdope decision away.

    What is sad is how brainwashed the western masses are. They have been weened from birth on the BS about how they live in democracies
    with "independent media" and "checks and balances" on government power. In reality, they live in oligarch toilets with their precious
    standard of living nothing more than trickle down from global rape by their oligarch overlords. Now as the get reamed they engage
    in Ukr style inadequacy projection where supposedly bastions of freedom like Russia are "tyrannies". FOAD.

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    Post  AlfaT8 Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:30 am

    higurashihougi wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    higurashihougi wrote:So exploitation, bloodsucking, invading, robbing, killing, murdering are simply acceptable competitions and struggle against such crimes are rejecting reality ?

    Gangsters and street thugs look more like human than you.

    You wanna go against natural selection, then go ahead socialist, do stupid sh%t, win stupid prizes.
    Competition is the reality of life no matter how you wanna define it

    So scamming, murders, stealing, robbing, bullying... are not crimes but fair competition and ultimate sign of wisdom and they should be legalized and should be encouraged in schools and education programs ?

    I don't know whether your mother and father are wondering why all of the time, labour and money giving birth to you and raise you up end up creating a monster.


    Doesn't matter how YOU define it be it "scamming, murders, stealing, robbing, bullying" can be easily redefined into positives, so Yes it all fair game.
    And its already being thought in schools, its called Darwinism or natural selection, or sometimes Machiavelli's "The Prince".

    Children are a long term investment strategy for their retirement, high risk of course, sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

    AlfaT8 wrote:Its all about benefits at the end of the day, take the Colonial era or America's Manifest Destiny, at the end of the day, the ones who define what is "right" are in large part, the victors.

    It's not immoral, their simply is no moral to begin with.

    Hope that your old man and old woman doesn't get kicked out of the house when they no longer bring any benefit to you. Although I'm not surprise if it happen, as some of your precious capitalist people even claimed that covid-19 was a good thing because it killed of senile "useless" people.

    I legit told them if they become a burden i would throw them of a cliff, No Joke.

    Wouldn't socialist want that more, since these old folks don't produce anything anymore and are just a drain to the party.
    And the West's welfare state would also want this, which is also a socialist issue, since social democracy promotes the expansion of the welfare state is a socialist ideal in itself.
    Since social democracy is the idea of transitioning capitalism into socialism through an ever expanding welfare state.

    Capitalists would try to make money from these old people, unless these old people are more of a personal burden to them.

    AlfaT8 wrote:Why thank you, that means i am more likely to win against them.

    I am very curious to see how are you going to win under a society when all sorts of henious crimes and dirty tricks are legalized and endorse as "competition", like what you have been doing.

    For starters i won't be limited by "Moral" delusions and do what must be done.

    AlfaT8 wrote:The communist certainly think so, the hell do you think communists do when they come to power.

    The communist come to power because they are sick of your self-proclaimed "talents" who actually getting rich not by talents but appropriate unpaid labour from workers and control all of the political and economic privileges in the society, which is the complete anti-thesis of the so-called "fair competition" that the hypocrite capitalism always proclaim.

    Yeah, fair competition my a**. See how your precious capitalist empires "compete" in this world.

    Such is the ideology of losers, what "unpaid" labour, what the hell makes you thinks you're entitled to such nonsense.
    Again with this "political and economics privileges", monopolies cannot exist without government approval, your issue is not with the "Rich", but the government.

    Of course, everything to maintain the empire, rule for me, but not for thee.
    And such is life, you wanna change it, burn it, but no need to go full retard with socialist BS.

    AlfaT8 wrote:And all i am saying is that all that can be justified so long as you have good PR management, America is a great example of this.

    Yeah, damn the USA commie how dare they committed henious crimes and whitewashing their doing with PR management... wait, USA is the purest and biggest example of a capitalist regime in the world.

    And are you going to be the second replication of the USA, seems like you endorse whatever crimes the USA did ?

    National interest will always triumph over capitalist ideals.
    But countries that do embrace capitalism will win more than they would ever with socialist retardation.

    Crimes today, justice tomorrow, that how it actually works.

    AlfaT8 wrote:That's always the narrative isn't it, the evil rich who ""stole from us"", the things that were either never yours to begin with or you did nothing with it.

    Sure, your moneybags getting bigger and bigger and it is all your doing and the workers and employees in the factories and tenants peasant on the farms just went there and did nothing.

    After 40 years the productivity in USA get double but the real salary are just stagnated... sure, everything was the labour of talented company owners, they did everything and thousands of employees did almost nothing... while bother hiring workers ?

    How about telling that to the immigrants workers and 3rd world workers in sweatshops to see if you get a punch in your face ? But of course you won't, hiding behind the computer and in comfy house and cowardly blabbering nonsense is your specialization.

    Their belief that all the companies profit is "theirs" is a completely false delusion.
    No company, no work, then you really have no money, then what?

    Ohh, well this is a funny one.
    It all thanks to "women's rights", women entered the work force and doubled supply/productivity, but demand didn't change, creating the current situation.
    So this one is completely on the socialist ideal of equality, not the companies, they didn't want this.

    There own fault for tolerating these sweatshops, if they really hate is then burn it down.

    AlfaT8 wrote:And as soon as someone succeeds, you people become envious

    Envious ?

    Sure.

    Succeed by being born in to well-off, well-connected parents and proceeding their career using parents money or connection, is worthy to be envious.

    Succeed by using authority and power to expropriate land, forest and house from the people is worthy to be envious.

    Succeed by appropriate unpaid labour from sweatshop slave workers or land rent and forced labour from tenants farmer is worthy to be envious.

    Succeed by bribing traitors and compradors in, or by military intervention, by sanction, by pressure to, 3rd world countries, forcing them to accept harsh conditions to bloodsuck money and labour from them, is worthy to be envious.

    Succeed by invade other countries, taken land from them, or enslaved the whole nation, is worthy to be envious.

    Why should we be envious towards animals ?

    Here's the socialist poison, Life isn't Fair, it never was and never will be.
    We all play with the hand we are dealt with.

    That's the best we can do, revolution is fair game, the world isn't fair so you don't have to play fair either.

    But socialist revolutions are non-starters, its will end with a complete self-own.

    AlfaT8 wrote:Tell me, what happened to that African country that kicked out its evil white farmers, ohh yea, that country starved.

    Have the majority people in that country been wealthy, prosperous, and happy under the generous rule of white elites ?

    Are these white elites are seen as the champion of your precious capitalist idea ? Your precious capitalist protegee should have brought enlightenment to the non-whitde people under their rule as you people always claim, haven't they ?

    And wait, since when you people care about the well-being of others ? It is completely alien to your ultimate virtue of "competition", isn't it ?

    Did they starve after they kicked out withey or not, if they were competent they wouldn't nned the white elite to begin with.

    Because Africans be African bro.
    Teach them how to fish, and they throw the rod in the water.

    You forget, competition and profit, socialism is very wasteful when it comes to human resources.

    AlfaT8 wrote:What happened in Venezuela after the socialist burned all their money in socialist programs, Venezuela starved.

    What happened in Venezuela is that before the revolution, the capitalist championed landlords keep their land completely idle and do nothing beneficial, that agriculture under precious capitalist rule was degenerated into a pathetic state due to reliance on oil revenue, and when the socialist come into power they use socialist money to rennovate agriculture which significantly increase agriculture output, especially in husbandry, and redistribute the land to the farmers who have real intention to do something with it.

    What happened in Venezuela is that the landlord, became envious with peasants succeed in cultivating the land that the landlords kept idle, began to mobilize thugs, gangsters and hitmen to murder and terrorize the peasants to steal the land that the landlords never deserve to have done nothing with it.

    And yet after all that they still starved.

    If true, then these "Land lords" were goddamn idiots, where is the profit in idling?
    And WTF was the Venezuelan authorities doing, letting these fools F around so much?

    AlfaT8 wrote:What happened in Mao's China, ohh yea, they starved to the point of eating their newborns at one point.

    What happened in Mao's China was that they had a stable economic recovery from 1949 to 1959, and after damages due to the horrendous errors in GLF, continued to implemented major campaigns to develop industry and infrastructure nationalwide, and regardless of the GLF, cultural revolution and political affairs, enjoyed a signifant economic growth and laid the foundation for later development after the 1979 reforms.

    What happened in China today is, regardless of the market-oriented reforms, that they retain a large state-controlled economy with restricts the pervasive effects of market economy, and the biggest economic problem came from private sector with capitalistic roots and had nothing to do with communistic idea.

    Bhahahaha.  Laughing  Laughing

    AlfaT8 wrote:So tell me again about hardship, tell me again about the victimized workers.

    Hardship and victimized workers happened everywhere, even mentioned in capitalist newspapers and then we have a self-proclaimed "not degenerated" person who are blind and deaf to them.

    How about opening your eyes a bit and look at how sweatshop workers, corporate slaves are facing, or native communities who are losing lands, homes, and forests to "investors". Sure, probably these are great projects of Western capitalist to build socialism, except that they are not.

    But again it is all about welfare, not about your self-proclaimed "talents"'s vocarious demand of profit. You neo-fascist are just that predictable.

    Hardships a part of life, not matter what you believe.

    Are you describing investors or "The Party", getting real hard to tell.  Smile

    AlfaT8 wrote:ask the Cubans in Florida they will tell you exactly where to shove your socialism.

    Ah, I got it now. The USA bootlickers in Miami. So authoritative. Just like asking VOA, RFI, RFA, BBC about Russia and China. Or asking the three-strips traitors about Vietnam.

    So that is where you get information from and who you are associated with. Dogs usually packed together, don't they ?

    It is interesting to see that the USA lapdogs have the honor to provide consent to the self-proclaimed only "not degenrated" human remaining in the West.

    How about asking these traitors the method to do pull-ups on helicopter skids, it may help to increase your competitiveness.

    So the people who actually experienced the socialist utopia shouldn't be looked upon at all, right?
    These people will attest to the otter failure of the socialist utopian ideal.

    Even the Chinese dumped that nonsense long ago to peruse a more workable fascist economic model, because their earlier attempts failed so catastrophically and got millions killed.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:44 am

    https://www.rt.com/news/583075-us-boebert-groping-video/

    Footage of her ejection also appears to show her displaying a middle finger to theater staff, while she also allegedly asked security, “Do you know who I am?

    "do you know who I am"

    So that is USA democracy. "do you know who I am"

    Excellent.

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    Post  Firebird Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:51 pm

    kvs wrote:

    The progression to totalitarianism is readily apparent.   Eventually the alternative streaming platforms will be closed down by government
    action (legislative and enforcement).   We'll have YouCrap designated as the only acceptable streaming platform because it supposedly
    does not spread "misinformation".   Kanada is already at the stage where full censorship is a Turdope decision away.  

    What is sad is how brainwashed the western masses are.  They have been weened from birth on the BS about how they live in democracies
    with "independent media" and "checks and balances" on government power.   In reality, they live in oligarch toilets with their precious
    standard of living nothing more than trickle down from global rape by their oligarch overlords.   Now as the get reamed they engage
    in Ukr style inadequacy projection where supposedly bastions of freedom like Russia are "tyrannies".   FOAD.


    Dr Berg strikes me as one of the very VERY best remaining websites on YT.
    So it comes as no surprise to me whatsoever that the ultra-vermin will decide to censor and gag him.

    **** America, **** Silicon Valley. **** them sideways. With a rusty pitchfork.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:38 am

    @ FP

    I will try , if you like . But I have never been able on this forum , to put people's quotes in blue squares or post video links or pictures , that you can click on . I have just been able to provide links , and addresses . I also can not use the smilies , to express my feelings . Smilies panel does not work for me . I have no Twitter account , so I can not open many links to Twitter . So I will use the @ sign to reply individually , so it does not get confusing ! Also s a rule , I do not reply to private mail , if it is necessary to ensure that the public know about something . I can not rely on any poster here , to be a vehicle or messenger . So unfortunately some ideas that best remain private , are made in public . Because the advantages of a public post , outweigh the advantages of a private mail , to unknown source .

    Question : Does the quote above , appear in blue square ?.I used the quote button , at the bottom of your post ?

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    Hey dude. When you quote someone and put in your reply before you click send try the preview button to check it is right. I suspect your problem is that you have html disabled, so before you click send look above the preview and send buttons... there is an area between where you type your message and the send and preview buttons where you will see a section called Options with a group of options called Post Options and a list of check boxes. These options include disabling html and BBCode and smilies and to be notified when a reply is posted to the thread. I rather suspect when you look the Disable HTML in this post box is ticked. Click on it to uncheck it and then click on send.
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:52 am

    Very Happy

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    Post  GarryB Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:16 pm

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    Post  kvs Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:35 pm



    This cringe BS begs the question as to what is the agenda. I think it is to create a backlash. All the "tollerasty" in the west is a fraud.
    Ultimately the elites want a fascist, totalitarian society. All the precious minorities (trannies, blacks, etc.) will be the first to the ovens
    once the new order is established.


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